Pontiac: Solstice News
04-25-2005, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by amirsafdari
A) please tell me what kinda magic googly eyes you own that are able to recognize interior quality and choice of materials used in the interior from pics.
04-25-2005, 10:31 AM
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Debut sales for a "vert" in the winter is brilliant!!!
Another great move by GM.
This will bring HUGE sales in the Northeast.
Another great move by GM.
This will bring HUGE sales in the Northeast.
04-25-2005, 11:03 AM
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[QUOTE=amirsafdari]
B) Enjoy when cars get played out and look like nothing special on the road
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Just being Devil's advocate to your point on this one.
Audi A4s are pretty damn played out. I dont even know how many I see a day.
So, are you still driving one? or did you switch to a more elusive car?
B) Enjoy when cars get played out and look like nothing special on the road
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Just being Devil's advocate to your point on this one.
Audi A4s are pretty damn played out. I dont even know how many I see a day.
So, are you still driving one? or did you switch to a more elusive car?
04-25-2005, 11:18 AM
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Seems like GM's having quite a few issues getting their products out to market lately? I wonder why? It makes me wonder whether their suppliers are worried about getting stiffed in the event that gM defaults on its obligations.
04-25-2005, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Debut sales for a "vert" in the winter is brilliant!!!
Another great move by GM.
This will bring HUGE sales in the Northeast.
Another great move by GM.
This will bring HUGE sales in the Northeast.
It's another case where GM blows the initial introduction of a vehicle. Ford got it right with the Mustang Convertible, why can't GM do the same?
04-25-2005, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Because GM is run by a bunch of morons.
04-25-2005, 12:15 PM
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That's good news for me. Hopefully someone who wants to buy a Solstice in December with snow on the road can get a better deal.
04-25-2005, 05:22 PM
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Sorry to hear about the delay. I hope they really are "underpromising and overdelivering." Something tells me though, it'll be after August like the article says.
04-25-2005, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Exactly.
It's another case where GM blows the initial introduction of a vehicle. Ford got it right with the Mustang Convertible, why can't GM do the same?
It's another case where GM blows the initial introduction of a vehicle. Ford got it right with the Mustang Convertible, why can't GM do the same?
04-26-2005, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Python2121
well guys, cant you see that they are only trying to release more suv's!!?!?
05-23-2005, 10:41 AM
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Pontiac to build hardtop Solstice, sources say; variant could race in SCCA events - - By JASON STEIN | Automotive News and ROBERT SHEREFKIN | Automotive News - - Source: AUtoweek
DETROIT -- General Motors will offer a removable hardtop on the Pontiac Solstice roadster in the first quarter of 2007, supplier and GM sources say.
The variant is part of GM's attempt to race the Solstice in Sports Car Club of America events. To race there, an automaker must have a production version of a hardtop vehicle.
During a panel discussion at the SAE World Congress in Detroit last month, Mark Reuss, executive director of GM's Performance Division, showed a picture of a car labeled the 2007 Solstice GT. The photo showed the car in coupe form with a sloping, fixed roof.
Pontiac spokesman Jim Hopson says the vehicle is still under study. "We're not ruling out a lot of possibilities," Hopson says. "We're going to explore some of those."
GM insiders say Pontiac would like to add a hardtop to its lineup to stoke enthusiasm for what already appears to be a popular vehicle.
As of Monday, May 16, Pontiac had 8,177 orders for the Solstice, GM says. Pontiac says it will start building the vehicle this summer.
Reuss said he envisions a hardtop Solstice competing for the title in the Stock B-class competition against the Mazda Miata or in the Grand-Am Cup ST-class racing circuit against the BMW 330 and Mazda RX-8.
The Solstice will be built at GM's Wilmington, Del., plant on the Kappa rear-wheel-drive architecture.
Late next year GM will start building an Opel version of the Solstice in Wilmington. The Opel vehicle will be exported to Europe and will not be sold in the United States.
The variant is part of GM's attempt to race the Solstice in Sports Car Club of America events. To race there, an automaker must have a production version of a hardtop vehicle.
During a panel discussion at the SAE World Congress in Detroit last month, Mark Reuss, executive director of GM's Performance Division, showed a picture of a car labeled the 2007 Solstice GT. The photo showed the car in coupe form with a sloping, fixed roof.
Pontiac spokesman Jim Hopson says the vehicle is still under study. "We're not ruling out a lot of possibilities," Hopson says. "We're going to explore some of those."
GM insiders say Pontiac would like to add a hardtop to its lineup to stoke enthusiasm for what already appears to be a popular vehicle.
As of Monday, May 16, Pontiac had 8,177 orders for the Solstice, GM says. Pontiac says it will start building the vehicle this summer.
Reuss said he envisions a hardtop Solstice competing for the title in the Stock B-class competition against the Mazda Miata or in the Grand-Am Cup ST-class racing circuit against the BMW 330 and Mazda RX-8.
The Solstice will be built at GM's Wilmington, Del., plant on the Kappa rear-wheel-drive architecture.
Late next year GM will start building an Opel version of the Solstice in Wilmington. The Opel vehicle will be exported to Europe and will not be sold in the United States.
05-23-2005, 11:06 AM
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Not at all concerned about a coupe verson or a fixed hardtop version.
I do like the REMOVABLE HARDTOP option though. That is always a plus when it comes to convertibles.
I do like the REMOVABLE HARDTOP option though. That is always a plus when it comes to convertibles.
06-08-2005, 09:22 AM
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Update on base and turbo models
MT mag is reporting that the reason for the 2 month delay in the production of the Solstice was due to a GM executive having a problem with the quality of the interior and ordering a change, last minute.
The force fed Solstice will not be supercharged but turbocharged. It will have a 2.2 liter 4 cyl. turbo engine making around 240HP, per the mag.
This engine sounds to me as a European Opel derivative used today.
06-08-2005, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by titan
240HP in that car sounds good. And a nice bump from the 177HP standard Ecotec.
06-08-2005, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
Sounds promising but almost too good to be true from GM.
06-08-2005, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
MT mag is reporting that the reason for the 2 month delay in the production of the Solstice was due to a GM executive having a problem with the quality of the interior and ordering a change, last minute.
The force fed Solstice will not be supercharged but turbocharged. It will have a 2.2 liter 4 cyl. turbo engine making around 240HP, per the mag.
This engine sounds to me as a European Opel derivative used today.
06-08-2005, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I have no problem believing this product is coming from GM. Remember this is one of the few (up to now at least), 100% Lutz-mobiles.
I will wait and see first if they can actually pull-off a glitch free launch. Remember what happened to the SSR?
06-08-2005, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Yes. I think that the turbo Solstice will out-accelerate the current Z4 3.0 which means it will be as quick as the new Boxster.
06-16-2005, 09:26 AM
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C&G Spy Shots: 2007 Solstice GXP, GTP, GT Whatever You Want It TO BE!
"Whoops! Who Left The Hood Up?"
That rascally wabbit Chris Doane is at it again. This time it's the high performance model of the Pontiac Solstice! Rumors have been floating around as to not "if" but "when" a high performance model would be available for the Solstice, even as the current model is not even on sale yet! Step inside for the details.
C&G expects the 2007 HiPo Solstice to feature an INTERCOOLED (pictured) turbo charger. As you can see the hood was left open on this test mule leading to this spy shot of the turbo charged model. The new, powerful, faster Solstice will feature a true dual exhaust system and will come attached to either a 5 speed manual transmission or 5 speed automatic transmission. (Who wants an auto in a vehicle like this anyway!?)
It is expected that this high performance Solstice will feature a revised front fascia to accommodate for the turbo charger. We expect the power to be somewhere in the 240hp+ range.
C&G Spy Shots: 2007 Solstice GXP, GTP, GT Whatever You Want It TO BE!
"Whoops! Who Left The Hood Up?"
That rascally wabbit Chris Doane is at it again. This time it's the high performance model of the Pontiac Solstice! Rumors have been floating around as to not "if" but "when" a high performance model would be available for the Solstice, even as the current model is not even on sale yet! Step inside for the details.
C&G expects the 2007 HiPo Solstice to feature an INTERCOOLED (pictured) turbo charger. As you can see the hood was left open on this test mule leading to this spy shot of the turbo charged model. The new, powerful, faster Solstice will feature a true dual exhaust system and will come attached to either a 5 speed manual transmission or 5 speed automatic transmission. (Who wants an auto in a vehicle like this anyway!?)
It is expected that this high performance Solstice will feature a revised front fascia to accommodate for the turbo charger. We expect the power to be somewhere in the 240hp+ range.
06-16-2005, 10:43 AM
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The dual exhausts and big ass rims (19s?) are probably some of the visual differences to the stock car. I think this will be a great car to drive; especially the turbo model.
06-16-2005, 12:46 PM
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How much of this car's body panels are plastic?
07-08-2005, 09:48 AM
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Blower Blowout: Porsche 911, Pontiac Solstice turbo models turn up the pressure - - By BOB GRITZINGER - - Source: Autoweek
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Meanwhile, with the 2006 Pontiac Solstice roadster due this fall, we’re already getting word that the hotted-up version is nearing completion. Though General Motors tested both supercharged and turbocharged versions of the 2.0-liter Ecotec four-cylinder, our spies tell us the General has settled on an intercooled turbo to push the base Solstice engine to 250 hp.
We’ll see the high-performance turbo-powered Solstice GXP, with dual exhaust and a six-speed manual tranny, on sale next year as a 2007 model.
Meanwhile, with the 2006 Pontiac Solstice roadster due this fall, we’re already getting word that the hotted-up version is nearing completion. Though General Motors tested both supercharged and turbocharged versions of the 2.0-liter Ecotec four-cylinder, our spies tell us the General has settled on an intercooled turbo to push the base Solstice engine to 250 hp.
We’ll see the high-performance turbo-powered Solstice GXP, with dual exhaust and a six-speed manual tranny, on sale next year as a 2007 model.
07-08-2005, 04:52 PM
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250HP+6sp stick+RWD in this car equals what Pontiac should be in it's essence. Great, great news. If Pontiac had a RWD G8 on the was (as a 300 competitor) way we could see a new interest in this divison. Oh well, I love the Soltice.
07-08-2005, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by titan
250HP+6sp stick+RWD in this car equals what Pontiac should be in it's essence. Great, great news. If Pontiac had a RWD G8 on the was (as a 300 competitor) way we could see a new interest in this divison. Oh well, I love the Soltice.
Honestly, pontiac hasn't demonstrated that they can even design a great looking sedan yet, let alone something that will be on par with the 300. They need to get the fundamentals down before they go anywhere.
07-08-2005, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Honestly, pontiac hasn't demonstrated that they can even design a great looking sedan yet, let alone something that will be on par with the 300. They need to get the fundamentals down before they go anywhere.
The 300 isn't a looker, IMO. You do, so we'll agree to disagree. I wasn't talking about looks. I was talking about a great handling RWD sedan stuffed with a V8 as an option. We know that a great handling sedan can be produced by GM (CTS). Again, GM's resources make it absolutely possible to produce such a sedan. So, it's not the fundamentals that they lack; it's the nerves and the balls to do something daring (again). Caddy's turnaround with the razor edge styling was a do or die situation that payed off. Simialr situation with Chrysler and the 300. Staying pure to Pontiac's supposed purpose for being can bring them back (if GM's got the balls).
07-08-2005, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by titan
I disagree, to an extent. The can create great looking sedans. The problem is, they get scared to pull the trigger. Look at the G6 concept!!! Then look at the production. The 300 isn't a looker, IMO. You do, so we'll agree to disagree. I wasn't talking about looks. I was talking about a great handling RWD sedan stuffed with a V8 as an option. We know that a great handling sedan can be produced by GM (CTS). Again, GM's resources make it absolutely possible to produce such a sedan. So, it's not the fundamentals that they lack; it's the nerves and the balls to do something daring (again). Caddy's turnaround with the razor edge styling was a do or die situation that payed off. Simialr situation with Chrysler and the 300. Staying pure to Pontiac's supposed purpose for being can bring them back (if GM's got the balls).
The 300 isn't a looker, IMO. You do, so we'll agree to disagree. I wasn't talking about looks. I was talking about a great handling RWD sedan stuffed with a V8 as an option. We know that a great handling sedan can be produced by GM (CTS). Again, GM's resources make it absolutely possible to produce such a sedan. So, it's not the fundamentals that they lack; it's the nerves and the balls to do something daring (again). Caddy's turnaround with the razor edge styling was a do or die situation that payed off. Simialr situation with Chrysler and the 300. Staying pure to Pontiac's supposed purpose for being can bring them back (if GM's got the balls).GM can create great looking sedans where? The Chrysler 300 is no looker? Yet it is selling beyond what anyone expected- the car is selling very well, and it is hot whether people here like it or not.
Great handling rwd pontiacs don't mean anything without the looks, yet a great handling pontiac doesn't even exist...
It is the fundamentals they lack, sure they got the High Performance vette to a tee, but they don't have any other cars running hot.
07-08-2005, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Concepts mean nothing if they aren't built and that shows oh so clear with the xlr vs cien, and the sts is even a weak attempt at cts styling...
GM can create great looking sedans where? The Chrysler 300 is no looker? Yet it is selling beyond what anyone expected- the car is selling very well, and it is hot whether people here like it or not.
Great handling rwd pontiacs don't mean anything without the looks, yet a great handling pontiac doesn't even exist...
It is the fundamentals they lack, sure they got the High Performance vette to a tee, but they don't have any other cars running hot.
GM can create great looking sedans where? The Chrysler 300 is no looker? Yet it is selling beyond what anyone expected- the car is selling very well, and it is hot whether people here like it or not.
Great handling rwd pontiacs don't mean anything without the looks, yet a great handling pontiac doesn't even exist...
It is the fundamentals they lack, sure they got the High Performance vette to a tee, but they don't have any other cars running hot.