MDX surprises me.

 

That's one of Acura's best sellers, no?

 

I thought so...looks like they sit there for a while, though. I'm curious how this "average" is calculated; I wonder if there are outliers are impacting this significantly (i.e. unpopular options on vehicles ordered for stock).

 

Was just about to post a link to that article. 3 out of the top 10 is bad. When you actually look at the list, 3 of the top 6 are Acuras!

 

One thing I noticed was the Acura's that used to be sold in Japan (while I lived there) were just flat out better looking cars, and commanded a premium over their other cars. The TL is not sold their, period. The RL was the Legend, and the USDM Accord was Inspire. Now, they do not offer any of them. See the lineup here.

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto/


Toyota was doing the same thing up until about 2006~2007. They then introduced Lexus as a brand and it was a totally Tier 1 level. They had showrooms that had the look, and their service was impeccable.

Nissan never did this, and continued to sell the Infiniti cars as regular Nissan's. So I would lump them together, but Infiniti is at least trying to have performance and good styling. Trying, that is. And I would buy one of them over an Acura. I would look at an Acura if they made something I would want.

 

Interesting to hear. I always felt that Americans put too much value into a brand. Prestige is valuable. But perhaps not among Japanese. Or select Europeans for that matter.

 

I say the ILX will be the soon be the king of the Acura failures. Just watch.

I want Acura go to the brink and only then they will make cars that we actually want to drive.

 

Never mind.

 

Acura can keep selling FWD cars, but please build a new longitudinal FWD/AWD platform, so the new designs will look a lot better with longer hood, much shorter front overhang, just like the 2nd gen Legend and 1st gen Vigor.

Actually the last Acura showroom in HK was closed a long time ago.(in 2007 I believe)When they had one car in the lineup - the RL.

Acura will open its dealerships in Russia in December though. http://acura.ru/

 

It's going to hard for the ILX to top the ZDX in this category.

 

Wasn't the G (at least) branded as a Skyline?

 

I read this article when it first hit up and with Yummy regarding the MDX. It's sort illogical to gauge the popularity based on sales numbers when a model is transitioning generations.

The 3G MDX talk, subsequent spy shots and ultimate NAIAS debut started to make rounds not long after I picked up my 12 Tech last year. So there were plenty of folks holding off on making a purchase on the 12/13 in favor of an all new 14.

That said, the YTD sales figures for the MDX through September 2013 is only about 10% below that of last year. (Granted some of those figures are leftover 12/13 models being heavily discounted.) Honestly, the MDX is the least of Acura's concern.

 

Why didn't they build the Sport 4 concept. 1-gen great-looking TSX-sized car with SH-AWD, I would have bought it. Instead they give us front-bulbous FWD cars with power plenum. No thanks.

 

Actually, the Japanese put an extremely high value in brand names. That is why they pay through the @$$ for a Mercedes/BMW, etc... Now Lexus is really hyped as a "premium" brand there (even though the RX is still sold as a Toyota Harrier). The prices are there too.

So the showrooms are an artistic dream, a woman in a skirt serving coffee/tea/latte, and a salesman that is dressed impeccably. It would shock you to see it in action. Honda? Not so much. My cousin (in-law) is head of one of the dealer maintenance shops in Okinawa. Going there and being treated well is one thing, but not on the same level as Lexus.

Yes, the G sedan (G25/35/37)were/are sold under the Skyline name. They never really made a sporty car out of it. Prior to that car, the R34 Skyline GT-R was the car to have. That went on hiatus from 2002 (I think) until the GT-R became an independent model.

 

I have known this for the past year, as you look across Acura's current selection, it is BORING. not only that, with the MDX and IDX and ILX, its like these vehicles are Hybrids. But not a gas/electric hybrid.. I mean, the design of the car is a mix of something weird. It's like, what the Heck Is IT! Take a look. Acura has 3 car's on this list. What is a Sport Wagon? And whatever the MDX is taking, I wish it would stop and going the crowd. Almost the whole line up looks like they have the same headlights.. What's up with that? Why do all these cars look so much alike but also a little different from each other? They need to make a sports car be only a sports car, and a Utility vehicle be only a utility vehicle, and make a sedan be a sedan. Stop the MIXING of these concepts. (Although a fast sedan is ok)

10 cars Americans don't want to buy
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/10-cars-...48.html?page=2

 

I smell a future Infiniti driver...

 

Don't let usdmJON see this.

 

 

WTF is an IDX?

 

Continue discussion here:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=896502

Thank you.

I believe the poster meant, "RDX".

Edit: Threads merged.

 

This might be my last Infinity.

I think I'm leaning towards a Lexus or something German for my next ride. The Q50 lost me.

 

I've seen the IS350 and a Q50 hybrid and those cars are so far out in Japanese left field that I cannot imagine how they are going to compete against Cadillac, BMW, and Audi.

I'm surprised they didn't come with Hello Kitty or tentacles.

 

Really? Im the biggest German nut swinger and I love how the new IS350 and Q50 look.

 

I thought the IS looked like a flaming pile of in pictures, then when I saw it I was quite impressed. The Q50 I loved at first sight.

 

 

Especially compared to any current Acura.

Infiniti just needs to focus on their interior designs now. They still look kinda bleh compared to Lexus'.

 

I havent a Q50 in person yet...but I LOATHE the new naming system...and the pics havent impressed me.

but I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new IS...F Sport is just great.

 

Yeah, I just don't like the IS. The only Q50 I gave seen looked like it had 14" wheels. Looked awkward and really terrible.

 

 

Acura has gone to hell.

I just got a new car and didnt even consider acura. I was thinking maybe they would make their cars look better a few years ago, but after the new rdx,rlx, mdx, i guess not. same ugly ass cars.

I would also add in that Kia competes with Acura in my mind. Never did i think that i would be driving a kia, but i was very impressed with their lineup. most of their cars look better than acuras as well.

i. think hyundai competes more with teir 1 right now and is actually considered more luxurious than kia.

Kia is going to have a 55-70k sedan in early 2014 in order to move up. Kias main goal is actually competing with BMW. The cadenza is competing with the 528/535. its about 5 inches longer. the Quoris will compete with the 740/750? i guess, its an inch longer and has an optional 4.6 or 5.0 v8.

 

The Q looks tits, don't get me wrong. But they pushed this more towards luxury and I think lost a bit of what the G really was. A cheaper 3 that held its own with the world's best and in some cases surpassed them.

The new Q just isn't as competitive. Sans the super cars the G was one of the few Japanese cars that had some "soul" IMO.

I feel like the new IS picked up where the G left off.

So yes, I eagerly await the next IS-F.

 

Acura's last good year was 2007. I almost wrote 2004 but wanted to include the MDX but that must excluded the the RDX. Since then, Acura went over a tipping point introducing more benign and forgettable designs.

High-end is one part of the game, but fragile and risky (ask Infiniti, and their own RLX just sucks), but they have no reason not being in the competitive game with the IS and the G.

The TLX better be an home run and I don't understand why it is not here yet.

 

Q50s looks fine the way it is.

The problem is

They are keeping the production of G37 Sedan... the program is SOOOOO much better for the G37... it is hard to justify the extra $ for Q50s.

Infiniti needs FI.... really really bad.

 

Did y'all actually read the article? Are you truly not capable of deciphering subjective and objective "journalism"? Even the author admits his own subjectivity. This article and the vast majority of car articles are the opinions of 1 person loosely based on ambiguous data. There is no way in hell that you can say the MDX and ILX are piss-poor sellers when you don't have the ZDX on the list. There are two cars that Acura sells that deserve to be on that list, TSX wagon and ZDX. You guys are smarter than that. If you had an actual objective measure to which you could rate poor selling cars, I bet that list would have 2, maybe 3 of the top 10 correct.




Why? Because of actual facts and sales numbers, or because Moog keeps telling people it's an overpriced Civic? Pull your head out.

 

So wait... are you saying that in the article that was written and linked... Acura was not 3 of the top 6?

We are discussing the article as it was written with our own opinions using the authors opinion as the foundation... since that is what was linked. Are you truly not capable of deciphering subjective and objective replies and opinions of a subjective and objective article on a message forum?

It's all subjective... just like your love for Acura or Moog's opinion of the ILX. Why take it so personal and get worked up over it?

 

Your credibility for criticizing cars is reduced if you are incapable of leaving biases and subjectivity out of it. I'm not really worked up, I just hold a relatively high respect for the opinion of you three (compared to others here, and maybe not so much Yummy ) because y'all are usually good at being objective when it comes to cars and makes. It wouldn't surprise me if some other members here couldn't see through it. I read through the article when it was written on Friday and dismissed it as opinion.

Are 3 out of the top 6 cars on that list Acura? Yep. But that result has almost no basis on fact. On my top ten list of ugly cars, Hyundai holds 4 spots. Does that shock you? Does it matter what I think? It's the same thing here. I didn't understand why you were shocked and applied a "bad" label to Acura.

 

In my own defense, I did say I wanted to know more about the Days on the Lot calculation...

I'm guessing the ZDX wasn't on the list because the author knew Acura had discontinued the model; admittedly, that's just conjecture on my part, though.

 

Infinity is joining Acura in "the race to the bottom".

 

Hapa, my friend, with respect - please go out to your car and check the spelling of the brand name.

Infinit"y"?

 

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