C&P Random Thread -
saw this on Facebook today, thought it was worth sharing. While some of it is inaccurate, I think it's still worth sharing.
10 Reasons Professional Photographers Charge What They Do
10. Professional photographers are in business, and as a business, need to make a profit. Because they make it their career, they dedicate themselves to becoming the best they can be, and share that knowledge with their clientele.
9. Professional photographers have to buy professional equipment. Nope, they don't just pick up a point-and-shoot from Wal-Mart and declare themselves a professional. They spend thousands upon thousands of dollars getting multiple camera bodies, the finest lenses, flash equipment for every situation, tripods, light stands, backdrops, props, carrying and storage cases. And then when you think you have it all - you need to get backups for everything to make sure you never miss an image.
8. Professional photographers continue their education, and learn as much as they can about the business. They join groups like Professional Photographers of America or the National Press Photographers Association. They attend seminars and training by some of the best names in the business. They concentrate on becoming the best they can be.
7. Professional photographers don't just snap a picture, they create a photograph. They understand positioning. They understand lighting. They understand placement. You're not just paying for the ability to place a finger on the trigger and snap a picture. You're paying for the years of experience it took to create the perfect image.
6. Professional photographers can spend hours producing one professional photograph. Time can include:
* creating the marketing
* answering emails and phone calls
* meeting with the client to talk about the event
* setting up for the event
* drive time to and from the event
* time for the actual photographing
* running to and from the lab
* meeting with the client for previews and decisions
* processing the image
* retouching the image
* mounting the image
* framing the image
* packaging the image
* dropping off final images
* production work
* follow up work
Add it all up, and you can see why one portrait session may include hours worth of work. It's impossible to stay in business if you only make a few pennies per client.
5. Professional photographers have to be more than photographers. They have to be CEOs and marketers, and bankers, and salespeople, and production workers, and janitors, and buyers, and negotiators, and networkers, and drivers, and organizers. And photographers. That's a lot of skills for one person to master.
4. Professional photographers will do it all. Want to get married at the top of a 14,000 foot high mountain, where the only way up is a 30 minute ski-lift ride? A professional photographer will be there. Want a portrait running through the waves on a Southern California beach? A professional photographer will be there.
3. Professional photographers aren't just order takers, they provide total customer service. Professionals photograph dozens or even hundreds of clients a year. They understand what looks good, how to put together albums, and how to group multiple photographs together. Their goal is to provide you with what you need and what's best for you - not just have you sign on the dotted line.
2. Professional photographers watch for the newest, most innovative, creative products available. They stay up to date on industry news, and find things that perfectly match their clients taste. They don't try and fit you into something you don't like - they find out what you want and search the world over for the perfect things. They are the professional.
1. Professional photographers have the knowledge and the skill to make you look the best you can be. I can buy a hammer for a few dollars at the hardware store. Yet I spent hundreds of dollars for a handyman to repair my deck. I can buy a needle and thread for a few dollars at the fabric store. Yet I spent over $100 on alterations at a local tailor. It's not about the tools; it's about the outcome.
Sure, anyone can buy a camera and take a picture. You can head down to your local discount store, wait several hours and have a minimum wage clerk place you on an X and snap a few pictures. But they can't get what a professional can get. They won't concentrate on expressions. They won't advise you on outfits and locations. They won't provide 110 percent customer service. You won't get a professional portrait.
10. Professional photographers are in business, and as a business, need to make a profit. Because they make it their career, they dedicate themselves to becoming the best they can be, and share that knowledge with their clientele.
9. Professional photographers have to buy professional equipment. Nope, they don't just pick up a point-and-shoot from Wal-Mart and declare themselves a professional. They spend thousands upon thousands of dollars getting multiple camera bodies, the finest lenses, flash equipment for every situation, tripods, light stands, backdrops, props, carrying and storage cases. And then when you think you have it all - you need to get backups for everything to make sure you never miss an image.
8. Professional photographers continue their education, and learn as much as they can about the business. They join groups like Professional Photographers of America or the National Press Photographers Association. They attend seminars and training by some of the best names in the business. They concentrate on becoming the best they can be.
7. Professional photographers don't just snap a picture, they create a photograph. They understand positioning. They understand lighting. They understand placement. You're not just paying for the ability to place a finger on the trigger and snap a picture. You're paying for the years of experience it took to create the perfect image.
6. Professional photographers can spend hours producing one professional photograph. Time can include:
* creating the marketing
* answering emails and phone calls
* meeting with the client to talk about the event
* setting up for the event
* drive time to and from the event
* time for the actual photographing
* running to and from the lab
* meeting with the client for previews and decisions
* processing the image
* retouching the image
* mounting the image
* framing the image
* packaging the image
* dropping off final images
* production work
* follow up work
Add it all up, and you can see why one portrait session may include hours worth of work. It's impossible to stay in business if you only make a few pennies per client.
5. Professional photographers have to be more than photographers. They have to be CEOs and marketers, and bankers, and salespeople, and production workers, and janitors, and buyers, and negotiators, and networkers, and drivers, and organizers. And photographers. That's a lot of skills for one person to master.
4. Professional photographers will do it all. Want to get married at the top of a 14,000 foot high mountain, where the only way up is a 30 minute ski-lift ride? A professional photographer will be there. Want a portrait running through the waves on a Southern California beach? A professional photographer will be there.
3. Professional photographers aren't just order takers, they provide total customer service. Professionals photograph dozens or even hundreds of clients a year. They understand what looks good, how to put together albums, and how to group multiple photographs together. Their goal is to provide you with what you need and what's best for you - not just have you sign on the dotted line.
2. Professional photographers watch for the newest, most innovative, creative products available. They stay up to date on industry news, and find things that perfectly match their clients taste. They don't try and fit you into something you don't like - they find out what you want and search the world over for the perfect things. They are the professional.
1. Professional photographers have the knowledge and the skill to make you look the best you can be. I can buy a hammer for a few dollars at the hardware store. Yet I spent hundreds of dollars for a handyman to repair my deck. I can buy a needle and thread for a few dollars at the fabric store. Yet I spent over $100 on alterations at a local tailor. It's not about the tools; it's about the outcome.
Sure, anyone can buy a camera and take a picture. You can head down to your local discount store, wait several hours and have a minimum wage clerk place you on an X and snap a few pictures. But they can't get what a professional can get. They won't concentrate on expressions. They won't advise you on outfits and locations. They won't provide 110 percent customer service. You won't get a professional portrait.
That is true with a lot of what is listed, but some of the pro's get to bent out of shape with this stuff. There are many "jobs" that other professionals do that don't get bent out of shape as a pro photographer does. I've fixed people computers, cars, small appliances, homes, so many more could be mentioned. But what I do it good enough for what someone wants.
Photography is one field that scares me to try as mentioned above. I just shot my kids baseball game, I got many, many pats on the back for what I produced. Having someone pay me to do so, again scares me.
Photography is one field that scares me to try as mentioned above. I just shot my kids baseball game, I got many, many pats on the back for what I produced. Having someone pay me to do so, again scares me.
the way I saw it, it's exactly what it says, its reasons why it can cost so much to get a photographer or purchase pictures. its some "ammo" in case anyone ever questions your rates.
Those are stunning. I even recognized two places (I think). Sunset Crater and the Barry Goldwater AF Range.
how do you guys think i should sell my 40D?
the issue is that its starting to develop that shutter issue that every XXD has issues with.

i was thinking maybe just posting it for cheap and as is on POTN. or maybe sell it used to BH
the issue is that its starting to develop that shutter issue that every XXD has issues with.

i was thinking maybe just posting it for cheap and as is on POTN. or maybe sell it used to BH
its an issue that since the body isnt fully weather sealed that dust, dirt and stuff can get between the contacts of the shutter button preventing it from triggering properly.
there are a couple of fixes on the internet, i could either take apart the camera and clean it :thumbsdow , use some electrical contact cleaner on it, blow into it with compressed gas (might not fix it) or send it to canon (read that its expensive)
there are a couple of fixes on the internet, i could either take apart the camera and clean it :thumbsdow , use some electrical contact cleaner on it, blow into it with compressed gas (might not fix it) or send it to canon (read that its expensive)
hmm..
http://www.adorama.com/Als/ProductPage/CSCLCBCT.html
PRODUCT DETAILS
Manufactured by:
Cloak
Mfg Part No:
CB01B
Adorama SKU:
CSCLCBCT
UPC No:
837654982150
Shipping Weight:
0.7 pounds
Dimensions (W x H x D):
12.20" 1.70" 6.90" / 31.0 x 4.3 x 17.5mm
The Cloak Bag is the world's first shoot-through camera bag that allows a user with a DSLR or SLR camera to take photos without removing the camera from the safety of the bag. It's the perfect fit for travelers or any photographer who has missed a shot simply because the camera was left in the bag. The Cloak Bag has been designed to fit the majority of popular SLR bodies.
http://www.adorama.com/Als/ProductPage/CSCLCBCT.html
PRODUCT DETAILS
Manufactured by:
Cloak
Mfg Part No:
CB01B
Adorama SKU:
CSCLCBCT
UPC No:
837654982150
Shipping Weight:
0.7 pounds
Dimensions (W x H x D):
12.20" 1.70" 6.90" / 31.0 x 4.3 x 17.5mm
The Cloak Bag is the world's first shoot-through camera bag that allows a user with a DSLR or SLR camera to take photos without removing the camera from the safety of the bag. It's the perfect fit for travelers or any photographer who has missed a shot simply because the camera was left in the bag. The Cloak Bag has been designed to fit the majority of popular SLR bodies.
My first wedding job went well this weekend! Didn't damage any of my camera gear and was not nervous at all during any part of it. I did want to drop kick a few people during the reception for getting right in front of me with their cameras while trying to do my job though.
Now I just have to PP them and get a few posted on here.
Now I just have to PP them and get a few posted on here.
This is in the edition of Photoshop User magazine I just received.
I'm pretty sure if that happened to me I would never know if my camera still worked OK... because I would be dead from heart failure.
When out walking, I bent down to take a picture and an off-leash dog came by. His head got caught in the looped shoulder strap that was hanging down and he snapped the camera out of my hands. For 30 seconds the pooch ran the camera through muddy puddles and over rocks before I could catch up with him. Bottom line: Except for a few scratches, the M9 “took the licking and kept on ticking” and resumed performing perfectly as if nothing had happened.
this is a designer concept design of a Nikon D4x. I think it would be curious to see Canon or Nikon change the classic "SLR" body style and offer something more along the lines of this, more like a Hasselblad or other similar camera..
http://nikonrumors.com/2010/05/18/ni...n-concept.aspx
http://nikonrumors.com/2010/05/18/ni...n-concept.aspx
Nikon D4x (design concept)
By [NR] admin | <abbr title="2010-05-18T09:03:14-0400" class="published">May 18, 2010</abbr>
Industrial Designer Marc Levinson created a Nikon D4x concept (click on image for larger view):



See more Nikon concepts here.
More pictures after the break:


By [NR] admin | <abbr title="2010-05-18T09:03:14-0400" class="published">May 18, 2010</abbr>
Industrial Designer Marc Levinson created a Nikon D4x concept (click on image for larger view):



See more Nikon concepts here.
More pictures after the break:


I don't see how that's ergonomically better... 
btw... I kinda got a last minute invite to attend a wedding this Saturday... I don't know the couple... but the friend that I'm going with, said I can practice shooting weddings there (which is the only reason why I'm going).
I ordered a bounce card ("A Better Bounce Card")... but I kinda had the Gary Fong lightsphere in mind too... do you guys think I picked the right one?

btw... I kinda got a last minute invite to attend a wedding this Saturday... I don't know the couple... but the friend that I'm going with, said I can practice shooting weddings there (which is the only reason why I'm going).
I ordered a bounce card ("A Better Bounce Card")... but I kinda had the Gary Fong lightsphere in mind too... do you guys think I picked the right one?
Seems very confusing to me. It's making the pages for stuff like about, contact, etc.. that is driving me crazy. So far I've read that you create a new gallery, add a photo, then set it for journal view and add text. After that is done, link the navigation button to that gallery.
Is that what you did for your site?
Is that what you did for your site?
Yes, I wish they made that easier. I understand you can also make html-only pages, but I'm not a programmer and haven't ventured there yet. Be sure you use the old Journal style (there's a new one now) if you want cascading photos on alternating sides of the page.
You can skip the step of creating a new gallery first if you select "add photos" from your home page and choose "new gallery."
I love that you can have something useable to post and sell photos "out of the box" with smugmug, but figuring out some of the intricacies took me forever. I'm not a programmer, nor am I particularly savvy about how websites work, so it's been a learning process for sure. hdcolumbus has a site that he customized very nicely - I'm sure he'd be happy to help with the more involved questions, too. I've spent lots and lots and lots of time reading on dgrin. :/
You can skip the step of creating a new gallery first if you select "add photos" from your home page and choose "new gallery."
I love that you can have something useable to post and sell photos "out of the box" with smugmug, but figuring out some of the intricacies took me forever. I'm not a programmer, nor am I particularly savvy about how websites work, so it's been a learning process for sure. hdcolumbus has a site that he customized very nicely - I'm sure he'd be happy to help with the more involved questions, too. I've spent lots and lots and lots of time reading on dgrin. :/
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Yea I agree this is what i got so far with the help of a friend
www.Jeffreyliuphotography.com
nothing crazy but wanted it to keep it clean.
www.Jeffreyliuphotography.com
nothing crazy but wanted it to keep it clean.
Yea I agree this is what i got so far with the help of a friend
www.Jeffreyliuphotography.com
nothing crazy but wanted it to keep it clean.
www.Jeffreyliuphotography.com
nothing crazy but wanted it to keep it clean.
You have a few typographical errors in your About section, though. I only point it out because that kind of thing puts me off when I'm looking for services.









Congrats - can't wait to see them!
