civicdrivr's Z3 thread

Lack of sleep + stress = irritable Morgan
Also, some of you now how anal I am about keeping the car clean. I've been so busy I haven't had the time to wash the car for the past two weeks. I typically wash it twice a week
Last edited by civicdrivr; Aug 29, 2012 at 01:05 PM.
damn twice a week?? thats intense haha... i do it like twice a month if i can. Then again im at college so i can only do it so often when i go home and only if there's time for me to do it when i go home haha
I'd usually do a maintenance wash on Wednesday and a full fledged wash on the weekend. The car is an absolute mess. Its depressing.
I don't knock any one for their religion, but the alcoholic thing eh that's more along the lines of not having self control. If you don't know when to say when you shouldn't drink...and saying "I've had enough" right before you pass out is not self control
Uhhh, you might want to read up on genetic predisposition to addiction.
I have medical reasons and...
This. My father is an alcoholic (recovering, been clean for a few years), his father was an alcoholic, my brother is following their footsteps 
I'd rather not venture down that path. Plus I just never felt the need to drink. I feel the same way about drugs. I've never smoked pot nor have I ever had the desire. Im probably the only one in my family thats never done it.
Im what you kids call a "square"
Too much, not enough time

As Tim said:
FTFY

I'd rather not venture down that path. Plus I just never felt the need to drink. I feel the same way about drugs. I've never smoked pot nor have I ever had the desire. Im probably the only one in my family thats never done it.

Im what you kids call a "square"

FTFY
Last edited by civicdrivr; Aug 29, 2012 at 06:58 PM.
my dad, grandfather on both sides are alcoholics, i am not. I always have tons of alcohol in my house, and i drink maybe twice a month, and have maybe 3-4 beers when i do drink
To me hearing "my dad is alcoholic so im going to become one" is like if you said "my dad was a pedofile so im a pedofile"
If you really you can't control yourself don't do it
Last edited by dreem1er; Aug 29, 2012 at 09:38 PM.
my dad, grandfather on both sides are alcoholics, i am not. I always have tons of alcohol in my house, and i drink maybe twice a month, and have maybe 3-4 beers when i do drink
To me hearing "my dad is alcoholic so im going to become one" is like if you said "my dad was a pedofile so im a pedofile"
If you really you can't control yourself don't do it
To me hearing "my dad is alcoholic so im going to become one" is like if you said "my dad was a pedofile so im a pedofile"
If you really you can't control yourself don't do it

So no one is at fault for their own actions? I'm not saying disposition to any addiction doesn't exist. But its a choice above everything else, like i said "im an alcoholic because my father was" is an excuse, your father didn't pour drinks down your throat, that was your decision.
Sorry about the small thread hijacking Morgan, but lets be honest this is a rambling build thread
Last edited by dreem1er; Aug 30, 2012 at 08:20 AM.
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Does anyone think anyone wakes up one day and decides to be an alcoholic? It creeps up on you. Drink a few times a month, hits stressfull time in life, bam, every weekend...feels good to have a light buzz...then you have it every day. Then you need it.
Drinking often, and binge drinking are 2 different things but technically, both are alcoholics. I've had some scary incidents when drinking, but I'm aware and a work in progress so I keep getting more mature about it.
Nobody is immune but I do believe that there are genetic predisposition but more than that, I think it has to do with being exposed to it at an early age. You're around people that overdo everything, it'll rub off on you. If you think you're untouchable and it's never going to affect you, you're already on the wrong path.
I honestly wish I didn't drink...but I simply enjoy the buzz at tailgtes, and house parties etc too much. I gave it up for a few months a few years back and it felt great...felt good at myself and it was awesome to know that I could drive anywhere, anytime with anyone...safely.
Drinking often, and binge drinking are 2 different things but technically, both are alcoholics. I've had some scary incidents when drinking, but I'm aware and a work in progress so I keep getting more mature about it.
Nobody is immune but I do believe that there are genetic predisposition but more than that, I think it has to do with being exposed to it at an early age. You're around people that overdo everything, it'll rub off on you. If you think you're untouchable and it's never going to affect you, you're already on the wrong path.
I honestly wish I didn't drink...but I simply enjoy the buzz at tailgtes, and house parties etc too much. I gave it up for a few months a few years back and it felt great...felt good at myself and it was awesome to know that I could drive anywhere, anytime with anyone...safely.
So no one is at fault for their own actions? I'm not saying disposition to any addiction doesn't exist. But its a choice above everything else, like i said "im an alcoholic because my father was" is an excuse, your father didn't pour drinks down your throat, that was your decision.
Nevertheless, you are setting up a false dichotomy. I never said a predisposition removes personal responsibility. Apparently, you are taking a binary approach on this topic; life is more nuance that than, I'm afraid.
To clarify the record, with how you've stated this - I am not an alcoholic.
Nevertheless, you are setting up a false dichotomy. I never said a predisposition removes personal responsibility. Apparently, you are taking a binary approach on this topic; life is more nuance that than, I'm afraid.
Nevertheless, you are setting up a false dichotomy. I never said a predisposition removes personal responsibility. Apparently, you are taking a binary approach on this topic; life is more nuance that than, I'm afraid.
I never said your an alcoholic, i meant in a very general way. And as i was trying to say having a history doesn't make someone an alcoholic, being an alcoholic makes you an alcoholic. Which is what meant when i said that hearing im an alcoholic because my father was one, is like hearing im a pedofile because my father was.
Life isn't black and white, but when it comes to any addiction it boils down to self control
Yeah, I know. Just clarifying the record.
There is literally a mountain of good scientific research that says otherwise. Nevertheless, I guess I'm just saying I'm open to the possibility that, for some people, the choice to take even one drink can result in physical cravings which are much more difficult for them to overcome than for the average human.
There is literally a mountain of good scientific research that says otherwise. Nevertheless, I guess I'm just saying I'm open to the possibility that, for some people, the choice to take even one drink can result in physical cravings which are much more difficult for them to overcome than for the average human.






I need to save your post for the next time you start hounding me to finish a mod.

