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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 12:43 AM
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Getting up to speed

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/haycon/2424829770/" title="Getting up to speed by haycon, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2099/2424829770_c526075c99_o.jpg" width="669" height="1000" alt="Getting up to speed" /></a>

Get the title?

D200@5fps and the D300@8fps

Also

Reading is getting up to speed with things.

*silence* *cricket* *cricket* *cricket*
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 12:53 AM
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very cool
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 01:21 AM
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sweet pics.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 01:35 AM
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Its also a speed light right? Hehe
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 02:08 AM
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Way cool!
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:37 AM
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nice. shoot it again and this time bounce a little light onto the book cover...not a lot, maybe another 1/3 to 1/2 stop.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:56 AM
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nice. shoot it again and this time bounce a little light onto the book cover...not a lot, maybe another 1/3 to 1/2 stop.
You're a tool.....
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 04:04 AM
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You're a tool.....
Says the mr.mom husband who gets no sex
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 08:04 AM
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Says the mr.mom husband who gets no sex

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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 08:05 AM
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Meh, I expected a better comeback...
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by wackjum
Its also a speed light right? Hehe
Yup! Nice catch. I tried to make it look like a lamp, but still make it known it was a flash.

Originally Posted by Sarlacc
nice. shoot it again and this time bounce a little light onto the book cover...not a lot, maybe another 1/3 to 1/2 stop.
Actually you are right about the book. I couldn't light it any more. I only had two strobes with me. One from behind the camera looking down. Another was pointed at the visible flash so you can read the markings of the SB-800. I used a bounce in front of the book to get as much light back as I could. Without the bounce, you really couldn't see the front of the book at all. I really wish I had a third flash. Time to save up again.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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Dude...you should seriously make Nikon ads. haha Your other picture was awesome and this is no less outstanding! Major props!
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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Nice shot, I think it would have been funny to have the D200 reading the D300 manual.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Well executed. I wouldn't change a thing!
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Nice shot, I think it would have been funny to have the D200 reading the D300 manual.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ConradE46
Yup! Nice catch. I tried to make it look like a lamp, but still make it known it was a flash.



Actually you are right about the book. I couldn't light it any more. I only had two strobes with me. One from behind the camera looking down. Another was pointed at the visible flash so you can read the markings of the SB-800. I used a bounce in front of the book to get as much light back as I could. Without the bounce, you really couldn't see the front of the book at all. I really wish I had a third flash. Time to save up again.
Nah you dont need a 3rd flash. go to your local craft store and get some white foam board.

Youre at a point where you are doing some heavy experimenting...this is where you get to be really creative.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Well executed. I wouldn't change a thing!
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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the shot is great - if you added any more light to the book cover it would lose its feel and emotion.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Great and creative shot.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
the shot is great - if you added any more light to the book cover it would lose its feel and emotion.
No it wouldnt. The book cover is "just" a wee tad underexposed. Its needs a little bit more light.

Hell, he could take it into photoshop and just up that one area a hair if he wanted.

I'm not knocking the photo, its great. But that would be my one tiny criticism.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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the book is lit just enough to be seen and the text read. that's all it needs. it's not the focus of the shot.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
the book is lit just enough to be seen and the text read. that's all it needs. it's not the focus of the shot.
It is partially a focus point. You want to know what the camera is reading, so you want to be able to clearly read the cover of the book without squinting. the text can be seen, but not well.

Plus, in a photo of that nature its about balance. Any areas of brighter exposure are all at the top of the image. The cover of the book needs a little more just to balance out the composition.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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does it look really dark on your screen?
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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It must be a monitor issue because I can read even the fine print on the back cover of the book.

In any photo, you want to have a natural path for your eyes to follow. By nature, your eyes will focus on the highest contrast part of a scene first and then flow to the next most contrasty part. In this case, the flash is the first thing your eyes will see, then they follow a nice path down to the camera and finally ending on the D300 text on the front cover.

A little more fill might help, but I'd err on the side of caution here because you don't want to brighten it up too much so that it competes with the camera for your eye's attention.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
does it look really dark on your screen?
Its not dark on my screen, but in reality, with all the different types of monitors and screen settings, how can we even compare.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
Its not dark on my screen, but in reality, with all the different types of monitors and screen settings, how can we even compare.
by testing with various monitors and computers
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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by testing with various monitors and computers
Yes, and each one doesn't get an accurate representation of the photo...
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
It must be a monitor issue because I can read even the fine print on the back cover of the book.

In any photo, you want to have a natural path for your eyes to follow. By nature, your eyes will focus on the highest contrast part of a scene first and then flow to the next most contrasty part. In this case, the flash is the first thing your eyes will see, then they follow a nice path down to the camera and finally ending on the D300 text on the front cover.

A little more fill might help, but I'd err on the side of caution here because you don't want to brighten it up too much so that it competes with the camera for your eye's attention.
Its not a monitor issue. I can see everything just fine. I can read the same thing you can read.

I only recommend a tad more light on the cover. Like you said err on the side of caution because a big white book can go nuclear quick if you arent careful, but I just feel it needs a bit more light.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
Yes, and each one doesn't get an accurate representation of the photo...
Generally speaking, we can get a somewhat "standard" representation. But there will be exceptions, which is why I asked whether it looked dark on his screen, which he said it doesn't. so it looks like it's come down to a matter of personal preference.

And there's also various monitor calibration softwares that aid in this dilemma.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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I also can barely read the user manual, so I vote for brightening it.

But that was an excellent point raised about how everyone sees pictures differently.
There's that lovely combination of calibration, screen contrast/brightness, and ambient light,
that you have no control over.

So opinions/points should be taken with a grain of salt.
I tend to like pictures that are darker, or have high contrast.
But they look quite different when I view at home, or in the office.

I've kind of reluctantly sucked it up, and decided to make my picture so that I like
it at home, and if other people find it odd, oh well. Like if someone has a glare protector over their monitor, it makes everything super dark. etc. Including the fact that my online pics are resized smaller, I think there's a lot of diminishing gains with heavy post processing when just posting pics on the web.
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