Engine swap with K20z3.
11-20-2007, 09:46 PM
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Engine swap with K20z3.
Kinda new at this but I have roughly 185k on my 88 Honda Civic and finally decided hey my old car needs a new makeover to keep up going up the hills with my new cars. So wondering where could I find info how much and OEM version of the K20z3 engine and possibly a new tranny would cost and if it would fit in my 88 Civic? Really need some help.
11-20-2007, 10:26 PM
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It will cost more than its worth IMO. Don't forget about engine mounts, new axles, wiring harness, ECU, sensors, etc.
For a low mileage K20-anything, along with transmission and assorted parts, I would expect a budget of anywhere from $5000-7000. I'm not an expert on this but K-series engines are expensive, period. It may even cost more and probably will.
Here's a few forums where you will find a lot more information...
www.k-series.com
www.hondatech.com
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For a low mileage K20-anything, along with transmission and assorted parts, I would expect a budget of anywhere from $5000-7000. I'm not an expert on this but K-series engines are expensive, period. It may even cost more and probably will.
Here's a few forums where you will find a lot more information...
www.k-series.com
www.hondatech.com
www.
11-20-2007, 11:20 PM
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You'd be better off with a B series motor 
Plus with a K series, you'll need a special Hasport kit for engine mounts on a Civic.
Plus with a K series, you'll need a special Hasport kit for engine mounts on a Civic.
11-21-2007, 08:13 AM
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appriciate it guys I don't know I really want to have a hmm you changed everything under that hood to like new century stuff instead of hey still living in the past but ole well we have to weigh the options but thanks once again.
11-21-2007, 09:16 AM
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You could do a B16 or B18 swap for a lot cheaper than a K series, and still have a really quick car with an improved transmission.
http://www.hmotorsonline.com
http://www.hmotorsonline.com
11-21-2007, 12:46 PM
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just put a b18b 89-93 integra ls motor. you you may have to bar it but you wont change the OBD-0 so there will be no additional harnesses or V-TEC to wire. also i would change the knuckles (hubs) and axels ecu and wiring harness. b18b's are cheap.
11-22-2007, 10:43 AM
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so what if I really don't want used parts I am really trying to get my wife to back me on this and it needs to be brand new, like does honda or acura make crate engines at all that have never been started?
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11-22-2007, 10:56 AM
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just buy a new car. I mean really.
11-22-2007, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Southerngravy
so what if I really don't want used parts I am really trying to get my wife to back me on this and it needs to be brand new, like does honda or acura make crate engines at all that have never been started?
Used engine for cheap, or new/newer used car. That's pretty much what you're lookin' at.
11-22-2007, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mrproul
just put a b18b 89-93 integra ls motor. you you may have to bar it but you wont change the OBD-0 so there will be no additional harnesses or V-TEC to wire. also i would change the knuckles (hubs) and axels ecu and wiring harness. b18b's are cheap.
11-23-2007, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LotusTracker
its almost a 20 yr old car 
11-23-2007, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Southerngravy
yeah but I know people with brand new 08 that condition still doesn't fair to mine so... new car, more payment on top of the TL and MDX that I already have come on. Beside I have 5k to do whatever with and right now my civic needs some TLC.
Oh and not your parents cars
11-23-2007, 04:00 PM
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hmm bullshit card huh
well just so you know heres some of the TL I don't have any of the MDX yet still got paper tags but will post soon enjoy, heck I know my kids do 
11-23-2007, 04:29 PM
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so then why dump 5k into a beater civic?
11-23-2007, 09:59 PM
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Idk I guess parting ways with it means letting something near to me go plus how often do you see 20 year old cars that still run great and are not someones muscle car
11-23-2007, 10:08 PM
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Do me a favor. Put the 5k in an envelope and send it to me. I will use it for something much better.
11-23-2007, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 1killercls
Pics of TL and MDX or
Oh and not your parents cars
Oh and not your parents cars
and an engine swap sounds fun. i say go for it
11-23-2007, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TommySalami
people are so doubtful these days..
and an engine swap sounds fun. i say go for it
and an engine swap sounds fun. i say go for it
11-23-2007, 10:56 PM
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k20a.org is a really good place to research too. I had a plan for a k20a2 swap into an EK in my head for a long while, but I decided to stop because of theft risk, money issues and the fact that I can't find a good EK in good condition .. Good luck with your project though.
11-23-2007, 11:47 PM
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I just think EFs are ugly. 
But its your car, it seems like you know how to make money so hey why not spend it for something that makes you happy? I agree though, a B-series would be a better choice than a K. You'd be one of the few with a K swap in their EF, but that's like putting an LS1 in a Cavalier, no offense. Why?
I would just buy a rolling EG or DC/DB shell and just put a B20 in it. Better garage it either way though.
But its your car, it seems like you know how to make money so hey why not spend it for something that makes you happy? I agree though, a B-series would be a better choice than a K. You'd be one of the few with a K swap in their EF, but that's like putting an LS1 in a Cavalier, no offense. Why?I would just buy a rolling EG or DC/DB shell and just put a B20 in it. Better garage it either way though.
11-24-2007, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Southerngravy
its funny that you know I been in the Navy for almost 8 years here soon, me and my wife and ppl still don't believe what I have to show for myself but to each his own so yeah I think I might take up that swap, I mean I really don't know anything about it plus I just finished getting my AA in General Studies which aint much but I did it without any money out of my pocket.
11-24-2007, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Southerngravy
its funny that you know I been in the Navy for almost 8 years here soon, me and my wife and ppl still don't believe what I have to show for myself but to each his own so yeah I think I might take up that swap, I mean I really don't know anything about it plus I just finished getting my AA in General Studies which aint much but I did it without any money out of my pocket.
K-series is much more involved, the car would be faster, but you pay for the privledge.
11-24-2007, 03:41 PM
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