The new Maxima is much hotter!

 

other then mdx, acura's 09 lineup is garbage...

maxima looks a 100% better.. the headlights will take a while to get used too.

 

that's so sad though to think that the a Nissan vs. an Acura. Makes Honda look really cheap and less upscale. Couldn't you compare the Maxima to the Accord at least, but maybe not....

 

People compare Avalon or Camry to the ES350 too..and a lot of parents compare the highlander to the RX350...

 

^

and the altima is probably closer to the accord.

 

maxima.

TL (camryXmazda6) not too good looking.

 

so what are you trying to say?

 

Not really into F/F semi-luxo barges, but if I had to pick. Maxima > TL

 

from a broad standpoint we should technically compare this way:

Nissan to Honda

Infiniti to Acura

 

I'll take the Maxima. It looks just 'ok' in pics, but very nice in person, and it has all the features that the current G35 has, plus a dual moonroof. It's a very nice car, and interior looks pretty good, very similar to the G35, too.

Other than the AWD, I don't see why anyone would pick the TL over the Maxima, unless they think Acura is a luxury brand (somewhat).

Wake up Acura.

 

08 TL will prolly be my last car. THe maxima will beat the shit out of a tl in stlying, hotness, and speed. ANd then the g37 will do that to both. And i think the 09 Audi A4 will be a good one.

 

Maxima looks MUCH better than the 4G TL. Sorry Acura designers, but you didn't win me over on this. I just cannot bring myself to like the exterior styling.

Interiorwise, the TL FTW.

However, modded 2G RL over both. (see sig)

 

Saw a new Maxima on the road last weekend. I had to do a double-take since I had no idea what I was looking at. Pictures do not give the new Maxima justice.

I do hope the same can be said about the 4th gen TL but I've seen the oversized grill on the '09 TSX and cannot see how that will bode well for the TL. Nor can I see how the trunk design will be better in person than in pics.

I can't say anything about the interiors to either car. That would be more of a factor than exterior appearance since I would have to live with that on a daily basis. But don't get me wrong -- what it looks like on the outside is very important too.

So far:

Maxima: 1
TL: 0

Ironic to think Honda cars know where it's going in appearance / direction but the trucks are kinda quirky in design. In contrast, Acura (cars) is out in left field but at least the trucks have an appearance that most here could say has a positive design (definitely in comparison to the cars ...).

 

i never thought i would say it, but the maxima wins this battle.

 

 

Well seems like the new Max has an advantage in the looks dept. I to agree. If you took looks completely out of the equation and just compared features, performance, gas mileage etc which would win? I would say the base TL should be the comparison car. The SH-AWD would be probably $4k-$5k more than a maxxed out Max. Maybe it is worth that cost to get the better engine and AWD.

Finally, why do a lot of people have a problem with the CVT. I drove it and loved it. Not necessarly more than my '06 TL 6MT but if I went to a slushbox I would choose this over a standard automatic any day. If for one can't stand the downshift and delay in a regular automatic when passing or having it search for a gear when going up hills/mountains. To me the CVT gives you a great compromise and is buttery smooth. comments on the tranny?

 

exactly

if the Maxima is the 4DSC, what is the 4G TL?

 

Like I said before, the Maxima has been somewhat competing with the TL at least since the 2G TL. The Maxima has always been the flagship or Nissan and has always offered (or at least that's what Nissan has been trying to achieve) sportiness and luxury in a value package, similar to what the TL has always been doing. They both seem to sell reasonably well, especially the TL. Perhaps the difference now is that, the TL has always been a prettier car than the Maxima? But the 4G TL is now uglier than the Maxima? That's the only difference I can see now and suddenly many people are saying the Max is better....I think someone even said the Maxima will have better handling and acceleration than the TL. I don't think we can make conclusion like that...there isn't any official road test yet..only a few "first-drive" reviews. But from these first-drive reviews (you can find them in the 4G TL forum), I don't recall seeing any negative reviews yet (then someone will come and say oh Honda/Acura must be paying big bucks to these mags that's why the reviews are positive...this kind of comment is simply childish); in fact, the reviews thus far are quite positive.

In summary, I will hold my judgment until I see more road tests. Appearance-wise though, both are ugly, but the Maxima is still clearly the winner in this category.

 

no,

TL is not in the same class as a maxima.......it is a better car......that's like saying that neon SRT/8 is comparable to a TL becuase it has 250hp.........


TL is for a person who wants a compentent car that can get out of it's own way........while being quiet and unobstusive......

maxima is for someone who wants a sporty family car and you DO PAY to add the options that you get standard on a TL

 

hmm...I don't think I said they are in the same class...I said "the Maxima has always been SOMEWHAT a competitor to the TL," not "the Maxima has always been a DIRECT competitor to the TL." Sorry about the confusion.

 

whether or not the maxima and TL are direct or somewhat competitors, i can see customers looking for a midsize sports sedan in the mid-30's range cross-shopping both cars.

so, yes. i would consider them competitors because price-wise, the two cars offer a lot of the same things.

and it says a lot about the TL's looks when the majority in this thread are saying the maxima's the better looking car. especially after so many of you hated it in the maxima thread.

for nissan for bringing the maxima back.

 

the CVT mated to the VQ works great. i loved how you dont feel any shifts and theres no lag when you stomp on the gas

 

What about a Benz C350?
if you don't like that what about a BMW 335?
If those 2 are your cup of tea i'd go with the Maxima.

 

the new acuras look like cheap saturns

 

they actually do...

the TSX grille looks like it came from a saturns.

and the TL's rear reminds me of the aura's.

 

In a way, I think the 09 Maxima is similar to the 07-08 TL-S 5AT. Road and Track actually did a full test on the Max..0-60 in 6.1s, 1/4mile in 14.6@97.7mph. These numbers are quite similar to what a TL-S 5AT can do (there's a guy from the TL forum who ran his stock TL-S 5AT at a track and got 14.3s even though it was his first time on the track, granted, it was a "fast" track). A quick visit to Nissan website tells me a loaded Max is $38k, which is also similar to what a TL-S 5AT would cost (of course, dealers have been selling the TL-S at a much lower price as we all know).

 

why not just suggest an Aston Martin..read the thread title, then proceed to think whether you should post about a 335 or c350

does 335= maxima/tl no proceed to question two now
does c350= maxima/tl no

then dont post about them

 

guys, i hate to burst your bubble...but if we cant compete with the maxima, then we are in utter failure...our price and quality standards chalk up the the infiniti G. the HONDA accord is the relative comparison the NISSAN maxima...

 

I DESPISE the CVT! I have rented Maximas and Muranos and cannot stand the CVT. It feels like I'm driving a go-cart (in more ways than one).

I have had two previous Maximas and loved them. But, they are not in the same competitive market as the TL. I moved up considerably when I got my TL.

You may like the looks of the new Maxima, but that still doesn't put it in the same niche as the TL. AND, the TL has moved upscale this year.

I haven't driven a 2009 yet so I can't make that comparison. Suffice it to say that the 2008s I had were cheap and plasticky in comparison. They were also rough and noisy and topped out at 132 MPH in the Nevada desert.

I am reserving my final judgement (of styling) until I see the 2009 TL in person but I'm not happy with the pics. In any case, I'm sure that homely step-child will have quality and dependability built in -and get good mileage and have top safety ratings.

 

Maxima for sure. I really enjoyed our 07 Maxima and I just had 2 complaints- 1. Orange gauges 2. Turning radius

Never had any problems and the new one looks much better.

 

I drove next to one this morning and all I could do was

 

Thats like asking who you'd rather take home for a night, Joan Rivers vs. Rosie O'Donnell.

Either way it doesnt look good.

I think they both are horrid, and were styled to be DIFFERENT not BETTER.

 

The O9 Maxima is way better looking than the 09 TL. The 09 TSX is becoming more common on the roads and I have grown to actually like it I only saw one 09 RL on the road and it was WDP with some nice tints. It actually looks good. Guess we will have to wait for the 09 TL on the streets.