does anyone know if canon have as good of HD video cameras as their dslrs?

i want something without disc,and something with high quality color,and works well inside the house,especially in the room..u know..

maybe somethin with a mountable light?

since i like my XSI so much,i think id like to stick wih canon..

my budget is $1,000

 

this camera is what im really lookin at i think..but i dont know bout the mountable light?

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-VIXIA-AV...1150207&sr=1-7

 

5D mk II

 

You said you wanted a camera without a disc and then the link you posted is for a hard drive based camcorder. Since you said disc and not disk, I assume you mean that you do not want a camera that records directly to optical media?

 

sony or panasonic for your consumer camcorder. never been a canon fan for video.

 

i dont want a DVD type. hard drive is good.

 

Setting video formats (HDV vs. AVCHD) aside for the moment, is there any particular reason you don't want a flash based camera? Relatively speaking, hard drives are fragile and make the cameras larger.

 

Stick to a low res camera. You don't look as good as you think you do while you're doing what you want to do.

 

When was the last time you used a Canon HD camcorder?

Links to reviews speaking unfavorably of Canon HD camcorders? Because every review I read seem to like them. In some cases more than the others.

Not saying they're the best just getting tired of you saying the same thing in every camcorder thread without backing it up.

EDIT: And 10 new Camcorders from Canon announced today.

http://www.usa.canon.com/templatedat...amcorders.html

 

I shot a little short on a Canon HV20 and the fucker drove me up a wall.

I just have personally never been a huge fan of canon video....though they are better than they were a few years ago.

When was the time you used a Nikon to shoot stills?

 

Show me one post where I disparaged a Nikon, Olympus, Sony etc product?

I'll be the first to tell you that my Canon Standard def camcorder is the meh. But from the reviews I've read, they seem to be right up there with everyone else when it comes to HD.

 

Which raises the larger point that we're starting the run up to CES so there's likely to be many product announcements and possibly some price drops on current models come mid to late Spring.

BTW, I found it somewhat interesting that Canon stuck with HDV for their flagship HV40 model. I guess they got the message that they pissed off a lot of people when they left the HV20 in the dust while updating everything else.

 

Delta, my in-laws have the Canon you posted, though I'm not sure if its the same model, but it is a Vixia HD. I can't comment on it since I never used it, but they seem to love it. As always, try before you buy to be sure.

 

It would be nice if you could rent them to see their differences first hand.

 

You guys have no idea (or maybe you do) how much more reliable flash is than everything else.

 

i guess i asked for it...but u guys make everything so complicated.

i dont need specifics,i just wanted to know whats good for the buck in 1080

 

the reason i like the canon i showed was cause it has an external SD slot which is nice..its not tiny...because i have banana hands..it has an hdmi port and its full 1080 with a large internal HD

 

I have the Canon HF100 which is the same camera as the HF10 w/o the built-in internal flash memory. I can get about one hour's worth of video on an 8GB SDHC card. The image quality in moderate to bright light is very good. Things get pretty noisy pretty quick though in dim to low light. As for cost, 6ave currently has this camera for $530. On the size front, the HF10 is very small but not too small. Here it is next to my Canon 24-70 f/2.8 lens.



Note: before deciding anything you should really make a commitment to how important editing is to you. AVCHD video requires significantly more in the way of computer resources for editing than HDV video does.

 

i dont care about editing video...its only gonna be for home videos nothing special...but if im going to buy one im going to get something with good resolution u kno..

i know nothing about editing video and i really dont have any interest like i do with still photo.

^that cam is a decent size...its not like old vhs over the shoulder lol.

i think im more than likely gonna get this canon after reading more on it.

also the only other thing ill use this cam for is doing rolling vids of the car meets and whatnot...

 

doesnt that require editing video? What are the specs on your computer? I dont have a 1080 HD camcorder myself but I can assume its quite taxing on your computer.

 

The method which a camera uses to compresses HD video (e.g. HDV vs. AVCHD) has much more to do with how taxing editing is on a computer than the basic resolution of the footage.

 

i like that u can get still frames from the video n shit..thats all..ill figure it out when it comes in the mail.


i ended up buying the cam i posted above with a 32BG SDHC card.

im sure no matter what ill be happy with it.

ill keep u guys posted for sure. i should get it by monday (my bday)

 

Word of advice. Consider shooting with multiple 4 GB cards. You know how you can stick a data CDROM with JPGs in a regular DVD player and most of them will read the disc and show you the pictures? Well many Blu-Ray players will do the same thing with AVCHD files right out of the camcorder.

If you shoot your video on a 4GB card, you can take what's on your card, burn that to a regular 4 GB data DVD, stick that regular DVD-R disc in your Blu-Ray player and watch your footage in all it's hi-def glory.

You obviously need a Blu-Ray player that supports AVCHD but many do. You may also need to do a little tweaking of the folder structure when you make the data DVD but it takes like two minutes and literally involves nothing more than just creating or (re)moving some folders in the correct place.

 

^that makes alot of sense...but its a little late for u to tell me since i bought the 32GB lol


but i have 3 4GB sdhc's anyway...

i have a ps3,i dont know if that supports AVCHD,so this is another new ave for me.

also,i have to get some DVD software cause my laptop dosent have any software for burning since i had to re install all the new drivers and XP

 

i dont know if its common or not for these camcorders but this one has a HDMI output so i can plug and play directly to the tv from the cam...so that was one of the things i liked about it.

 

You're probably going to need a mini-HDMI to HDMI cable. Fortunately monoprice has these at a reasonable cost.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10242

 

i had no idea they made these lol

 

Mini Advanced Accessory Terminal
The Advanced Accessory Shoe allows the use of additional accessories such as Canon's video light and directional microphone. Compared with Canon’s original Advanced Accessory Shoe, the new version is 50% smaller in size.

 

Actually that's a definite :thumbsdow

The only things you can put in that shoe are Canon's own proprietary accessories. If you want to use any other accessories that are made by the rest of the world, then you have to purchase a third party adapter or try to make one yourself.

 

well they have the canon video light,which im cool with,but the 100$ price tag is a little rediculous for such a low output light with no external battery source.

this might sound a little stuck up i guess but,i prefer to stick with canon products and accessories even if its a little more money...i guess im the kind of person to find a brand i like and be faithful to it and not venture off.

 

billiam..

is there a way to burn my footage to blue ray disc? (if its larger than 4gb)

and also,if i do the data burn on a reg cd-r,will it be 1080 still or only 720?

i thought reg dvd's only supported 480.


also,i was checking out the canon dvd/camcorder burner,plug in and burn,seemed pretty cool to me. but i just like gadgets lol

 

i decided to get this cam instead of a 24-105 lens,so im hopping i wont regret it lol...

it just postponed my purchase of the lens,since it was a bday gift from my parents,i had the choice of either or,so whichever i didnt buy id have to buy with my own money eventually.

 

When I got really back into photography I also bought a HDcamcorder, just about two years this month. I have used the camcorder three times. I just shoot more stills, I can do more with them.

 

well i have a navy wife and a 2 year old son.

theres alot to be captured on video over stills,especialy for my wife.

now she wont miss my sons first real sentance,and anything else that changes..like counting or reading or anything like that...

she missed his first steps,and his first word,and the first time he counted with his fingers.

so,this is def going to be good,now i can make dvds and send them to her over seas.

 

The burning to disc stuff that I was mentioning before isn't really analogous to watching a movie off of a Blu-Ray or regular DVD disc. If you have BDP that supports playback of AVCHD, then it's really just that device playing back data files it knows how to deal with. It doesn't matter what the medium is or what's capacity is. The BDP just needs to be able to read the files and folders. In this sense you're looking to use a 4GB DVD recordable disc as data disc, not as a DVD video/movie disc. For this reason there are no limitations to the resolution of the video.

The article below is probably somewhat dated by now but it really made things click form me when I read it. Give it a shot and you'll realize that AVCHD is essentially just a watered down version of Blu-Ray.
http://www.elurauser.com/articles/avchd_to_bluray.jsp

BTW - The camcorder forum over at AVS is what turned me on to all this stuff.

 

its blu-ray

if you burn a cd as data, then whatever the video resolution will be whatever the file is. Although I'd imagine you cant fit that long of a 1080 video onto a CD-R.

DVD movies only support 480, but thats entirely different. You're using CDR/DVDR's as a data storage device so as long as the file is under 700mb/4.7GB, then you're ok to store the file onto that disc.

 

if you have a PS3 cant you just encode the HD video and then stream it to the ps3 via tversity or something?

I know with my 360 I can stream HD via tversity but it has to be WMVHD, not sure what format it is for the PS3.

 

It requires a lot more horsepower to decompress AVC encoded video than it does for the "computer formats" such as Windows Media or DivX. Even setting that aside, you have to take into acount the bitrate of the video. The Canon camera we're talking about uses ~17 Mb/s so you'd need at least that much bandwidth for streaming (I think).

 

Wow i just took in alot of info here... even though i was just lurking seems like you guys know your stuff.

Problem i ran into with the ps3 is it can't read nfts and only fat32 so problem there with fat32 is the file can't be bigger than 4gbs.

Thats the reason why you need go thru some tedious steps before getting bluray files to work off a zip drive or external.

 

thats why im thinking of just buying the burner,might save time and headache,its only like $160

its still not my bday and my sis said shes gonna buy me cam stuff for my bday so well see.