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biker 08-23-2011 09:10 AM

http://www.toyota.com/newcamry/

Official reveal at 1PM EST.

biker 08-23-2011 12:54 PM

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...a_camry_drive/

biker 08-23-2011 12:58 PM

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...ive/index.html

biker 08-23-2011 01:00 PM


The 2012 Camry's single biggest improvement is its interior. Rather than an exercise in computer-aided ergonomics, the cabin's styling looks as though it was created by a human -- a stylist, even -- able to convince the bean counters to splurge a little. There's an unnecessary, but hugely welcome, band of contrasting thread stitched into the Camry's attractive, horizontally themed upper dash. The center stack pours down over the middle of the dashboard, riding atop the rest of the soft-touch material. It feels several classes richer than the last Camry's cabin, and the elegant styling sacrifices nothing in terms of usability.


Moreover, the Camry's liquid-butter driving experience is better than ever. Road and wind noise are noticeably reduced, and the overall structure feels more rigid, with less impact noise and apparent chassis flex over big bumps. The improvements come despite a significant weight loss (about 110 pounds versus last year's Camry) and additional equipment, including three more air bags, for a total of ten. The only evidence of weight (or cost) savings we could find is that the Camry now has but one automatic power window -- all four of last year's windows had auto up/down.


The powertrains -- a 2.5-liter four-cylinder and a 3.5-liter V-6, both mated to a six-speed automatic -- carry over with slight revisions (including incrementally taller final-drive ratios) that have resulted in dramatic improvements in fuel economy. The 268-hp V-6 model is expected to score EPA ratings of 21 mpg in the city and 30 mpg on the highway, which equal the four-cylinder Camry of a couple years ago and nearly match the Sonata's 2.0-liter turbo four. The new four-cylinder Camry, meanwhile, jumps to the top of the class with expected 25/35 mpg ratings.
Cutting 110 lbs is quite impressive.

yohan81718 08-23-2011 01:02 PM

i guess it's one of those "it will sell.. but i don't like it"

JS + XES 08-23-2011 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by biker (Post 13182585)
Cutting 110 lbs is quite impressive.

very impressive indeed

umakemekissu 08-23-2011 02:49 PM

man doesn't it looks like 4G TSX

Flipster23 08-23-2011 02:57 PM

I dont like it.

phile 08-23-2011 06:17 PM

I like the news about the improvements in interior quality. at least Toyota caught on that people are noticing their cost cutting and resolved it.

biker 08-23-2011 06:30 PM

http://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehic.../full/ext1.jpg

biker 08-23-2011 06:35 PM

Prices:
L - 21,995
LE - 22.500 - includes a 6.1" touchscreen
SE - 23,000 - has some very interesting fabric for upholstery
XLE - 24,725
LE hybrid - 25,900
XLE hybrid - 27,400

No more MT available - 6AT across the lineup

biker 08-23-2011 06:39 PM

Toyota did enough to keep its best selling status.

phile 08-23-2011 06:59 PM

i wouldn't mind owning an SE at all after seeing these pics

biker 08-23-2011 07:25 PM

http://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehic.../full/int6.jpg

biker 08-23-2011 07:26 PM

^ SE model - that's a lot of bolstering for a pedestrian Toyota.

LuvMyTSX 08-23-2011 08:15 PM

Yuck. The rear end is horrible.

SHYUperman 08-23-2011 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by phile (Post 13183595)
i wouldn't mind owning an SE at all after seeing these pics

+2.

My wife had the previous gen SE. The interior is definitely improved. Glad to see that Toyota is listening and making improvements to the Camry to make it competitive.

Interested to see what Honda is going to do with the Accord.

ostrich 08-23-2011 11:01 PM

Once again, Toyota has beaten everyone else to provide the ultimate cure for chronic insomnia!!!

I love this line from Edmunds' Inside Line: "You can see bits and pieces of various designs in the new Camry, none of them from cars known for their good looks. | August 12, 2011 |"

ROTFLOL!

Costco 08-24-2011 02:31 AM

^*looks at sig*

:bitelip:

charliemike 08-24-2011 11:08 AM

http://a3.bing.com/thumb/get?bid=cAL...mj%2b0A&fbn=CC

That's how I feel about Toyota/Honda.

ttribe 08-24-2011 11:33 AM

IMO, it looks like a larger Corolla.

JS + XES 08-24-2011 11:44 AM

^:nod:

Type34 08-24-2011 12:36 PM

http://photo.netcarshow.com/Toyota-C...2_photo_06.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Toyota-C...2_photo_12.jpg

Toyota designer, "okay, 2 scoops of last-gen Camry, 3 pinches of current-gen Corolla, and a couple dashes of current-gen TSX and viollllllaaa! A masterpiece!"

:yawn:

Sonata or Mazda6 FTW

Moog-Type-S 08-24-2011 03:43 PM

^^ Sonata and Mazda 6 are meh to odd to ugly.

Kia Optima is the best looking car in this category...bar none.

Invisible 08-24-2011 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Type34 (Post 13185431)
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Toyota-C...2_photo_06.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Toyota-C...2_photo_12.jpg

Toyota designer, "okay, 2 scoops of last-gen Camry, 3 pinches of current-gen Corolla, and a couple dashes of current-gen TSX and viollllllaaa! A masterpiece!"

:yawn:

Sonata or Mazda6 FTW

Sonata is just a nasty mess. Mazda6 for some reason doesn't offend or excite.

This new Camry looks so much cleaner and more refined. The interior looks like a nice nice upgrade.

Type34 08-25-2011 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S (Post 13186024)
^^ Sonata and Mazda 6 are meh to odd to ugly. Kia Optima is the best looking car in this category...bar none.


Originally Posted by Invisible (Post 13186024)
Sonata is just a nasty mess. Mazda6 for some reason doesn't offend or excite. This new Camry looks so much cleaner and more refined. The interior looks like a nice nice upgrade.

:scratch:
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mazda-6_...9_photo_0b.jpg

No way is this car ugly. You guys need to get out and drive these cars. Prior to selecting my 6, I drove the Sonata, Camry, Accord, and Malibu. Granted this is a new model, but none of the new Camry specs tell me it's going to be dynamically different. The Camry was by far last in this group.

is300eater 08-25-2011 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by moog-type-s (Post 13186024)

kia optima is the best looking car in this category...bar none.

+1

Costco 08-26-2011 03:16 AM

No doubt this will be more of the same... syrup filled waterbed-like ride, mind numbingly overboosted steering, porridge-like brake pedal feel, jack of all trades master of none type of car. Still, IMO it looks better than the car it replaced.

Dunno about the SE in terms of driving feel, but it's a shame that they no longer offer a manual transmission. Even more of a shame that they don't offer a Camry like this:

http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp...a-aurion-1.jpg

That's what the Aussies get.... also, they get a supercharged TRD version:

http://www.autospies.com/images/user...silver-wet.jpg

doopstr 01-09-2012 09:33 AM

Edmunds recently track tested their I4 Camry SE
http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...sted.html#more

Test Results:

Acceleration
0-30 (sec): 3.2 (3.2 w/TC on)
0-45 (sec): 5.5 (5.7 w/TC on)
0-60 (sec): 8.6 (8.8 w/TC on)
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 8.3 (8.5 w/TC on)
0-75 (sec): 12.6 (13.1 w/TC on)
1/4-Mile (sec @ mph): 16.3 @ 86.6 (16.5 @ 85.6 w/TC on)

Acceleration comments: Strong for a naturally aspirated four-cylinder, revs hard. But for some reason (perhaps our California PZEV car?), was 0.5 second slower to 60 than the last four-cylinder Camry we tested. Sport mode (with power braking) was quickest, as it lets the car rev to 6,200 rpm instead of 5,800, and shifts quickly. Manual shifting is via console lever (pull back for downshifts) or paddles. Does not hold gears to rev limiter. Sort of blips the throttle on downshifts.

Braking:
30-0 (ft): 31
60-0 (ft): 123

Braking comments: Very firm pedal and not too much ABS commotion or tire squeal. Moderate nosedive, but the rear tires would lock up enough to cause the rear to kick slightly to the right each time. First stop was 124 feet. Shortest was fifth stop at 123 feet.

Handling
Slalom (mph): 64.6 (63.9 w/TC on)
Skid Pad Lateral Acceleration (g): 0.81 (0.80 w/TC on)

Slalom comments: This is a Camry? Seriously, it's not that bad at all. Steering has some feel, even if the effort is a bit artificially heavy. Suspension has good damping and it corners pretty flat. The tires are the letdown, as they give up and start sliding pretty easily. The Camry needs to be manhandled, thrown around the cones, to reach its max time. But with ESC on, you need to be very smooth to keep the system from stabbing the brakes. Thankfully, the intervention point is pretty high.

Skid pad comments: Good steering effort around the skid pad, could actually feel what the front tires were up to. Still, not much you could do about it, though. It just wants to understeer. ESC has high limits when on. But it's rather abrupt about cutting in when it does come on.

Db @ Idle: 39.4
Db @ Full Throttle: 69.7
Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 63.7


Moog-Type-S 01-30-2012 04:08 PM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/T8XmdQjJ7BM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Great commercial!

AZuser 01-30-2012 04:43 PM

:rofl: @ pizza window curtains

:win: @ reinvented couch (no, not male version)

So want reinvented DMV

legend74 01-30-2012 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S (Post 13186024)
^^ Sonata and Mazda 6 are meh to odd to ugly.

Kia Optima is the best looking car in this category...bar none.

I love the exterior of the Optima too but the interior was low rent looking to my eyes.

doopstr 01-30-2012 07:09 PM

That commercial is clever. I'm extremely happy with my '12 SE. It can boogie. 2600 miles already :biggrin:

charliemike 01-30-2012 07:13 PM

Clever commercial.

I'd consider my life over if I had to buy one though.

AZuser 01-30-2012 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by charliemike (Post 13519117)
I'd consider my life over if I had to buy one though.

:rip: doopstr

doopstr 01-30-2012 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by AZuser (Post 13519208)
:rip: doopstr

You know you're old when the Camry looks good to you. :snicker:

doopstr 02-08-2012 11:31 AM

SE sales now account for 35% of Camry's sales. Young women like the SE :pervert: and the average age of a Camry owner has dropped.

http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...parently-.html


With January sales showing a 56-percent increase year-over-year, the Camry is enjoying a bit of a hot streak, and the model owes much of its current success to the SE trim. SE models accounted for only 7 percent of total sales in the previous-generation Camry, but in the wake of the car's 2012 redesign (which recast the SE as the line's most performance-oriented trim, with larger tires and a sport-tuned suspension), SE sales have swelled to 35 percent of the Camry's mix.

During an interview on Monday at the recent National Automobile Dealers Convention in Las Vegas, Bob Carter, Toyota's group vice president of U.S. sales, said that the manufacturer plans to exploit the SE's popularity by bumping it up to 40-42 percent of total Camry production. Carter noted that the SE is especially popular with younger female buyers, and their presence has lowered the average age of all Camry buyers to 45 -- a figure that's lower than the segment average.

AZuser 02-08-2012 12:23 PM

Hopefully this will encourage Toyota to start making their cars either more sportier and fun to drive or at least offer a trim within each model that is sportier and more fun to drive.

If you build it, they will buy it. Do the opposite of what Honda's doing.

Hapa DC5 02-08-2012 12:33 PM

I've always liked the SEs, I think they add some flavor to an otherwise vanilla car.

Now that we've owned a Toyota for a few months, I'm growing to like the brand even more.

biker 02-08-2012 12:47 PM

:co: no?

Yumcha 10-31-2012 04:19 PM

2013 TRD Camry “Rowdy”
 
Press release...


Kyle Busch, whose 104 career wins across all three of its top series make him one of NASCAR’s top drivers, is now hoping to head to the winner’s circle in a different kind of race: the Toyota Racing Dream Build Challenge (www.ToyotaRacingDreamBuild.com). Busch, one of four racing stand-outs pitted against each other in the vehicle-modification build competition, took on a 2012 Toyota Camry SE and remade it into the “Rowdy Edition” Camry, named for his “Rowdy” handle on the racing circuit. The Rowdy Edition Camry is all about style and substance.

“Our approach to the build [was] to make a car with the stance, attitude and handling of a road-race car while retaining the functionality of a production Camry,” Busch said.

The modifications were carried out at Detroit Speed & Engineering (DSE) in Mooresville, N.C., under Busch’s supervision.

Among the body modifications that the Camry received to realize the proper “Rowdy” image were a hand-formed, custom wide-body kit; custom front and rear belly pans; DSE-designed and fabricated front air splitter and rear air diffuser; and a custom, true dual exhaust system.

“This looks like something we should run at Daytona and Talladega,” Busch said.

Since the official “Rowdy” colors are black, red, and white, they are predominant on both the exterior and inside, where black and red leather Lexus IS F bucket seats were installed to complete the look.

The "Rowdy Edition" Camry will premiere, along with its competitors in the Toyota Racing Dream Build Challenge, at Toyota's press conference at the Special Equipment Market Association (SEMA) show in Las Vegas on Oct. 30 at 11 a.m. local time.

NASCAR driver Clint Bowyer produced a Tekked-Out Prius, NHRA Funny Car driver Alexis DeJoria converted a Tundra pickup truck into a beastly desert pre-runner, and NHRA Top Fuel points leader Antron Brown modified a Sequoia for maximum speed. All four are competing for the Toyota Racing Dream Build Challenge title and a $50,000 check from Toyota to the driver’s chosen charity. A win by Busch will benefit the Kyle Busch Foundation, whose mission is to empower young men and women by fostering life experiences and helping them achieve their goals.


Yumcha 10-31-2012 04:19 PM

http://www.supercars.net/pics/5874/2...wdy-0-1024.jpg

ttribe 10-31-2012 04:32 PM

^^^https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...postcount=7524

:whistle:

TSX69 02-26-2013 10:00 AM

Korea
 

For more than 2 decades, Hyundai Motor Co. could count on the sun rising each morning and for South Koreans to buy South Korean vehicles. Then Toyota Motor Corp.'s Camry became the country's "Car of the Year."

Sure, it's the same staid sedan that won consumers' hearts around the globe as more than 14 million units rolled off Toyota production lines since 1982. But given Korea's fraught relationship with its 1-time and sometimes brutal occupier, it was a surprise the country's auto journalists awarded the title to any Japanese car.

Shifting attitudes to foreign goods in South Korea, free- trade pacts and a stronger currency have driven the share of imports to a record in Asia's 4th-biggest car market. For Toyota, annual shipments on a par with those it makes to Hawaii are no big deal; for Hyundai and its Kia Motors Corp. affiliate, they represent a breach of their biggest profit center, just as global sales are eroded by the won's gains.

"Before, Korean people chose what they wore, what they used, what cars they drove based on whether they were made by Koreans," said Takeshi Miyao, an industry analyst at researcher Carnorama Japan in Tokyo. "If you look at the streets of Seoul now, younger people are buying imported brands, and choosing based on whether they're good quality."

Take Kim Sung Eun. "I didn't even consider Hyundais when looking for a new car this winter," said the 27-year-old online marketer based in Seoul. "I don't think my car has anything to do with patriotism. It's just a personal choice."

Tariff Barriers

In Kim's case, that's between Toyota's Prius and the Camry, which this month beat out 44 other cars, including models from previous winners Hyundai and Kia, to become the 1st foreign vehicle to win the Korea Automobile Journalist Association's award.

Such inroads by foreign companies would have been almost unthinkable as recently as a decade ago, when Korean carmakers controlled more than 99% of the domestic market.

Protected by tariffs as part of military strongman General Park Chung Hee's plans to modernize his agrarian country, Hyundai began mass producing its Pony sedan in 1975 and now churns out more than 4 million cars a year, with 2012 revenue of 84.5 trillion won ($78 billion).

Park's backing of the diversified industrial groups known as chaebol, combined with his nationalist ideology, fostered development of electronics-to-shipping giant Samsung Group and Hyundai Group as well as a domestic market hostile to foreign companies.
IMF Bailout

After South Korea was forced to accept a humiliating $60 billion bailout from lenders including the International Monetary Fund in 1998 during the Asian financial crisis, newspaper columns sang the virtues of only buying and using domestic products: clothes made by Korean brands over Nike Inc., Korean movies instead of Hollywood blockbusters and Hyundai rather than imports.

That's begun to change. Within a year of its introduction in 2009, Apple Inc.'s iPhone captured a quarter of Korean smartphone sales. Imported beer consumption grew at twice the pace of the overall market between 2007 and 2011, according to data from the Korea Alcohol & Liquor Industry Association and the Korea Wines & Spirits Importers Association.

Over the past decade, car imports have inched forward too, reaching 10% for the 1st time last year as domestic manufacturers' sales dropped 2.9%, Korea Automobile Importers & Distributors Association data show.

Luxury Demand

Korean sales of Toyotas — including the high-end Lexus models — gained 73% last year to 15,771 vehicles, making it the 4th-biggest foreign brand in the country, with 1.2% of the market, the import data show. Bayerische Motoren Werke AG was 1st, with 28,152 units.

"Korea is where Hyundai and Kia sell most of their top-end models, and these offer higher margins," said Lee Hyung Sil, an analyst at Shinyoung Securities Co.

Both Seoul-based companies reported quarterly profit declines last month and expressed concern about worsening exchange rates that make imports cheaper while reducing the value of cars they export. The won gained 4.8% against the dollar over the past 6 months; the yen dropped 15%.

Trade Deals

With the currencies expected to continue their divergent paths, investors have punished the Korean companies' stock: Kia slid 29% over the 6 months, Hyundai 10%, the 2 worst performers on a 28-member Bloomberg gauge of global carmakers. Toyota surged 49%.

A 2011 free trade agreement with the European Union has cut import duties to 3.2% from 8%. A similar pact with the U.S. took effect last year, making foreign cars cheaper for South Korean motorists and also helping Japanese producers to ship vehicles from their North American plants.

Hyundai garnered more than 60% of its operating profit last year from Korean revenue that made up 45% of the total, data compiled by Bloomberg show. The U.S. accounted for only 22% of profit, though 30% of sales.

To win back Korean customers, Hyundai cut the price of mid- size sedans as by as much as 1 million won, or about 3.5% of the sticker price for its top-end Sonata hybrid. Kia, in which Hyundai holds a 34% stake, cut the price of its flagship K9 luxury sedan.

"We are improving the design and quality of our products," Hyundai said in an e-mailed response to queries.

Revamped Models

The revamped Tucson sport utility vehicle and Elantra small sedan now include more expensive options such as bigger wheels, upgraded music systems and more luxurious seats.

Toyota, meantime, will introduce the RAV4 sport utility vehicle and U.S.-made Avalon sedan to South Korea this year while its Lexus luxury unit will bring in the IS model from Japan.

Honda Motor Co., Japan's 3rd-biggest carmaker, introduced 5 new models between November and January, including the Accord sedan, its best-selling car in the U.S.

For Hyundai, the success of foreign producers in South Korea hurts the automaker as Japanese carmakers win back a share in export markets they lost in the wake of the 2011 earthquake and tsunami in Japan and flooding in Thailand that disrupted output.

U.S. Decline

Toyota's U.S. market share grew to 14.4%, according to researcher Autodata Corp. Hyundai's fell 0.2 of a percentage point to 4.9%, the company said. Toyota, the world's biggest carmaker, sold 9.75 million units globally last year, up from 7.95 million in 2011.

"As Honda and Toyota came back stronger than anticipated after the tsunami, Hyundai lost some of the market share they gained," said Jesse Toprak, a senior analyst at TrueCar.com in Santa Monica, California.

South Korea is Hyundai's3rd-biggest market, behind China and the U.S., as well as its main production base. The company says it made 43% of its vehicles at home last year.

Domestic sales of the 3 Hyundai luxury models plunged 20% in 2012. Toyota's Lexus sales jumped 21%, to 4,976 cars. Total Japanese car exports to Korea rose 26% to 23,924 units in the same period.

While lingering resentment over Japan's invasion and occupation continues to cloud political relations between the 2 nations — most recently marked by territorial disputes — it seems consumers have moved on.

"South Koreans aren't as sensitive as they were in the past about Japanese products," said Park Jung Hyun, a senior researcher at LG Economic Research Institute in Seoul. "Consumers want products made in developed countries, which they trust will only offer quality products. Japan and Germany fit into that trustworthy category."

TegoTL 02-26-2013 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Yumcha (Post 14135651)

I'd rock this!

TSX69 07-01-2013 06:21 AM

Sales
 

For 11 straight years, the Toyota Camry has carried the powerful marketing message of being America's best-selling car. But with the competition nipping at the Camry's heels, Toyota officials must contemplate how far they're willing to go to retain the title.

For now, the directive is to do whatever it takes. The Camry is less than 2 years into its model cycle, and already Toyota is piling on incentives and cutting fleet deals to stay ahead in the race.

"We will do what is necessary to get the vehicle into the hands of new and loyal customers," Toyota Division General Manager Bill Fay wrote in an e-mail. "Incentives on Camry will remain as competitive as they need to be."

The Camry is the only 1 of the 4 top-selling mid-sized sedans to receive increased incentive spending this year, although the other 3 were in sell-down mode at this time last year. Except for February, Toyota has dialed up incentive spending per unit on the Camry each month this year, up from $2,300 in January to $2,750 in May, according to TrueCar.

Meanwhile, Toyota's fleet deals are running ahead of the pace set last year, when Toyota made massive "make good" sales to fleet customers who had to wait out 2011's tsunami-related shortages.

That has some Toyota insiders concerned about the impact on the Camry nameplate's long-term value. The Camry's 36-month residual value is near the top of the segment, at 54.4 percent for the 2013 model year, compared with the segment average of 50.9 percent, according to ALG. Only the Honda Accord is higher, at 55.6 percent.

But some Toyota insiders worry that continued incentives and fleet deals could put the Camry's values into a downward spiral. They say sales meetings often revolve around the potential trade-offs of the Camry ceding its lead in order to preserve its residual values. If incentives and fleet sales are already this high, some insiders ask, what will happen in 2 years, when the Camry is closer to the end of its life cycle?
First in sales and spiffs
Incentive spending for the Toyota Camry was higher in May than for the car's top competitors.
Incentive spending
Per unit Chg. vs. 2012
Toyota Camry $2,750 38%
Nissan Altima $2,400 –20%
Ford Fusion $2,300 –35%
Honda Accord $1,400 –40%
Source: TrueCar
A similar debate is playing out broadly across the competitive mid-sized sedan segment, with Toyota's chief competitors taking different paths in search of sales. The Nissan Altima, Ford Fusion and Chevrolet Malibu all generated more than 30 percent of sales from fleets in the 1st 4 months of the year, according to R.L. Polk & Co. data analyzed by Edmunds.com. Honda, meanwhile, has held the line, with fleet sales of the Accord running at 1 percent of the total, according to Polk.

Fay said that most of Toyota's 2013 fleet sales occurred in the 1st quarter, with a sharp drop-off expected until the 4th quarter when the 2014 Camry arrives. For the full year, Camry fleet sales should be no more than 15 percent of total, Fay said.

"While our fleet customers are an important part of our business strategy, we are mainly focused on retail," he said.

The Camry is still solidly the best-selling car in America for the year, with 5 straight months of more than 30,000 sales and nearly 40,000 sales in May. Toyota executives say the sales plan is to sell more than 400,000 total units this year, a muscular production number that the competition may be unable to match.
Fleet fodder
Among the big players in mid-sized cars, Honda is alone in mostly shunning fleet orders through April.
FLEET SALES AS PCT. OF TOTAL FLEET SALES AS PCT. OF TOTAL
Chrysler 200 52% Toyota Camry 20%
Chevrolet Malibu 39% Hyundai Sonata 17%
Ford Fusion 34% Honda Accord 1%
Nissan Altima 33%
Source: R.L. Polk & Co. data analyzed by Edmunds.com
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcsi.d...7.jpg&MaxW=622
Camry sales were off by more than 10,000 units through May, even when heavy incentives.

But in 2 of the 1st 5 months of the year, the Camry has been outsold by rivals, and its overall lead for the year has narrowed. The Accord, Altima and Fusion -- all redesigned in the past year -- have had sales increases while Camry sales were off by more than 10,000 units through May.

Toyota's heavy use of incentives has drawn its rivals into a spending war. As 2013 has progressed, other automakers have increased their incentives on mid-sized cars, according to TrueCar. For instance, Toyota has 0 percent financing for 60 months on the Camry; the Altima and Hyundai Sonata have identical deals.

Backed by incentives and with fleet sales constituting more than 30 percent of the total, the Altima was the best-selling car in March. But the Accord outsold the Camry and Altima in April.

John Mendel, executive vice president of sales at American Honda, signaled that Honda will forgo stepping up incentives or fleet sales near year end to catch the Camry.

If Accord sales are neck and neck with the Camry in December, Mendel said in an interview, Honda "won't make a customer look silly for buying a car in November vs. buying 1 in December or any other month."

He added: "We're not going to damage the customer's decision or financial investment in the vehicle just to claim a leadership role against a competitor. It just doesn't make any sense. We're not going to do anything it takes."

You can reach Mark Rechtin at mrechtin@crain.com. -- Follow Mark on Twitter

biker 07-01-2013 06:51 AM

^ It's times like this that it's good that Honda is a conservative company.

AZuser 12-19-2013 03:57 PM

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Toyota Camry Regains Consumer Reports’ Favor on Crash Tests

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December 19, 2013

Toyota Motor Corp.’s Camry, headed for its 12th consecutive year as the best-selling car in the U.S., returned to Consumer Reports’ recommended list after showing improvement on an insurance-industry crash test.

The magazine, based in Yonkers, New York, excluded Camry in October after the 2013 model sedan received a poor rating in a new front-end test by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

The 2014 Camry with a strengthened frame received an “acceptable” rating when retested, prompting Arlington, Virginia-based IIHS to give Camrys built after November its second-highest total rating in a report released today.

“The Consumer Reports recommendation is certainly a big thing for Toyota,” said Jake Fisher, the magazine’s director of automotive testing, in a phone interview. Fisher said he wasn’t aware of any vehicle returning to the recommended list faster than Camry.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...er-crash-tests

MeehowsBRZ 04-16-2014 08:48 AM

Here's the new Camry according to <a href="http://jalopnik.com/2015-toyota-camry-this-is-it-1563752668">Jalopnik</a>:

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MeehowsBRZ 04-16-2014 09:08 AM

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From Jalopnik:

Today I learned that 50 American families come home with a new Toyota Camry every hour. As such, my last act before I officially defect to North Korea will be to tell you about the heavily refreshed 2015 Toyota Camry. It's all about "attitude" now, Toyota says.

Even though Americans are as addicted to buying Camrys as we are to abusing prescription pain medication, Toyota has decided just three years into the life cycle of the new Camry to revise it nearly completely. The exterior has been almost totally redone; the only body panel the new car shares with the old one is its roof.

Toyota wants the new Camry to be more "emotional," more "fun to drive," and more "waku doki," a Japanese term that means "heart-racing excitement." For them, that includes products like the new Avalon, Highlander and RAV4. So, yeah.

Honestly, it's not unattractive from most angles, and in the visual department it's probably one of the least-boring Camrys ever made. I can't decide how I feel about the new grille. It's kind of Lexus spindle-y, but not.

As part of the 2015 Camry's sporting mission, it will have a twin-turbo V8 engine and rear-wheel drive a new trim level called XSE with 18 inch alloy wheels and an enhanced suspension. It boasts more responsive handling than the old Camry, so if you see someone in an XSE, note that they haven't given up entirely just yet, but they are close.

In addition, the Camry Hybrid now gets an SE trim, because as Toyota's Bill Fay said at the press conference, "You can still have a little fun while being environmentally conscious."

In other news, there is no news on the next Supra.

H_CAR 04-16-2014 09:26 AM

Looks great, and much better than expected :thumbsup:

AZuser 04-16-2014 09:27 AM

That front end. Looks like...

http://i58.tinypic.com/33w6qdg.jpg


Everything else looks okay.

dom 04-16-2014 09:28 AM

:ugh:

Better but still :ugly:

AZuser 04-16-2014 09:31 AM

I don't think like the interior has changed any. :dunno:

http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims...camry-15-1.jpg
http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims...camry-16-1.jpg
http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims...camry-17-1.jpg

dom 04-16-2014 09:33 AM

Looks like a larger Corolla. Did they do enough to stop making it a rental queen and throwing tons of cash on the hood to move them? Doubt it.


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