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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:00 AM
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since its for 1 light (im assuming) i might as well get a 2 head dynalite kit for 1300
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
600+ ?
well dunno yet. hoping its around 300 or so but probably not.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
since its for 1 light (im assuming) i might as well get a 2 head dynalite kit for 1300
Well reading the thread it will have more power than a 600ex and since you can't find a Sunpak 120J unless its used. its supposed to replace it.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:04 AM
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yea i know. but if its 300-400. then i may think about it too. although 150W is quite low.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
yea i know. but if its 300-400. then i may think about it too. although 150W is quite low.
but for portablity its great. kinda the in between of regular hotshoe flashes and going up to the alienbee range.

if you look closely, you don't need to even buy a umbrella bracket because there is a holder on the flash.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:09 AM
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$300 and @150w? unless that includes the battery pack, I'd rather get an Alienbees B800 That's double the power and faster cycling rate
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:11 AM
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thats how i feel too.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by is300eater
$300 and @150w? unless that includes the battery pack, I'd rather get an Alienbees B800
alienbees are heavier though. unless you got it in your lowepro stroller bag,
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:12 AM
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but hopefully there will be more support on portable barebulb flashes. but ill keep an eye on it for the actual price.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:14 AM
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yea i subscribed to the thread.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by asianspec
alienbees are heavier though. unless you got it in your lowepro stroller bag,
I guess... but the one thing that Paul C Buff's stuff are 2nd to none is the reliability and customer service. This, being a new product, I wouldn't jump on it until here's some real testimonies out there.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Newest-GODOX...item4abfb34ec9

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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:20 PM
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yikes, power pack NOT included at that price.

same with the umbrella holder.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:22 PM
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power packs are cheap - the one I have was $30-40
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by srika


power packs are cheap - the one I have was $30-40
but would that work with it, is the question.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:28 PM
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
but would that work with it, is the question.
well with the right cable it should.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:41 PM
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wow this is just what I need...

http://flashhavoc.com/godox-propac-pb960/
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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$200 for that by itself. at least on ebay

with how much you use your flash, yea you need it
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse


damn I wonder how this performs!!

finally an alternative to the 580's!
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:56 PM
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keep in mind it is a bare bulb flash, so you will need modifiers.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 09:00 PM
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agreed
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 09:30 PM
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I understand it's more portable than a typical monolight... but at what point would you want to spend the money on this vs just using a speedlite... yes, it's probably more powerful than speedlites but then again... how often do you need the full power of a speedlite? IMO... if you really need that much power, I would think it's cheaper to just get some Yongnuo 560's and perhaps using a DIY bracket like this:



having multiple speedlites also allows you to use them in multiple lights setups.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by is300eater
I understand it's more portable than a typical monolight... but at what point would you want to spend the money on this vs just using a speedlite... yes, it's probably more powerful than speedlites but then again... how often do you need the full power of a speedlite? IMO... if you really need that much power, I would think it's cheaper to just get some Yongnuo 560's and perhaps using a DIY bracket like this:



having multiple speedlites also allows you to use them in multiple lights setups.
somebody really wants to acheive F/11 cheapest way possible in one spot.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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but even then a used AB B800 would probably cheaper than that.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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I'm primarily thinking about something to carry around at the club that I won't have to worry about flash and recycle time anymore. No way I'd want to carry a DIY clunky contraption like that around. And also I'd absolutely positively LOVE not having to worry about AA batteries anymore. As far as why you would need that? The extra power can come in handy in dark areas, it will let you shoot at a tighter aperture so you can get better group shots, for instance.

And remember the top of the line Canon and Nikon flashes are right around 500 or so, and those don't include battery packs.

I will be keeping an eye on this flash.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 09:43 PM
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Yea can't wait to see some pics with a barebulb setup from your club.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
And remember the top of the line Canon and Nikon flashes are right around 500 or so, and those don't include battery packs.
yeah, but I was referring to Yongnuo's which has gotten pretty good reviews and I've seen a LOT of people using them. They are like $60 a pop

but whatever, I guess it just depends on what people are using it for. In you scenario, it would make more sense, NOT having to deal with AA batteries. But for on location shoots, IMO... just buying a bunch of Yongnuo's would work fine, and again... having a bunch of them also allows you to do multiple light setups (again, it might not be your thing, I'm just sayin')
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by asianspec
somebody really wants to acheive F/11 cheapest way possible in one spot.
well, this DIY can be done with just 2 units as well. And that 4 light DIY can probably do f/22... (seriously)
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by is300eater
yeah, but I was referring to Yongnuo's which has gotten pretty good reviews and I've seen a LOT of people using them. They are like $60 a pop

but whatever, I guess it just depends on what people are using it for. In you scenario, it would make more sense, NOT having to deal with AA batteries. But for on location shoots, IMO... just buying a bunch of Yongnuo's would work fine, and again... having a bunch of them also allows you to do multiple light setups (again, it might not be your thing, I'm just sayin')
I have a YN-560. and its not bad. just keep it off-camera. they also have a battery pack but its not really a battery pack. just 8AA pack.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by is300eater
well, this DIY can be done with just 2 units as well. And that 4 light DIY can probably do f/22... (seriously)
maybe so, it will suck with the AA batteries. looks like 16 batteries are being used.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by asianspec
maybe so, it will suck with the AA batteries. looks like 16 batteries are being used.
right, that's assuming that YOU would actually need a setup like that... Seriously, when was the last time you needed that much power? (YOU personally). Oh, and 16 AA rechargeable batteries is like $20-$30 these days.

again, I'm not dissin' this product, but I'm just sayin' depending on what you shoot, and how you're going to be using it for... it'd might not be the best route for everyone.

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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 10:21 PM
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Something like that. Lol. I don't think I would do that. If I had to I would just bump up my iso to achieve f/22 if I were trying to achieve that
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 10:31 PM
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yikes, from this site

http://flashhavoc.com/cheetah-cl-180-released/

Cheetah Stand have not released prices just yet, though early listings of the similar Godox units on Ebay suggest around $570 – $600 for the flash and Lithium battery pack (the pack alone is worth around $200)


edit: Oops, I guess it was already mentioned
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 10:41 PM
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lol
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
I'm primarily thinking about something to carry around at the club that I won't have to worry about flash and recycle time anymore. No way I'd want to carry a DIY clunky contraption like that around. And also I'd absolutely positively LOVE not having to worry about AA batteries anymore. As far as why you would need that? The extra power can come in handy in dark areas, it will let you shoot at a tighter aperture so you can get better group shots, for instance.

And remember the top of the line Canon and Nikon flashes are right around 500 or so, and those don't include battery packs.

I will be keeping an eye on this flash.


there is still a recycle time. then again, i doubt you'll be popping at full power which then its 2.6 seconds to recycle.

and i doubt you would shoot more than 75 shots consecutively before the thermal protection kicks in.

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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 02:01 AM
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btw that lithium ion power pack can work with your 580ex II.
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse


there is still a recycle time. then again, i doubt you'll be popping at full power which then its 2.6 seconds to recycle.

and i doubt you would shoot more than 75 shots consecutively before the thermal protection kicks in.

i.e. it will be a good bit of overkill for my purposes. and that, is good. I rather by overprepared than under.
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btw that lithium ion power pack can work with your 580ex II.
yeah I will probably get it anyway, regardless of if I get that flash.
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 02:08 AM
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i can just picture you walking around the club with this thing mounted to your hot shoe and a giant softbox attached to it
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 02:09 AM
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ill wait for the cheetah brand or so to price it. hopefully it will be a bit cheaper?

then again still on the fence about if i even want those.
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