Hyundai: Sonata News
#922
yeah the front is more Elantra than Sonata. are we sure about this?
#923
I shoot people
that's true, it does look a lot more like the Elantra, but if you look at the link I posted above, it does show the same car...
here's that link again... but in the comments area, there are at least a couple that mentioned it too
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/12/13/g...dere/#comments
here's that link again... but in the comments area, there are at least a couple that mentioned it too
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/12/13/g...dere/#comments
#924
Safety Car
it does look like it.. i guess it's because of the grille area..
but i think VF = i40 = sonata wagon...
and it looks bigger than elentra to me..
by the way, i'm looking to buy elentra for my wife.. it's not that cheap anymore >_<
but i think VF = i40 = sonata wagon...
and it looks bigger than elentra to me..
by the way, i'm looking to buy elentra for my wife.. it's not that cheap anymore >_<
#925
I drive a Subata.
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damn that wagon looks good!
#927
Senior Moderator
That wagon looks good.
#928
I'm the Firestarter
^ That wagon is nice, but does it come with the...
#929
The sizzle in the Steak
Venza-ish
#930
While the i40 has an Elantra-esque front fascia, it is a new model that will compete in the same segment in which the Euro Accord competes (a little smaller than the US "midsize" sedans w/ better interiors).
Actually, the i40 and the Venza have fairly diff. rear window panels/D-pillars.
Also, the i40 takes a lot of its design cues from the HED-2 concept dating back to 2006.
Based on an early Auto Express review, the i40 shows promise.
Actually, the i40 and the Venza have fairly diff. rear window panels/D-pillars.
Also, the i40 takes a lot of its design cues from the HED-2 concept dating back to 2006.
Based on an early Auto Express review, the i40 shows promise.
While Hyundai has proved it can build great small motors, it has never made a decent big family car. Until now! The i40 is good to drive, handsome and has an excellent diesel unit.
Its cabin isn’t quite as refined as some rivals’, but it is comfortable, spacious, and there’s no lack of standard equipment. We have no doubt this car will rattle the established class players.
But try ignoring the new i40! This is where Hyundai gets serious about the family car market – and the likes of Ford, VW, Vauxhall and Toyota should be very worried indeed. Arriving first as an estate, and later as a four-door saloon, the i40 is big, attractive (if a touch overstyled) and has the talent to win sales both from family and company car buyers.
The most popular version will be this: the estate, with Hyundai’s new 136bhp 1.7-litre diesel. It has an impressive 325Nm torque output and pulls strongly in any of its six gears – and claims a superb 62mpg on the combined cycle. The i40 is also good to drive. It’s not as sharp as the Mondeo, perhaps, but with Sports suspension, it boasts well weighted steering and excellent body control, as well as a comfortable ride.
The cabin isn’t quite up to Ford Mondeo or VW Passat standards, but it’s certainly not far off. It is very spacious and comfortable, too, while the 577-litre boot is bettered in the class only by the huge Passat.
Hyundai has always fitted its cars with plentiful standard kit. This means the i40 will get a host of great toys, including Audi-style LED daytime running lights, air-con, a system that automatically adjusts the heating when it detects your windscreen is fogging up, a leather steering wheel and reclining rear seats.
There are also nine airbags and an array of electronic controls to keep you on the straight and narrow. A power tailgate and automatic parking system will be optional.
Engines will also include a 113g/km version of the 1.7-litre oil-burner, plus a faster 160bhp unit, due later this year. Petrol customers will have the choice of 135bhp 1.6-litre or 177bhp 2.0-litre motors.
Engines will also include a 113g/km version of the 1.7-litre oil-burner, plus a faster 160bhp unit, due later this year. Petrol customers will have the choice of 135bhp 1.6-litre or 177bhp 2.0-litre motors.
In short, this handsome car is spacious, comfortable, well equipped, and has a good engine and chassis. Ford should definitely be concerned!
Last edited by YEH; 04-06-2011 at 11:22 PM.
#933
I shoot people
first time seeing the hybrid on the road... looked good...
#934
The sizzle in the Steak
that front end grille with the chrome mustache
#935
I drive a Subata.
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It has some good potential to look very clean. I like it!
And I like the fact that it looks substantially different from the regular gas Sonatas. I hate when other cars just put the hybrid emblem on the car and be done with it.
And I like the fact that it looks substantially different from the regular gas Sonatas. I hate when other cars just put the hybrid emblem on the car and be done with it.
#936
I've seen it on the road.... I really have no words to describe it in detail. The normal Sonata has grown on me, it looks great with the optional 18" (?) wheels, but the hybrid front end is a clusterfuck
#937
hybrid's front end is just narsty
#939
I shoot people
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Car and Driver did a road test on the Sonata Hybrid:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
Highs: Velvety ride, looks particularly rich in white, you can get a Sonata that isn’t a hybrid.
Lows: Accelerating, steering, stopping; everything affected by it being a hybrid.
PRICE AS TESTED: $31,680 (base price: $26,545)
ENGINE TYPE: DOHC Atkinson-cycle 2.4-liter inline -4, 166 hp, 154 lb-ft; permanent magnet AC synchronous electric motor, 40 hp, 151 lb-ft; combined power rating, 206 hp, 193 lb-ft; 1.4-kWh lithium-polymer battery pack
TRANSMISSION: 6-speed automatic
DIMENSIONS:
Curb weight: 3648 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 9.5 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 26.4 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 10.0 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 4.9 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 6.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 17.1 sec @ 83 mph
Top speed (drag limited): 121 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 199 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.73 g
FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 35/40 mpg
C/D observed: 27 mpg
TEST NOTES: Crippling understeer on the pad—especially to the right—and it isn’t inhibited by ESP. No brake feel whatsoever. Can’t brake torque or aid launch in any way.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
Highs: Velvety ride, looks particularly rich in white, you can get a Sonata that isn’t a hybrid.
Lows: Accelerating, steering, stopping; everything affected by it being a hybrid.
PRICE AS TESTED: $31,680 (base price: $26,545)
ENGINE TYPE: DOHC Atkinson-cycle 2.4-liter inline -4, 166 hp, 154 lb-ft; permanent magnet AC synchronous electric motor, 40 hp, 151 lb-ft; combined power rating, 206 hp, 193 lb-ft; 1.4-kWh lithium-polymer battery pack
TRANSMISSION: 6-speed automatic
DIMENSIONS:
Curb weight: 3648 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 9.5 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 26.4 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 10.0 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 4.9 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 6.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 17.1 sec @ 83 mph
Top speed (drag limited): 121 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 199 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.73 g
FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 35/40 mpg
C/D observed: 27 mpg
TEST NOTES: Crippling understeer on the pad—especially to the right—and it isn’t inhibited by ESP. No brake feel whatsoever. Can’t brake torque or aid launch in any way.
#942
Highs: Velvety ride, looks particularly rich in white, you can get a Sonata that isn’t a hybrid.
#944
The sizzle in the Steak
#945
Acura beak > Sonata hybrid moustache, though. that's for sure. now the level of variation is up for debate.
#947
Based on the early reviews of the Sonata hybrid, it seems like Hyundai has a way to go before they get their hybrid system working optimally.
Otoh, Ford's next Fusion hybrid seems like it's going to be a winner.
Otoh, Ford's next Fusion hybrid seems like it's going to be a winner.
#948
I never understood the whole "lol, hybrids should look more differentiated from their non-hybrid counterparts" thing.... in the Sonata Hybrid's case is where wishful thinking gets ugly.
#949
I shoot people
#950
אני עומד עם ישראל
^ Yes it has.
#952
Safety Car
I saw one in the airport in Korea (ICN is one of the best airport in the world. So nicely built and maintaining the quality well over the several years I've been using).
Maybe the grille looks better than the picture. But it was still weird and ugly to me.
Maybe the grille looks better than the picture. But it was still weird and ugly to me.
#955
Wow, it looks great. I'm really getting the warm and fuzzies for Hyundai, never thought they would come this far. I can really sense them establishing their own design language and identity now.
What is the i40? Is it going to be the refreshed Sonata?
What is the i40? Is it going to be the refreshed Sonata?
#956
didn't we already go through this? that looks like it's the Elantra
#957
Well, why is it in this thread then?
edit, it does look like the Elantra
edit, it does look like the Elantra
#960
Ahh, thanks for the clarification. If that's what the MMC is gonna look like then I approve. I like the current Sonata, especially with the larger optional wheels but the i40 looks even better IMO