i hope this is not a repost but here

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...3&page=1&pp=20


dude i thought myself was DIY kings until HIM! MAD PROPS and he lives like 5 mins away from me

Check out the DIY stuff he has done to his car besides the motor swap.... like DIY SC and etc.. all in the link under his sig.


WILL (pimpwhiteCLS) do u know him personallY????

 

Yea thats a lotta stuff. Give him props for that. After being around that kinda stuff, doing DIY isnt really that challenging. a lot of trial and error though. But i dont think i would attempt to do what he's doing, thats nuts!

 

quite a few of the second gen guys have diy'ed the SC, not to mention all that scalbert and allmotor have done

 

It'd be more pimp if he had to do some fabrication, etc. But that's just gonna be a straight drop in. still sweet though

 

he might have to in order to get the rear M3 suspension in. shit is awesome though... its gonna be a badass sleeper.

 

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true. but if u acutally read the whole 17 pages u would find out he is not like allmotor. he does not have much mechancial knowledge and expereinces. he is good with computers and that is all he is good at =)

 

well these guys ahd to start somewhere
theyve just been doing it longer

 

allmotor>*

 

Yes, but they never attempted motor swaps like this, not to mention the diff, tranny, and all the other stuff. Not saying what all-motor and scalabert have done is insignificant, but doing a swap like this is a whole 'nother level.

 

do you know about allmotor's previous projects, i think you ned to read up

 

I know about his projects. About the turbo NSX and the all-motor 12 sec Civic. But this is something bigger still, just because I don't think anyones ever done it. Not to mention the amount of electronics on these newer Ms. Like I said, what all-motor has done is incredible, but this kid has know engineering degree and is doing it in his garage.

 

what that guy doing isn't all that incredible. There is no fabrication, etc. It's all plug and play, it is just gonna take time



allmotors all motor civic was back in the day, when parts weren't available and you guys outside of southern california had no clue what a fixed up honda was. There was a lot of fabrication going on during those days to get the extra edge. It was all unkown.

 

you almost feel guilty knowing how easy most of it actually is huh? It's just like a big puzzle. For me it's just a matter at how valuable my time is, right now I'd much rather pay some work to do it for me, esp. on these stupid imports, give me a good v8 w/ a steel body and i'll cut away

 

and don't get me wrong, what this guy is doing isn't easy, and will take some serious brains and a lot of free time. But when you really look at some of the shit people do in the garage ( I know I've seen a TON of crazy garage projects ) it really isn't that much. This is like swapping full ITR gear into a hatch w/ a few more things to plug in

 

here is his site

http://e46.mit.edu/

 

What about mounting the diff? Never designed for on a 323 and the M3 diff is bigger. SUspension is entirely different on an M3 and he's gonna swap in the rear suspension it looks like. M cars and their regular counter-parts share less than you may think.

 

going through his shit, the kid is a total brainiac, he gets very technical for very simplistic things

I mean look at the detail this kid goes in to just explaining a steering wheel. I dont' wanna know how it works, I just wanna bolt the fuckin thing on

 

I'm know they share less, but those things probably bolt right on. I don't see him doing any cutting, fabricating. They are still on the same platform. It's like swapping shit from the integra ITR into a 93 hatch. They are the same platform, it all bolts right up.


and as I said, props to this dude, but he ain't the Lord, he's a tech head who writes well

I mean, he's an MIT grad, you shouldn't expect less

 

Not really the same platform. M cars really don't share that much at all witht he regular versions. Suspension is entirely different and wider, so the M3 has wider fenders. Motors are nothing alike really. Tranmission is entirely different SMG vs. auto.

You can liken it to the ITR into a 93 hatch, but its still more difficult than you would think. M3s are designed from the ground up differently. Having spent lots of time in the BMW CCA, and getting to go to BMW NA and talk to the product managers, you get to see the differences. THe M guys barely consider them to be the same cars.

And I know people who are book smart, but couldn't fucking screw in a light bulb.

 

Okay, so then what's different, does he have to fabricate parts to install the rear suspension? Custom motor mounts, etc. I went through a good amount of the thread, didn't see any of that.

 

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yah the rear suspension might require fabricate parts since M3's rear fender is significantly wider and he is not going with widebody.

 

It's a pretty hefty job that guy is taking on...

Oh yeah, dropping a B18C or B16A in a HB (after the first one)... takes only 3 hours However the first one was a surreal experience. We took the D16A motor out and just started putting one thing in at a time.... and voila EVERYTHING bolted on! The only thing that needed to be wired as the knock sensor and the EVAP purge wire - I still remember the ECU pin (A23 and A6 or something)!

The time-consuming part on that civic was building the motor to make a lot of power and changing the entire interior to the Integra GSR (dashboard and console)

 

DOnt worry all-motor, we all still to you and scalabert here at A-CL as do-it yourself gods. But I'm just partial to BMWs so thats why I like this project that much.

 

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his name is Scalbert.... scalabert sounds like one of the casino in Vegas...

 

man, the gallery on that forum is more active than the lounge over here.