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$60K-
is right. Wow. Just wow... I'm not digging the new 3 and 4 series, but I'm sure it'll grow on me. I just hate that these cars are getting larger and larger.
is right. Wow. Just wow... I'm not digging the new 3 and 4 series, but I'm sure it'll grow on me. I just hate that these cars are getting larger and larger.
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Yeah, we did a CPO on our X3 Sport, but it was $50K new. 60 K is a lot of coin. That puts a fully loaded 4 Series in "big boy" territory.
Here is a 2009 650 with 31K on the clock for ~$39

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...gIndex=1&Log=0
So what exactly is the 4 competing with? I always felt BMW did pretty well appeasing every facet of the market with the smaller 3, the more "mature" 5 and the super luxury 7 with the sport coupe 3 and super coupe 6 taking care of their demographic. What's the purpose of the 4?
So what exactly is the 4 competing with? I always felt BMW did pretty well appeasing every facet of the market with the smaller 3, the more "mature" 5 and the super luxury 7 with the sport coupe 3 and super coupe 6 taking care of their demographic. What's the purpose of the 4?
Preowned?
Here is a 2009 650 with 31K on the clock for ~$39
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...gIndex=1&Log=0
Here is a 2009 650 with 31K on the clock for ~$39

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...gIndex=1&Log=0
Preowned?
Here is a 2009 650 with 31K on the clock for ~$39
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...gIndex=1&Log=0
Here is a 2009 650 with 31K on the clock for ~$39

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...gIndex=1&Log=0
Rather than a coupe version of the 3-series, it's now a 4. 3 is now for the sedan, wagon, and GT. 4 is for the coupe, convertible, and forthcoming 4 gran coupe. In other words, it's just a badge change and it reflects what BMW has been doing with the relationship between the 5 and 6 series for some time now.
Makes sense to me. Gracias
Is it possible that, instead of every new car being over priced, possibly the price of all cars is going up?
Where's Moog. He knows an overpriced car when he sees one.
The front looks like a Benz with a Bimmer grill.
Where's Moog. He knows an overpriced car when he sees one.The front looks like a Benz with a Bimmer grill.

This is irrefutable, but $60K in today's dollars is still steep for a 3 Series, even if you call it a 4 Series.
Technically, you can drop the lighting, driver's assistant, M sport packages, add nav (or tech package) and keep it around 55k msrp
Personally, I would take one with Premium, Nav, M sport, Dynamic Handling (haven't tried it on the 4, but made a huge difference on the F30). I think it builds out to around $58k msrp, and around $55-56k after negotiations or if you go through Truecar.
It's pricey, but if you compare apples to apples, it's right around that ballpark. Nowadays if you build out a similar Q50S AWD or IS350 AWD F Sport, it'll be around $50k. S5 Premium Plus with Nav and sports diff is around $58k, Prestige will be around $62k
Personally, I would take one with Premium, Nav, M sport, Dynamic Handling (haven't tried it on the 4, but made a huge difference on the F30). I think it builds out to around $58k msrp, and around $55-56k after negotiations or if you go through Truecar.
It's pricey, but if you compare apples to apples, it's right around that ballpark. Nowadays if you build out a similar Q50S AWD or IS350 AWD F Sport, it'll be around $50k. S5 Premium Plus with Nav and sports diff is around $58k, Prestige will be around $62k
i guess it's a good time for those who were thinking about getting a cts-v to saddle up for one, assuming the 2014 ones are gonna be 80k+
that being said, the GT-R went up in price quite a lot compared to its debut
that being said, the GT-R went up in price quite a lot compared to its debut









