2012 GT-R goes 0-60 mph in 2.7 seconds!?!
02-03-2011, 05:09 AM
#81
I shoot people
If I could have one, part of having it... would just because of all the haters. And seriously, how often are you going to launch the thing? I mean... I'm living in an area where there are tons of Lambos, Ferraris, Porches, AM's and yes... even GT-Rs... in the end, it's a status, and yes, I'd drive it fast when I have the opportunity, but as far as far as taking it to the tracks? I wouldn't 
You guys talk about the whole launch thing as if it's something people do every weekend 
You guys talk about the whole launch thing as if it's something people do every weekend
02-03-2011, 08:21 AM
#82
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
You guys realize with launch control on it's only slightly slower to 60 mph right? We're talking a couple tenths slower not seconds slower.
If you guys think the price tag is inflated.. wait til you see how much the price of regular goods is going to go up in the next year.
If you guys think the price tag is inflated.. wait til you see how much the price of regular goods is going to go up in the next year.
02-03-2011, 11:18 AM
#84
My first Avatar....
02-03-2011, 11:20 AM
#85
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
I think he owns a ZDX too.. 
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02-03-2011, 03:48 PM
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I hope Nissan looses a class-action suit because of this car, the whole premise of buying a car with a feature included stock that the manufacturer knows destroys the transmission they ought to pay out the nose. The GT-R is a sad excuse for a halo car, if they can't build the damn thing as fast as a Porsche without a shit warranty then they shouldn't build it at all.
2012 owners manual
http://www.nagtroc.org/files/2012-Nissan-GTR.pdf
WARRANTY INFORMATION
Please read this Owner’s Manual carefully,
together with your Warranty Information Booklet
which describes a number of express limitations,
exclusions and ways to void your warranty for
failing to follow the instructions contained in this
Owner’s Manual, including, but not limited to:
. Failure to use proper parts, fuel and fluids,
. Driving with the VDC off,
. Racing,
. Any competitive driving of any sort whatsoever,
. Use on a track or driving on any airstrip,
. Modifications, including adding/replacing
reprogramming, attempting to reprogram,
altering, disconnecting any computer, control
unit or electronic modules,
. Deleting any or all stored information in any
computer, control unit or electronic module
including VSDR,
. Failure to have required Performance Optimization
Services performed.
What a buzzkill.
http://www.nagtroc.org/files/2012-Nissan-GTR.pdf
WARRANTY INFORMATION
Please read this Owner’s Manual carefully,
together with your Warranty Information Booklet
which describes a number of express limitations,
exclusions and ways to void your warranty for
failing to follow the instructions contained in this
Owner’s Manual, including, but not limited to:
. Failure to use proper parts, fuel and fluids,
. Driving with the VDC off,
. Racing,
. Any competitive driving of any sort whatsoever,
. Use on a track or driving on any airstrip,
. Modifications, including adding/replacing
reprogramming, attempting to reprogram,
altering, disconnecting any computer, control
unit or electronic modules,
. Deleting any or all stored information in any
computer, control unit or electronic module
including VSDR,
. Failure to have required Performance Optimization
Services performed.
What a buzzkill.
"Buy our really fast car but don't do anything with it. It wasn't really meant to be driven like a high performance car. We were just trying to undercut Porsche price wise. We didn't really think the people who would buy an 80 thousand dollar Nissan would actually want to drive it like a Porsche. Sorry....we want you to buy, but don't play.
Thanks
Nissan"
love all the wrong and misrepresented information in this thread.
Most of these idiots would recommend you a 996, Boxster, or Cayman which had widespread engine failures.
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02-03-2011, 04:14 PM
#87
Senior Moderator
If i didnt post what rumors were then i would have never learned about the truth. I already said its reasonable to use LC 4 times but needs time to reset. No big issue there.
Also dont see anyone recommending anything other than a 997 turbo or a GT3.
No need to get all huffy about it.
Also dont see anyone recommending anything other than a 997 turbo or a GT3.
No need to get all huffy about it.
02-03-2011, 04:16 PM
#88
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Majofo now accepting paypal donations to validate concerns over LC.
02-03-2011, 04:26 PM
#89
Instructor
Just curious of how many Nissan transmission failures compared with Honda's. I don't understand how you can bash any other automakers transmissions with Honda's track record as of late.
02-03-2011, 04:31 PM
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If i didnt post what rumors were then i would have never learned about the truth. I already said its reasonable to use LC 4 times but needs time to reset. No big issue there.
Also dont see anyone recommending anything other than a 997 turbo or a GT3.
No need to get all huffy about it.
Also dont see anyone recommending anything other than a 997 turbo or a GT3.
No need to get all huffy about it.
02-03-2011, 04:55 PM
#92
The sizzle in the Steak
Pay close attention to the TL in his av.......look closer......do you see it yet?
....seriously now.
02-03-2011, 05:47 PM
#93
I didn't like how nissan was sneaky about all this before and how people were stunned when the tranny failures weren't warrantied. I guess I just expected more from that company and a 100k car.
Price probably jumped from 70k to 100k because they know there will be tranny problems and they will eventually have to replace them. So just made the car 100k instead of 70 so when the tranny fails you already paid for it haha haha jk
02-03-2011, 05:55 PM
#94
Instructor
I didn't say anything good about honda's transmissions because this is a thread about a GTR.
I didn't like how nissan was sneaky about all this before and how people were stunned when the tranny failures weren't warrantied. I guess I just expected more from that company and a 100k car.
Price probably jumped from 70k to 100k because they know there will be tranny problems and they will eventually have to replace them. So just made the car 100k instead of 70 so when the tranny fails you already paid for it haha haha jk
I didn't like how nissan was sneaky about all this before and how people were stunned when the tranny failures weren't warrantied. I guess I just expected more from that company and a 100k car.
Price probably jumped from 70k to 100k because they know there will be tranny problems and they will eventually have to replace them. So just made the car 100k instead of 70 so when the tranny fails you already paid for it haha haha jk
02-03-2011, 07:13 PM
#95
Trolling Canuckistan
Honda had a massive transmission problem problem, they accepted it and covered transmissions for over 100K miles.
Nissan put a feature in a car and forbid you from using it. When Nissan's transmissions failed they said it's the customers fault and covered nothing.
Try to keep up here but make sure you keep your helmet on so you don't hurt yourself. No one is bashing Nissans transmissions, they are bashing how Nissan treats their customers who purchased a 80K car, usually at a premium over sticker price and bashing Nissan for putting systems into a car that if used void your warranty.
Nissan's transmissions are great, Nissan the company sucks.
02-03-2011, 07:19 PM
#96
Instructor
Let's not ride the short bus here.
Honda had a massive transmission problem problem, they accepted it and covered transmissions for over 100K miles.
Nissan put a feature in a car and forbid you from using it. When Nissan's transmissions failed they said it's the customers fault and covered nothing.
Try to keep up here but make sure you keep your helmet on so you don't hurt yourself. No one is bashing Nissans transmissions, they are bashing how Nissan treats their customers who purchased a 80K car, usually at a premium over sticker price and bashing Nissan for putting systems into a car that if used void your warranty.
Nissan's transmissions are great, Nissan the company sucks.
Honda had a massive transmission problem problem, they accepted it and covered transmissions for over 100K miles.
Nissan put a feature in a car and forbid you from using it. When Nissan's transmissions failed they said it's the customers fault and covered nothing.
Try to keep up here but make sure you keep your helmet on so you don't hurt yourself. No one is bashing Nissans transmissions, they are bashing how Nissan treats their customers who purchased a 80K car, usually at a premium over sticker price and bashing Nissan for putting systems into a car that if used void your warranty.
Nissan's transmissions are great, Nissan the company sucks.
02-03-2011, 07:56 PM
#97
Three Wheelin'
Nissan has treated me really good so far with my GT-R. I had a complaint and I wasn't so sure that the local tech was 100% sure of what he was doing. Nissan sent a GT-R specialist down to make sure I was satisfied. I have used the LC2 launch control in my car a few times, granted it's only launching about 3k rpm, but I don't see what the big deal is. Car is just as impressive just stomping on the go pedal.
02-03-2011, 09:00 PM
#98
Safety Car
I hope it goes into production, so i get some royalties for my design. sheesh!
02-03-2011, 11:18 PM
#99
Senior Moderator
The comments weren't about Nissan trans being weak and failing (we are talking the GTR trans which NO other Nissan uses). They are about Nissan giving an option on the car but if you use it your warranty gets voided.
02-04-2011, 01:51 AM
#100
Instructor
"This can be done up to 4 times -- to protect the delicate and expensive transmission and clutches -- but it is available and in the manual this time." This was stated on Inside Line about the 2012 GTR launch control. What you are referring to is the 2008 I believe. Now who is behind again? We are talking about the 2012 GTR right? Try to keep up.
02-04-2011, 09:33 AM
#101
Drifting
I never said you did own one.
However, I would be within reason to assume you like the design for you to put a two door version of it as your avatar.
See above. If you need me to spoon feed you a lengthier explanation, just let me know. Your pretension and condescension were not in any way beneficial to this thread. You're neither as smart nor as funny as you think you are.
However, I would be within reason to assume you like the design for you to put a two door version of it as your avatar.
Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Pay close attention to the TL in his av.......look closer......do you see it yet?
Hint: It's not in production, and said member with av does not own one either.
....seriously now.
Hint: It's not in production, and said member with av does not own one either.
....seriously now.
02-04-2011, 10:35 AM
#102
The sizzle in the Steak
I never said you did own one.
However, I would be within reason to assume you like the design for you to put a two door version of it as your avatar.
See above. If you need me to spoon feed you a lengthier explanation, just let me know. Your pretension and condescension were not in any way beneficial to this thread. You're neither as smart nor as funny as you think you are.
However, I would be within reason to assume you like the design for you to put a two door version of it as your avatar.
See above. If you need me to spoon feed you a lengthier explanation, just let me know. Your pretension and condescension were not in any way beneficial to this thread. You're neither as smart nor as funny as you think you are.
...most know he doesn't.....but that he chopped a coupe version. It's a good chop thread.
You can try to dance around it, but it is what it is.
Now you know better!
02-04-2011, 12:52 PM
#103
Trolling Canuckistan
I can't think of any other manufacter who puts a feature in the car that you can't use everyday if you choose to. This would be the same as Acura putting in a USB connection for your ipod but voiding your warranty on all stereo components if you actually plug an ipod into it. It just doesn't make sense.
02-04-2011, 03:06 PM
#104
Senior Moderator
Who is far behind?
"This can be done up to 4 times -- to protect the delicate and expensive transmission and clutches -- but it is available and in the manual this time." This was stated on Inside Line about the 2012 GTR launch control. What you are referring to is the 2008 I believe. Now who is behind again? We are talking about the 2012 GTR right? Try to keep up.
"This can be done up to 4 times -- to protect the delicate and expensive transmission and clutches -- but it is available and in the manual this time." This was stated on Inside Line about the 2012 GTR launch control. What you are referring to is the 2008 I believe. Now who is behind again? We are talking about the 2012 GTR right? Try to keep up.
Again, so far ahead you've missed the point. Regardless of whether Nissan makes the greatest cars in the world, the worst cars in the world, or somewhere in the middle, the way they back their product is unacceptable. They brag about the performance of the car but when you buy one if you attempt to achieve the advertised performance you've voided your warranty.
I can't think of any other manufacter who puts a feature in the car that you can't use everyday if you choose to. This would be the same as Acura putting in a USB connection for your ipod but voiding your warranty on all stereo components if you actually plug an ipod into it. It just doesn't make sense.
I can't think of any other manufacter who puts a feature in the car that you can't use everyday if you choose to. This would be the same as Acura putting in a USB connection for your ipod but voiding your warranty on all stereo components if you actually plug an ipod into it. It just doesn't make sense.
02-04-2011, 03:38 PM
#106
Again, so far ahead you've missed the point. Regardless of whether Nissan makes the greatest cars in the world, the worst cars in the world, or somewhere in the middle, the way they back their product is unacceptable. They brag about the performance of the car but when you buy one if you attempt to achieve the advertised performance you've voided your warranty.
I can't think of any other manufacter who puts a feature in the car that you can't use everyday if you choose to. This would be the same as Acura putting in a USB connection for your ipod but voiding your warranty on all stereo components if you actually plug an ipod into it. It just doesn't make sense.
I can't think of any other manufacter who puts a feature in the car that you can't use everyday if you choose to. This would be the same as Acura putting in a USB connection for your ipod but voiding your warranty on all stereo components if you actually plug an ipod into it. It just doesn't make sense.
02-04-2011, 03:53 PM
#109
Who is far behind?
"This can be done up to 4 times -- to protect the delicate and expensive transmission and clutches -- but it is available and in the manual this time." This was stated on Inside Line about the 2012 GTR launch control. What you are referring to is the 2008 I believe. Now who is behind again? We are talking about the 2012 GTR right? Try to keep up.
"This can be done up to 4 times -- to protect the delicate and expensive transmission and clutches -- but it is available and in the manual this time." This was stated on Inside Line about the 2012 GTR launch control. What you are referring to is the 2008 I believe. Now who is behind again? We are talking about the 2012 GTR right? Try to keep up.
02-05-2011, 12:52 PM
#110
GT-R is a Beast...PERIOD...Would I own one heck yeah...its between it and a Z07 optioned Z06...I wanted the Carbon edition Z but with a production run of only 500 the price will be out of my reach/comfort zone...GT-R haters I get it..I used to hate Vettes until I owned one...
02-05-2011, 02:12 PM
#111
Instructor
02-05-2011, 03:16 PM
#112
mmmmmm....
WTF? You are comparing $1.5 million dollar car to $70k car?? good one, and what's that car got anything to do with this topic? this isn't "post your favorite car" thread.
Wait? We get banned for sharing our OWN thoughts? How is that talking back? lol. Mods aren't God like...
It's okay to talk back w/o using any personal attack...
once again
It's okay to talk back w/o using any personal attack...once again
02-05-2011, 06:33 PM
#114
Trolling Canuckistan
I wouldn't worry too much about talking back to a mod, they seem to encourage open discussion as long as it stays on topic and doesn't turn into blatant repeated personal attacks.
So on topic, do you have no response to Nissan putting features in the car that you are forbidden to use at will? Do you still find that acceptable from an auto manufacturer in their highest priced product?
So on topic, do you have no response to Nissan putting features in the car that you are forbidden to use at will? Do you still find that acceptable from an auto manufacturer in their highest priced product?
02-05-2011, 07:02 PM
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I wouldn't worry too much about talking back to a mod, they seem to encourage open discussion as long as it stays on topic and doesn't turn into blatant repeated personal attacks.
So on topic, do you have no response to Nissan putting features in the car that you are forbidden to use at will? Do you still find that acceptable from an auto manufacturer in their highest priced product?
So on topic, do you have no response to Nissan putting features in the car that you are forbidden to use at will? Do you still find that acceptable from an auto manufacturer in their highest priced product?
02-05-2011, 07:49 PM
#117
As great as the GT-R is a car - and im a fan, I don't think this car will have long term value.
A Porsche of equal value will prob. fair better.
A Porsche of equal value will prob. fair better.
02-05-2011, 11:39 PM
#118
Punk Rocker
Again, so far ahead you've missed the point. Regardless of whether Nissan makes the greatest cars in the world, the worst cars in the world, or somewhere in the middle, the way they back their product is unacceptable. They brag about the performance of the car but when you buy one if you attempt to achieve the advertised performance you've voided your warranty.
I can't think of any other manufacter who puts a feature in the car that you can't use everyday if you choose to. This would be the same as Acura putting in a USB connection for your ipod but voiding your warranty on all stereo components if you actually plug an ipod into it. It just doesn't make sense.
I can't think of any other manufacter who puts a feature in the car that you can't use everyday if you choose to. This would be the same as Acura putting in a USB connection for your ipod but voiding your warranty on all stereo components if you actually plug an ipod into it. It just doesn't make sense.
Nissan could have handled the HANDFUL of problems in a better way, granted, but this was by far no common occurence. And now with the 2012 the situation is fully resolved so lets stop beating a dead horse, mmmkay?
02-06-2011, 04:07 AM
#119
Senior Moderator
THis is just silly and way out of proportion. The number of GT-R owners whose trannys failed and were denied warranty work was very minor. It was blown way up by the net but the number of GT-R customers whose trannys have been completely fine faaaaaaaaaaaaar outnumbers those with problems.
Nissan could have handled the HANDFUL of problems in a better way, granted, but this was by far no common occurence. And now with the 2012 the situation is fully resolved so lets stop beating a dead horse, mmmkay?
Nissan could have handled the HANDFUL of problems in a better way, granted, but this was by far no common occurence. And now with the 2012 the situation is fully resolved so lets stop beating a dead horse, mmmkay?
02-06-2011, 09:50 AM
#120
Punk Rocker
Again, that is not an issue with the 2012. Nissan did what they should have done in the first place and made it impossible to use the LC after 4 consecutive uses (forcing a 1.5 mile cool down, which any reasonable person could hardly object to)....