2003 acura tl type-s vs. 2003 acura rsx type-s
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2003 acura tl type-s vs. 2003 acura rsx type-s
This thread got closed so I moved it here.
I am currently going to buy a new car and I am deciding between these two. I need opinions becasue I like both of them. I am aware they are completely different cars!! Now if I get the TL i plan on lowering it, would that take the luxury out of it?? I need peoples EDUCATED opinions because they are pretty much the same price and I cannot decide right now. Thanks
I am currently going to buy a new car and I am deciding between these two. I need opinions becasue I like both of them. I am aware they are completely different cars!! Now if I get the TL i plan on lowering it, would that take the luxury out of it?? I need peoples EDUCATED opinions because they are pretty much the same price and I cannot decide right now. Thanks
#6
Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
2 very different cars. You get more car with a TL. The RSX is an ok car but it's not fast & it's not a style car.
#7
Oh and i got my kit from my local Acura Dealer. They had to order one for me. Unfortunately the side skirts were the only pieces that didnt come in the color of my car. I had to have there body shop sand em down and repaint them SSM factory color. They came out flawless. Anyways, those kits are hard to find because they dont manufacture them anymore. When acura stop manufacturing parts like that, they send all of them to this one place, forgot what its called but thats where the dealer ordered my kit from for me. I had to pay out the ass for the kit though cuz it was through the dealer, oh well cuz i wanted it badly before they were all gone. Yea, the back rubs sometimes when i have a full car of 4 people and i hit a decent dip in the road or if i turn tooo hard from one main road onto another main road. The front only rubs for a split sec only when i hit a nise size dip in the road. You know those unexpected dips in the roads that you dont see? Thats when the front ones rub. If im driving by myself, just me in the car driving, the back never rubs but the front will rub for a split sec if i hit a dip like i mentioned already.
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#9
I dont think you know what you want so it's an easier choice to get the RSX where you have plenty of modding abilities against the TL-S where you are limited. I can see it now 6 months down the road you being unhappy you bought the heavy TL-S w/260hp thinking you are gonna be smoking everyone on the streets when in reality you wont.
#10
Just to chime in... I had a 2002 TL-S lowered (among other mods) and it removes some of the luxury, however, not all of it. I dropped it with H&R Sports which were perfect b/c they stiffened the ride up so it handled well... but not too much, so the car still had a great feel to it. Pics can be found on www.juniorbean.net if you're interested.
Even though you're comparing apples to oranges, I'll give my two cents. I'd go TL. The RSX is a kiddie car to me... and would only be something I would have been interested in around 19 years old or younger. But that's just me.
Even though you're comparing apples to oranges, I'll give my two cents. I'd go TL. The RSX is a kiddie car to me... and would only be something I would have been interested in around 19 years old or younger. But that's just me.
#11
The only thing that is really stopping me from getting the tl is the transmission. I don't want to spend 20k on the car and then 2 months later have to spend another 5k on a transmission. Trust me, I would already have the tl if it wasn't for this!!
#12
Originally Posted by kgrules12
The only thing that is really stopping me from getting the tl is the transmission. I don't want to spend 20k on the car and then 2 months later have to spend another 5k on a transmission. Trust me, I would already have the tl if it wasn't for this!!
#13
Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
The service bulletin 02-027 states that it applies to all TLs for 2002 and 2003 model years. It extends the powertrain warranty to 7 years/100k miles. In other words, should you buy one that doesn't have over 100k on it, you'll be fine when it comes to the tranny.
#15
Originally Posted by kgrules12
But once i go over 100k would I have to worry about it? Also, if I buy it used would I still have this warranty??
#16
Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
The factory will most likely do the service as a goodwill if it has over 100k miles on it. I have personally signed on the ROs for a few of them under that clause. Buying the car used will have nothing to do with it in this case. This is a service bulletin, not just a regular warranty. Hyundai is one of the worst about the initial warranty being scrapped when it's sold to a 2nd owner. You basically only have whatever is left of the 3.36 bumper to bumper warranty. That 10-year shit is out the window.
#17
Originally Posted by kgrules12
Okay, so just some or your guy's opinion. What percentage of the 03 type s tl's do you think would have or have had their transmission replaced or had something go wrong with them.
#18
Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
It really varied. I mean, they built 50k of them per year. I would say I saw about 2-3 come in per week. Turns out, there were about 15k of them that had it done nationally, but that numebr is a bit messed up because there were a couple other methods tried to fix the problem. They ended up agreeing that replacing the tranny and the PCM was the only way to go...after about 3 other "fixes" that used a little less work/parts. I wouldn't sweat this detail very much. Honda got the fix, but there are still a lot of owners out there that are very bitter on this topic.
If I did the math right its about a 35% chance that your tranny is gonna be screwed? Have you replaced your tranny??
#19
Originally Posted by kgrules12
So when they replaced them was that it, they were good to go, or was it an ongoing problem like they had to be replaced multiple times?? Also, where do you work?? You said you saw 2-3 of them come in per year.
If I did the math right its about a 35% chance that your tranny is gonna be screwed? Have you replaced your tranny??
If I did the math right its about a 35% chance that your tranny is gonna be screwed? Have you replaced your tranny??
#20
Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
They were initially just switching out the forward solenoids (A then B)...then the tranny...then the PCM...then the PCM and the tranny. I was seeing 2-3 a week, not per year. I used to work for Honda (for 2.5 years) and then Acura (for 3.5 years) before going into banking last year. I haven't had to replace a tranny in any of my personal cars. I only drive Japanese-built Honda products (except for the 3 generations of Civic Si that I've owned). Other than the Si inventory, I've had a '98 ITR, an RSX-S (for the track), 2 S2Ks, and 2 TSXs.
#21
Originally Posted by kgrules12
So it's almost definate I will have to replace the tranny on that bastard? Are the 02 and 03's the only one with these problems?? How was the TSX in terms of power?
The engine in the TSX is good enough for a 4-banger. I've had 2 now, and I'm happy with it. Mind you, I've bought a TSX after each S2000. By no means would I call the TSX fast, but it's still a joy to drive.
#22
Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
I wouldn't go so far to say that it's definate, but Acura willingly admitted that there was a problem with the initial transmissions and offered support to help resolve the matter. Like I said before, I wouldn't let the trany factor be the deciding one when it comes to purchase.
The engine in the TSX is good enough for a 4-banger. I've had 2 now, and I'm happy with it. Mind you, I've bought a TSX after each S2000. By no means would I call the TSX fast, but it's still a joy to drive.
The engine in the TSX is good enough for a 4-banger. I've had 2 now, and I'm happy with it. Mind you, I've bought a TSX after each S2000. By no means would I call the TSX fast, but it's still a joy to drive.
#23
Also have you driven the 03 tl type s. You said you had an rsx type s, stock for stock what do you think is the faster car. I know dvsxlt247 already said the tl type s was faster just want to get a second opinion. Also dvsxlt247, hows ur 99 in terms of power? are you happy with it? you said it wasn't an type s right? Any prob with ur transmission?
#24
Originally Posted by kgrules12
Also have you driven the 03 tl type s. You said you had an rsx type s, stock for stock what do you think is the faster car. I know dvsxlt247 already said the tl type s was faster just want to get a second opinion. Also dvsxlt247, hows ur 99 in terms of power? are you happy with it? you said it wasn't an type s right? Any prob with ur transmission?
#26
Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
I was in management for dealers for a long time. I used to use them as demos. I don't think of the cars as which one is faster because they both run about the same acceleration times in stock form. Like I said before, you're comparing apples and oranges...strike that. Apples and watermelons. They aren't compeditors. Hell, they're in the same lineup and have 2 VERY different target demographics. I'd say, out of the 2, to get the TL-S. It holds its value better, has better fit and finish, has better interior/exterior features, and overall offers more for the money.
Also what do you would think would be reasonable price for a 03 tl-s with 30-60k miles on it?? Thanks for all the help!!
#28
Originally Posted by kgrules12
yeah im prolly gonna get the tl. Just a question you said u owned an rsx type-s but not a tl-s, just wondering why you would want me to get a tl-s. Is it just cause u use your type s for the track?
Also what do you would think would be reasonable price for a 03 tl-s with 30-60k miles on it?? Thanks for all the help!!
Also what do you would think would be reasonable price for a 03 tl-s with 30-60k miles on it?? Thanks for all the help!!
#30
Originally Posted by chungkopi
rsx is no good!!
no wonder they won't make 'em anymore!!
no wonder they won't make 'em anymore!!
The new Civic Si is basically the reincarnation of the RSX.
#31
FYI, I had my tranny replaced around 30k (if I'm remembering correctly). Once the new tranny and transmission cooler was dropped in, ran smooth as butter. Sold it around 73k and it was still running great.
#32
Originally Posted by juniorbean
FYI, I had my tranny replaced around 30k (if I'm remembering correctly). Once the new tranny and transmission cooler was dropped in, ran smooth as butter. Sold it around 73k and it was still running great.
#33
I just got off the phone with a guy from niello acura and he said not all 03 tl's are covered under the 7yr/100,000 transmission replacement. He said he would have to run the VIN number to see if it applied to a certain car!! WTF so even if I get one and the tranny breaks I might not be covered, I think buying this TL might be a major risk!!!
#34
Originally Posted by kgrules12
I just got off the phone with a guy from niello acura and he said not all 03 tl's are covered under the 7yr/100,000 transmission replacement. He said he would have to run the VIN number to see if it applied to a certain car!! WTF so even if I get one and the tranny breaks I might not be covered, I think buying this TL might be a major risk!!!
I can't force someone to buy one car over another. All I can do is offer a wide variety of facts & figures and present them in a manner that helps one make an informed decision. Just like when I used to actually sell them.
#35
Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
Slow down there, Turbo. The reason not all 2003 models are covered under the bulletin is because they caught the problem and started issuing later 2003 models with the updated transmission and PCM. You have no further implied risk in purchasing one that was using the updated 'box. From the input on a number of your posts, it's safe to say that you worry too much.
I can't force someone to buy one car over another. All I can do is offer a wide variety of facts & figures and present them in a manner that helps one make an informed decision. Just like when I used to actually sell them.
I can't force someone to buy one car over another. All I can do is offer a wide variety of facts & figures and present them in a manner that helps one make an informed decision. Just like when I used to actually sell them.
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