Tesla: Cybertruck News
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IMO this is the perfect upmarket complement to say, a Ridgeline. Great for daily use (if you’re not a contractor) with its retractable bed cover. Unless you live in a bumfuck type of city, charging stations should be everywhere.
If you actually tow anything, all that torque should make it supremely easy.
If you actually tow anything, all that torque should make it supremely easy.
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It's pretty clear the CyberTruck is going after the F150/Silverado/Ram market.
It's doing what it's probably was meant to do for Musk/Tesla, generate lots of media attention.
The physics majors on here should know why the rock and not the steel ball broke the window.
It's doing what it's probably was meant to do for Musk/Tesla, generate lots of media attention.
The physics majors on here should know why the rock and not the steel ball broke the window.
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ha! Saw that self promo coming. They intentionally made the deposit 100 refundable on a credit card so they could make that statement, xxxxx “ordered”. Two guys within 20 ft from me at work put down “deposits”. Likely so they could just tell ppl they did. The chances they actually purchase is slim to none
#58
It's a unibody design which means it's not modular, right? That means you cannot convert it and put on a service body or racks to carry long items (i.e. ladder).
You cannot remove the bed and covert it into a flat bed like my neighbor did.
The bed is shaped in such a way that you cannot put in a tool box behind the rear window or along the sides which I see on a lot of work trucks... unless Tesla is going to offer their own (likely overpriced) toolboxes.
When I read that Tesla was going to make a pickup truck, I was expecting them to offer something that could be adopted and used by everyone. What we got was a family / lifestyle truck. Ford, GM, and RAM don't have much to worry about.
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It has storage in the frunk, no ICE pickup has that, it has storage under the truck bed, and you can store things in the side pillars too. I don’t see why they couldn’t add racks too it. You probably won’t be able to turn it into a flat bed. That secure storage for ICE trucks is an add on that makes up for a deficiency of ICE pickups, a deficiency the cybertruck doesn’t have.
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Lots of secure storage space in the cybertruck. And remember the “vault” retractable bed liner that covers the truck bed that turns the entire truck bed into a secure storage space. What base model ICE truck has that capability?
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Most EVs leave the house everyday and rarely need to stop at a public charger to fill up. The cybertruck charges at 250kw which on the Model 3 is about 1000miles per hour. In 6 minutes you have 100 miles of range which plenty for most people to finish their destination. It also costs about $100 less per month to charge a cybertruck vs a normal pickup truck. I’m you’ll feel superior waiting in line at the gas station so you can spend $50 a week on gas, while the EV pulls out of the driveway with a full charge every morning that costs a fraction as much.
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Most EVs leave the house everyday and rarely need to stop at a public charger to fill up. The cybertruck charges at 250kw which on the Model 3 is about 1000miles per hour. In 6 minutes you have 100 miles of range which plenty for most people to finish their destination. It also costs about $100 less per month to charge a cybertruck vs a normal pickup truck. I’m you’ll feel superior waiting in line at the gas station so you can spend $50 a week on gas, while the EV pulls out of the driveway with a full charge every morning that costs a fraction as much.
I'm not advocating that gas is better than EV at all. My argument is two fold:
1.) Most people who want a truck to use as a truck will not buy this thing. It's unproven and the range claim is in an unloaded ideal condition. Put a big load on the trailer or in the bed and you can kiss that goodbye. There are plenty of youtube videos of people towing with their Model X to validate this claim, go take a look. People want something they can gas up in 5 minutes and get back to work, not charge for an hour while they jack around a restaurant waiting. Also, it's really expensive and remains to be seen how functional it actually is.
2.) It's fucking ugly.
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So your claim is that most truck drivers travel 400-500 miles a day with a heavy trailer on the back, so the Cybertruck doesn't have enough range for most truck drivers? Also most truck drivers that apparently travel 2000 to 3000 miles per week don't spend anywhere close to $50 on gas a week to travel that far? Sorry I call BS on that. Both arguments can't be true. If you "don't get gas every week and don't pay anywhere close to $50 for it" then you're not towing heavy loads hundreds of miles every day, which is what you say most truck people do and that's what the cybertruck supposedly can't do.
Every truck loses range when you carry a heavy load, look it up. I'm saying that the percentage of range loss that the cybertruck experiences is less than or equal to the range loss an F150 experiences for the same load.
The average light duty truck travel 32 miles per day, so your claim that 250, 300, or 500 miles isn't enough for the average truck driver is BS. The people at the edges of the bell curve do not represent the majority in the middle that this truck is targeted at and that it more than adequately meets the needs of.
https://afdc.energy.gov/data/10309
Every truck loses range when you carry a heavy load, look it up. I'm saying that the percentage of range loss that the cybertruck experiences is less than or equal to the range loss an F150 experiences for the same load.
The average light duty truck travel 32 miles per day, so your claim that 250, 300, or 500 miles isn't enough for the average truck driver is BS. The people at the edges of the bell curve do not represent the majority in the middle that this truck is targeted at and that it more than adequately meets the needs of.
https://afdc.energy.gov/data/10309
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The average light duty truck buyer are not the ones using the truck as a truck, they are using it as a commuter car.
If you think this thing is going to get anywhere close to the rated mileage with even an empty trailer behind it, you're sadly mistaken.
If you think this thing is going to get anywhere close to the rated mileage with even an empty trailer behind it, you're sadly mistaken.
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However I’m a little confused about the second part. With all Tesla vehicles they stated the “max range” as a fact, but with the Cybertruck they have stated the minimum range (not the max range). This has got me thinking- may be the range stated is with a full load (3500 pounds), and +250 , +300, +500 indicates that the car can go much farther if unloaded or only a single driver present (okay just hoping. )
Any ideas...???
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The difference is replenishing the range on a F150 is a 5 minute exercise, not an hour. It may not be a daily activity but it sure would suck to have to stop every 200 miles for an hour to recharge.
I agree with the first part of your statement. Most people who will use the cyber truck would use it as a commuter vehicle.
However I’m a little confused about the second part. With all Tesla vehicles they stated the “max range” as a fact, but with the Cybertruck they have stated the minimum range (not the max range). This has got me thinking- may be the range stated is with a full load (3500 pounds), and +250 , +300, +500 indicates that the car can go much farther if unloaded or only a single driver present (okay just hoping. )
Any ideas...???
However I’m a little confused about the second part. With all Tesla vehicles they stated the “max range” as a fact, but with the Cybertruck they have stated the minimum range (not the max range). This has got me thinking- may be the range stated is with a full load (3500 pounds), and +250 , +300, +500 indicates that the car can go much farther if unloaded or only a single driver present (okay just hoping. )
Any ideas...???
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So your claim is that most truck drivers travel 400-500 miles a day with a heavy trailer on the back, so the Cybertruck doesn't have enough range for most truck drivers? Also most truck drivers that apparently travel 2000 to 3000 miles per week don't spend anywhere close to $50 on gas a week to travel that far? Sorry I call BS on that. Both arguments can't be true. If you "don't get gas every week and don't pay anywhere close to $50 for it" then you're not towing heavy loads hundreds of miles every day, which is what you say most truck people do and that's what the cybertruck supposedly can't do.
Every truck loses range when you carry a heavy load, look it up. I'm saying that the percentage of range loss that the cybertruck experiences is less than or equal to the range loss an F150 experiences for the same load.
The average light duty truck travel 32 miles per day, so your claim that 250, 300, or 500 miles isn't enough for the average truck driver is BS. The people at the edges of the bell curve do not represent the majority in the middle that this truck is targeted at and that it more than adequately meets the needs of.
https://afdc.energy.gov/data/10309
Every truck loses range when you carry a heavy load, look it up. I'm saying that the percentage of range loss that the cybertruck experiences is less than or equal to the range loss an F150 experiences for the same load.
The average light duty truck travel 32 miles per day, so your claim that 250, 300, or 500 miles isn't enough for the average truck driver is BS. The people at the edges of the bell curve do not represent the majority in the middle that this truck is targeted at and that it more than adequately meets the needs of.
https://afdc.energy.gov/data/10309
The fact most are missing is that many cars may beat the Cybertruck in one aspect but lose in all other aspects, But you need to have so many other cars to get that functionality. Cybertruck is a lone warrior that can possibly do all of those things and compete with everyone of them (even if it loses in one aspect that’s not automatically a fail).
Now I can actually hand count the number of times I had to refuel my car the same day when I started from home with a full gas tank in the last five years. (Only during long trips). If I were using a Tesla vehicle that would be the same number of times I would be using the supercharger in 5 years (provided I have charging set up at home).
It may not be practical for those whose work involves driving hundreds of miles everyday. They are not a majority. Cybertruck is not intended for them.
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Piggybacking off of this, they will probably pull some BS to recoup initial development costs, like only making certain specifications available at first. Obviously, the more expensive ones.
We put down a very early deposit on a Model 3. After months of them dicking us around well past the original delivery date, plus reading about the same for others, we ended up canceling the order.
I want Tesla to succeed as a company, and they are still relatively new at it all. But I don’t have the patience or faith to drop money on this and expect it to be everything I hoped for and more. Especially for something as crucial as daily transportation.
QC suffers because production is overworked. I have met a few people who have worked/are working in different levels at the company. Time will tell if they get their shit together
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I’ve seen that Tesla states they can get 170 miles of charge in 10 minutes because they are using 800w charging instead of the 350w from Electrify America.