Additional garage space to what's already on your house?

 

But none of the structure is sitting on concrete walls and a footing? Or did I miss that?

Nothing like garage space. I'd easily give up 30% of my living area for more garage space.

 

We don't have an attached garage to our house which was built in 1852 or before cars were invented.

with pole barn construction you dig the holes, put concrete "pucks" in the bottom of the holes, drop the posts on top, square them up then begin building top down (trusses, roof, bracing). After the place is built, (current state) a concrete pad is poured so no footers or foundation. The bottom of the building has 2x12's all the way around which create the forms for the pad.

 

Ah, that makes sense. So the T has been just in the driveway?

 

Yes with a good car cover on it when the weather has been lousy which really hasn't been too bad. I will take it for a spin, wash/dry it, put the cover on it overnight.

 

Chief, will the garage get done before the brutal western NY winter?

 

Nice size garage and great property with room to build it! I wish we had room to build something half that size

are you planning to store only cars in there, or you’ll have a wood shop or tool room in part of it?

you might have mentioned this before, but are you driving the 992 during winter?

 

I anticipate having the concrete pad poured and doors on; electric may wait until Spring.

I have a big shed that has my ski work bench in and a tool bench as well. My snowblower and zero turn mower are in there as well as garden tools (shovels, rakes, etc.). Three vehicles go in the new garage, 330i xDrive sedan, my CX9 and the 992. The garage is 7' deeper than my longest vehicle (CX9). I do plan on doing some simple routine vehicle maintenance in the garage so cabinets, quick jacks, etc. will be needed.

 

Are you going to insulate it and if so did you use 2x4 or 2x6 studs for more insulation? It being a stand-alone you'll need a propane or NG heater.

So you are going to have 2 daily drivers as well as the 992 in the same garage and are you putting up a seperate wall between the daily drivers and the 992?

 

It'll get insulated in Spring, not sure if I'll partition it off inside yet. I've looked at electric space heaters you can put on timers, it doesn't have to be warm enough to sleep in there, just enough to take the snow/ice off the vehicles. I DD the CX9, my DD's the 330.

 

Question for you norther folks.
when I grew up I’m Canada the rumor was that you didn’t park your winter car in the garage because the stuff they put on roads the melt the ice will rust your car and that effect is amplified by warmer temperatures. So folks used garages for summer cars and put a plastic carport up for the winter months to keep the snow off their winter beaters.

Is that complete wife’s tale, or is modern rust proofing at a point where this is irrelevant?

 

I never heard that one before. Motor Trend COTY 2023

2023 Porsche 911T COTY Review: Still the One

Porsche hasn’t messed (much) with success, for better and worse. But the 911 T Is Special.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2023...t-coty-review/

 

This doesn't really matter anymore because modern coatings and metals not to mention road treatment chemicals are different now too.

I don't get how this even checks out though. If you drive your car it'll warm up anyway and rust. Also, the point of the stuff on the roads is to melt ice such that it will promote oxidation.

 

Ahhh, so you wised up and moved south. Yes they used temporary plastic carports, but I can't remember seeing them now, probably because all homes have 2 or 3 car garages where I live.

I have always parked my daily drivers outside for two reasons: 1) cars rust faster when parked indoors especially if the garage is heated and 2) I have motorcycles and there is no way I am putting a car with salty slush melting off it next to my motorcycles.

And then in 2009 I got my first Porsche and it is parked indoors 24/365. No way I want a winter car near it or my motorcycles. Come to think about it, I have never parked a vehicle in my garage during the winter months.

I still use Krown T40 on my daily drivers. The last car is now 23 years old and pretty well rust-free considering the salt they use on our roads.

 

Well is it really Special. That is what reviewers claim calling it basic and light.

Light weight at 3254 pounds? The weigh difference compared to another base rear wheel drive Carrera is not worth talking about. Source: Porsche NA looking at curb weights.

Porsches are getting heavier, not lighter and who knows why. In fact comparing two manuals, the base rear wheel drive 992 Carrera T is 13 pounds heavier than a base (AWD) 991.1 Carrera 4 GTS. Go figure!

But in the end, who cares because they offer a very special and solid driving experience.

 

Agreed ^^. "The World is Flat."

 

Damn, even 4 of my 5 motorcycles sre FLAT as well as 2 of my 3 cars are FLAT. And I grew up with real Beetles. I never really thought about it.

But it is a good thing the latest 718 GTS are a six cylinder flat engine again. That and the GT4. I never much liked the flat fours in that series. They don't sound quite right.

 

It's a huge sticking point for me as I'm looking to purchase a used 718 track car and I can't stand the sound of a engine that sounds overworked .

 

Is the H4T in the 718 that bad?
Obviously, the flat 6 would be preferable. Opposed to a 981 Cayman S/GTS?
A quick scan, I'm shocked that the PDK 981 GTS is 22lbs lighter than the 6MT

 

I hope you are considering a 718 Cayman GTS and not the 718 Boxster GTS in the 6 cylinder version. Sure, you can chip the 4-cylinder turbo but if you have 394 HP in the 4.0 that is plenty. I never drove them but I have always heard they handle extremely well. I on the other hand if I bought a track-only car, I would stick to a 911 to get really good at the way it handles.

Maybe you should try a 718 Cayman GTS before you commit. Or what about a 911 GT3? Buying used, better have a very thorough inspection done and getting a PPI does not necessarily guarantee that.

 

Not what I am seeing on the Porsche web site for a present day car. Both identical 718 Cayman GTS 4.0, the PDK is 30 kg (~66 pounds) heavier than the Manual transmission. It normally is.

 

That's what I was thinking.
I was looking on the 981 Wiki page.
Shows the 6MT 981 GTS at 3,053lbs & the PDK GTS at 3,031lbs

 

Yeah, not a convertible guy so definitely a Cayman and preferably a GTS.

 

Out of the elements, kind of . . . .

 

If you want a flat-six, no choice in the matter. That or a GT4 or GT4 RS in those cars.

 

if he wants a manual, scratch the gt4rs. Also for the price of one of those you can probably get a gt3.
what about the ole cayman R?

Also, in case it matters the 4.0 of the cayman GTS and GT4 is not the 4.0 from the 991.2 gt3, my understanding is that it’s closest to the 3.0 engine of the Carrera minus the turbos and added 1L displacement.

garage is coming out nicely! Plenty if space for a lift

 

The doors are on order, should be installed in 5 weeks so there will be some snow unless I buy more tarps and cover the openings which is a distinct possibility.

 

Do you have some rodent repellant or something to keep those out?
My neighbor has the worse time with one of his fords (I know different car) but he constantly gets his wiring chewed. I think he had to flat bed his car 3 times.

 

I don't but will Phil, thanks for the reminder!

 

FWIW, when the floor/foundation is poured, have the concrete be thick enough (4"+) for a two post lift and recommend putting in the floor mount pattern with studs. Make it easier to install later on.

 

Concrete has to be at least 4" thick by code around these parts and will be poured in 7 days. If anything, I will buy Quick Jacks but not a priority. I'm having 220 service installed but not until next Spring.

 

 

A Quickjack is on my wishlist, but the max capacity version to handle the Expedition.
Not having a garage & being able to toss them in the driveway is a big plus.

 

That is what the code states, until you cut the concrete and only find 2.5 inches in some spots. I would know. They would need a long board to run it across the floor to level it.

If I knew I was going to install a 2-post lift in my garage when I had the home built, I would have poured 8" of 32 MPa and used 4 x 4 mesh. I don't need a car falling down on me and in the end, I did it right.

 

My concrete guy is someone I have known since birth and have known and been best friends with his father and brothers since I was 6 years old-I have no qualms about the truthfulness and accuracy of his promise to pour at 4" depth. Want concrete done to last? Ditch the mesh and tie rebar.

 

Concrete is getting poured today for the garage.

 

Is it a pain to pour with the building up? When the garage got built at the property, they poured the slab first, then erected the metal building over it.

that cement truck is really doing a good job with the landscaping!

 

No, the building has 2x12's running around the perimeter at the base. They put stone down and compacted it and the base acts as a form for the concrete. My buddy who did the job said this is a lot easier than the way you describe. And yeah, the driver had the wheels turned, it slid off the side of the stone put down for the driveway in to the softest and wettest part of my lawn. oh well . . . .

 

Bummer about the trenches under that cement truck, but garage is looking good! Just the garage doors left right? And you said you’ll run power n all that?

I really like all the trees around your property.