Chief F1 Fan

Nice looking, reminded me of the old 6 coupe







$60K-

knight rider

iTrader: (1)

$60K- is right. Wow. Just wow... I'm not digging the new 3 and 4 series, but I'm sure it'll grow on me. I just hate that these cars are getting larger and larger.

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

^ Agreed. I thought the 1 was a step in the right direction

Chief F1 Fan

Well for me, the size of the 3 coupe makes me look like I'm sitting in the back seat so I'd never buy one, but this is a different story in the 4.

knight rider

iTrader: (1)

Well, for 60 G's you could get a 6 coupe.

Chief F1 Fan

try finding a new 6 coupe for less than $70, stripped down, base is $74k

RPhilMan1

Well damn, it looks pretty nice, but for $60k I think I'd rather get a well-optioned S5.

Mr Marco

Stick with the Z

Chief F1 Fan

I will be doing just that Mr. Marco, my wife however, may be looking to get one.

ttribe

While I bought my '09 E93 335i as a CPO, I did see the original sticker for it...$61k and mine doesn't have every available option. These things get pricey.

knight rider

iTrader: (1)

Yeah, we did a CPO on our X3 Sport, but it was $50K new. 60 K is a lot of coin. That puts a fully loaded 4 Series in "big boy" territory.

knight rider

iTrader: (1)

Preowned?

Here is a 2009 650 with 31K on the clock for ~$39
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...gIndex=1&Log=0

UKwrath33

So what exactly is the 4 competing with? I always felt BMW did pretty well appeasing every facet of the market with the smaller 3, the more "mature" 5 and the super luxury 7 with the sport coupe 3 and super coupe 6 taking care of their demographic. What's the purpose of the 4?

ttribe

Rather than a coupe version of the 3-series, it's now a 4. 3 is now for the sedan, wagon, and GT. 4 is for the coupe, convertible, and forthcoming 4 gran coupe. In other words, it's just a badge change and it reflects what BMW has been doing with the relationship between the 5 and 6 series for some time now.

iSeeYouTwo

Pretty sure he meant new as in 2012+

charliemike

Is this $60k and no navigation?

ttribe

Looks like no nav...geesh, that's just wrong. It ought to be standard on a car in that price range.

Chief F1 Fan

My original statement was with regard to the old 6 Series, not the current one as someone presumed. My last comment was with respect to a brand new 6, not pre-owned, CPO, whatever.

UKwrath33

Makes sense to me. Gracias

Costco

$60k is M3-tier pricing. Jesus.

oo7spy

Is it possible that, instead of every new car being over priced, possibly the price of all cars is going up? Where's Moog. He knows an overpriced car when he sees one.

The front looks like a Benz with a Bimmer grill.

knight rider

iTrader: (1)

This is irrefutable, but $60K in today's dollars is still steep for a 3 Series, even if you call it a 4 Series.

Joneill44

2013 M3 coupe starting price $60,100

supraken

iTrader: (1)

Technically, you can drop the lighting, driver's assistant, M sport packages, add nav (or tech package) and keep it around 55k msrp

Personally, I would take one with Premium, Nav, M sport, Dynamic Handling (haven't tried it on the 4, but made a huge difference on the F30). I think it builds out to around $58k msrp, and around $55-56k after negotiations or if you go through Truecar.

It's pricey, but if you compare apples to apples, it's right around that ballpark. Nowadays if you build out a similar Q50S AWD or IS350 AWD F Sport, it'll be around $50k. S5 Premium Plus with Nav and sports diff is around $58k, Prestige will be around $62k

DaeHanMeenGuk

Shame those are no longer being made in factories...

Joneill44

They are completely off the BMW website

achenator

shit, sticker on my f250 was $63,035. It's a f-ing pick up truck LOL.

Crazy Bimmer

$1900 for the LED headlights? Was hoping that option was going to be cheaper.

neuronbob

EEEEEyikes on the price.

I'll take one M3 instead, please.

SpiderX1016

I'd be scared to see how much an M3 will cost

Joneill44

Fixed

oo7spy

Moog-Type-S

60 grand.....Nuts!........i guess there's a reason why so many lease instead of buy.

madrussian190

I wonder... what in gods name is going to be a 4 grand coupe? Car manufacturers are going full-retard... you never go full-retard.

charliemike

The CTS configurator is up. CTS V-Sport is going past $70k now. Which means a CTS-V is going to be $80k+?

The 435 is starting to look like a bargain.

DaeHanMeenGuk

i guess it's a good time for those who were thinking about getting a cts-v to saddle up for one, assuming the 2014 ones are gonna be 80k+

that being said, the GT-R went up in price quite a lot compared to its debut

alex2364

Didn't the CTS go upmarket to go against the 5 series and the ATS is now against the 3 series? So $80k+ CTS-V vs $90k+ M5 still sounds pretty good.

savage

The next gen M3/M4 will probably push into the mid 60's base with a loaded model in the mid 80's.

The current M3 loaded gets up to $78k or so, before you do special versions like Lime Rock or Frozen colors...

charliemike

True

DaeHanMeenGuk

I've always liked the idea that the CTS-V was basically M3 money for M5 power. Oh, and how the sedan, coupe, and wagon are all priced practically the same.