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Old 04-05-2011, 02:06 PM
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Isn't that an Elantra hatch?
Old 04-05-2011, 02:58 PM
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yeah the front is more Elantra than Sonata. are we sure about this?
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that's true, it does look a lot more like the Elantra, but if you look at the link I posted above, it does show the same car...

here's that link again... but in the comments area, there are at least a couple that mentioned it too
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/12/13/g...dere/#comments
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it does look like it.. i guess it's because of the grille area..

but i think VF = i40 = sonata wagon...
and it looks bigger than elentra to me..


by the way, i'm looking to buy elentra for my wife.. it's not that cheap anymore >_<
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damn that wagon looks good!
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This seems like the Euro Accord "tweener" - somewhere between the Sonata and Elantra.
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That wagon looks good.
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^ That wagon is nice, but does it come with the...
Old 04-06-2011, 03:58 PM
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Venza-ish
Old 04-06-2011, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Isn't that an Elantra hatch?
While the i40 has an Elantra-esque front fascia, it is a new model that will compete in the same segment in which the Euro Accord competes (a little smaller than the US "midsize" sedans w/ better interiors).

Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Venza-ish
Actually, the i40 and the Venza have fairly diff. rear window panels/D-pillars.

Also, the i40 takes a lot of its design cues from the HED-2 concept dating back to 2006.




Based on an early Auto Express review, the i40 shows promise.


While Hyundai has proved it can build great small motors, it has never made a decent big family car. Until now! The i40 is good to drive, handsome and has an excellent diesel unit.



Its cabin isn’t quite as refined as some rivals’, but it is comfortable, spacious, and there’s no lack of standard equipment. We have no doubt this car will rattle the established class players.

But try ignoring the new i40! This is where Hyundai gets serious about the family car market – and the likes of Ford, VW, Vauxhall and Toyota should be very worried indeed. Arriving first as an estate, and later as a four-door saloon, the i40 is big, attractive (if a touch overstyled) and has the talent to win sales both from family and company car buyers.


The most popular version will be this: the estate, with Hyundai’s new 136bhp 1.7-litre diesel. It has an impressive 325Nm torque output and pulls strongly in any of its six gears – and claims a superb 62mpg on the combined cycle. The i40 is also good to drive. It’s not as sharp as the Mondeo, perhaps, but with Sports suspension, it boasts well weighted steering and excellent body control, as well as a comfortable ride.

The cabin isn’t quite up to Ford Mondeo or VW Passat standards, but it’s certainly not far off. It is very spacious and comfortable, too, while the 577-litre boot is bettered in the class only by the huge Passat.

Hyundai has always fitted its cars with plentiful standard kit. This means the i40 will get a host of great toys, including Audi-style LED daytime running lights, air-con, a system that automatically adjusts the heating when it detects your windscreen is fogging up, a leather steering wheel and reclining rear seats.

There are also nine airbags and an array of electronic controls to keep you on the straight and narrow. A power tailgate and automatic parking system will be optional.
Engines will also include a 113g/km version of the 1.7-litre oil-burner, plus a faster 160bhp unit, due later this year. Petrol customers will have the choice of 135bhp 1.6-litre or 177bhp 2.0-litre motors.

In short, this handsome car is spacious, comfortable, well equipped, and has a good engine and chassis. Ford should definitely be concerned!






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Is this coming to NA?
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I don't see where anything but the wagon would fit in the USDM lineup.
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first time seeing the hybrid on the road... looked good...

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that front end grille with the chrome mustache
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It has some good potential to look very clean. I like it!

And I like the fact that it looks substantially different from the regular gas Sonatas. I hate when other cars just put the hybrid emblem on the car and be done with it.
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I've seen it on the road.... I really have no words to describe it in detail. The normal Sonata has grown on me, it looks great with the optional 18" (?) wheels, but the hybrid front end is a clusterfuck
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hybrid's front end is just narsty
Old 05-30-2011, 12:13 AM
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first time seeing the hybrid on the road... looked good...
dude did you actually see the vehicle?

The NA and turbo models look great, but that hybrid front end says ugly ass "catfish".
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Originally Posted by Slayer
dude did you actually see the vehicle?

The NA and turbo models look great, but that hybrid front end says ugly ass "catfish".
did I actually "see" the vehicle? No, I randomly pressed the shutter bottom on my camera and just happened to capture it... I kinda like it so

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Car and Driver did a road test on the Sonata Hybrid:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test


Highs: Velvety ride, looks particularly rich in white, you can get a Sonata that isn’t a hybrid.

Lows: Accelerating, steering, stopping; everything affected by it being a hybrid.


PRICE AS TESTED: $31,680 (base price: $26,545)
ENGINE TYPE: DOHC Atkinson-cycle 2.4-liter inline -4, 166 hp, 154 lb-ft; permanent magnet AC synchronous electric motor, 40 hp, 151 lb-ft; combined power rating, 206 hp, 193 lb-ft; 1.4-kWh lithium-polymer battery pack
TRANSMISSION: 6-speed automatic
DIMENSIONS:
Curb weight: 3648 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 9.5 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 26.4 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 10.0 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 4.9 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 6.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 17.1 sec @ 83 mph
Top speed (drag limited): 121 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 199 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.73 g
FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 35/40 mpg
C/D observed: 27 mpg

TEST NOTES: Crippling understeer on the pad—especially to the right—and it isn’t inhibited by ESP. No brake feel whatsoever. Can’t brake torque or aid launch in any way.
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C/D observed: 27 mpg
Isn't this about what the regular gas model gets?
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Highs: Velvety ride, looks particularly rich in white, you can get a Sonata that isn’t a hybrid.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
that front end grille with the chrome mustache
It makes the Acura beak look good.
Old 06-15-2011, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
It makes the Acura beak look good.
I might not go that far, but I do agree both the Sonata Hybrid front end and the Acura front ends are quite polarizing to say the least.
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Acura beak > Sonata hybrid moustache, though. that's for sure. now the level of variation is up for debate.
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Originally Posted by biker
Isn't this about what the regular gas model gets?
C/D got 24mpg for BOTH 200hp model and 274hp 2.0T model. So..the hybrid is an improvement
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Based on the early reviews of the Sonata hybrid, it seems like Hyundai has a way to go before they get their hybrid system working optimally.

Otoh, Ford's next Fusion hybrid seems like it's going to be a winner.
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I never understood the whole "lol, hybrids should look more differentiated from their non-hybrid counterparts" thing.... in the Sonata Hybrid's case is where wishful thinking gets ugly.
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Originally Posted by YEH
Ford's next Fusion hybrid seems like it's going to be a winner.
I thought it already won a bunch of awards, no?
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I never understood the whole "lol, hybrids should look more differentiated from their non-hybrid counterparts" thing.... in the Sonata Hybrid's case is where wishful thinking gets ugly.
I thought the same thing. It looks awful in photos but much better in person.
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I saw one in the airport in Korea (ICN is one of the best airport in the world. So nicely built and maintaining the quality well over the several years I've been using).

Maybe the grille looks better than the picture. But it was still weird and ugly to me.
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I just want the tail lights off the hybrid. I like the floating atom design.
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EU i40 site

http://www.hyundai-i40.eu/#/en/welcome
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Wow, it looks great. I'm really getting the warm and fuzzies for Hyundai, never thought they would come this far. I can really sense them establishing their own design language and identity now.

What is the i40? Is it going to be the refreshed Sonata?
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didn't we already go through this? that looks like it's the Elantra
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Well, why is it in this thread then?

edit, it does look like the Elantra
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It looks like the Elantra because it wears the corporate design theme. But the i40 is bigger. It's EU's equivalent to the YF.
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meaning sonata.
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Ahh, thanks for the clarification. If that's what the MMC is gonna look like then I approve. I like the current Sonata, especially with the larger optional wheels but the i40 looks even better IMO


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