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Old 07-03-2018, 01:13 PM
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Even at $56135CA ? That's MDX level.

Congrats for your new RDX.
Way to shit on his parade.

I see there are still those who value space over anything else. The current MDX not only is ugly (ugh fitting the precision concept front end on existing models is not pretty), but it's interior is getting dated and tech is aging. It's also well into its production cycle and going to be replaced sooner, vs a brand new model.

So yeah, he could have more cabin room... And sacrifice good looks, a new and much more upscale interior, newer tech, more features, etc...

Let's also be honest. The next gen MDX will cost more also.
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Thanks guys! Ya,I'd been waiting patiently for a long time for Acura to be "back." Some of you probably seen my previous posts about how I believe in Jon Ikeda and how he is the man to turn Acura around and what not. The new RDX is definitely a big step in the right direction. Now Acura gotta build on this by expanding the makeover to other models, and add a Type S trim for all models, etc.

Haha I totally understand that first year models can be troublesome, especially for something with so many new features. Then again, my previous RDX was a 1st year model too and it was very reliable. The CTR so far has been great too but I guess it's not exactly a first year model since it's not the first model year for the 10th gen Civic.

We also test drove the MDX Sport Hybrid but that is $70k CAD since it only comes in one trim (the highest one). Yea, the MDX just feels dated since it basically came out 5 years ago. It's also got a bit too much space for our needs since it's just me, my wife, and my 5 month-old for the most part. And being a car guy, it's hard to turn down newer powertrain (i.e. K20C4 + 10AT + new gen SH-AWD).

TacoBello nailed it in his post in terms of what I like more.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/honda-t...ble-1533484840

Honda Took Pride in Doing Everything Itself. The Cost of Technology Made That Impossible.

The car maker outsources key tech for electric vehicles and autonomous driving to fight high R&D costs

Aug. 5, 2018 12:00 p.m. ET

TOKYO—A semiautonomous Honda SUV was traveling down a test track at 20 miles an hour in March last year when a child-size test dummy moved into the middle of the road. Oblivious, the Honda mowed it down.

It was part of a brutal day of Japanese government testing for Honda Motor Co. HMC 1.81% , whose vehicle was equipped with a camera and sensors that were supposed to detect obstacles and apply brakes to avoid a collision. The SUV scored 0.2 out of a possible 25 points in the pedestrian portion of the test, the worst among tested vehicles.

With its long heritage of technical prowess, Honda was determined to do better—and it did. But Honda engineering didn’t get it there. The car maker turned to an off-the-shelf sensing kit from Robert Bosch GmbH, the companies said. With the Bosch technology, the new Honda Civic took the same test in November and scored 24.4 out of 25.




Honda’s decision to go shopping points to a radical culture change at one of Japan’s proudest companies, where founder Soichiro Honda in the 1960s said, “We refuse to depend on anyone else.” The struggle at the entrepreneurial success story cuts deep into Japan’s sense of itself as a global leader in technology.

Honda once used staff technicians to design new technologies ranging from engines to the shape of the suspension arms. Today, Honda believes rapid shifts in technology mean it can no longer afford to keep pace working solely on its own.

That is raising hackles among some within the company who complain about “PowerPoint engineering”—where engineers assemble slides showing how they will patch together others’ technology rather than build it themselves.

“Honda is changing things that Honda should not change,” said Hideaki Tsuru, who worked in Honda’s R&D arm for 20 years until retiring in 2016. He said making unique products is “Honda’s soul.”

Car makers around the world are under stress from the huge investments needed to develop new technologies used in electric vehicles and autonomous driving. To trim costs, most are leaning on megasuppliers such as Bosch, Continental AG and Denso Corp. , as well as smaller companies with cutting-edge technology such as Intel Corp. subsidiary Mobileye.

“We want to work with those that possess the best technology, regardless of whether they are Japanese suppliers or American ones or European ones,” said Honda’s chief executive, Takahiro Hachigo, in an interview.

Honda has announced deals with Chinese search giant Baidu Inc. to develop mapping technology for autonomous vehicles, and with Chinese startup SenseTime Co. to build camera software for self-driving vehicles. The company has a deal with SoftBank Corp. for artificial intelligence that SoftBank says will be able to read a driver’s emotions, so that in the future cars can perform tasks such as suggesting music based on your mood.

Honda, which prides itself above all on its engines, is farming out the development of an electric motor. Hitachi Ltd.’s auto-parts division has the majority stake in a joint venture with Honda that will make electric motors for Honda cars by March 2021. By 2030, two-thirds of its cars will be partially or fully electric, Mr. Hachigo said. In June, Honda also said it would buy electric-car batteries from General Motors Co.




For Honda, whose official name translates as Honda Technical Research Industry, the shift to outsourcing is forcing it to rethink its identity as a creator of unique auto technologies. Some of its most famous products include a navigation system that pre-dated civilian use of GPS, and the CVCC engine, which used less fuel and cut emissions. At the time of the engine’s unveiling in 1972, Honda’s then-head of engine research, Shizuo Yagi, trumpeted: “We at Honda did everything on our own.”

For many Japanese, Honda reflected the originality and self-confidence that turned the country into an industrial powerhouse after World War II. Today, Japanese manufacturers’ lead in quality over upstarts in South Korea and China is narrowing, and Japan’s car industry has fallen behind Silicon Valley and Europe on the software development needed to build complex self-driving vehicles.

In recent years, the challenges of competing with bigger companies with higher profits—in particular Toyota Motor Corp. —have dogged Honda. Bigger companies have an advantage in absorbing the high cost of developing technology. Honda’s R&D budget was about 5% of revenue last year, compared with Toyota’s 3.5% of revenue.

Toyota, which makes about 10 million cars a year, twice Honda’s number, has said it would spend billions of dollars on in-house research into self-driving cars. The company took full ownership of Daihatsu in 2016 and owns stakes in Mazda Motor Corp. and Subaru Corp. The companies work together on next-generation technologies, helping lower Toyota’s costs.

The alliance of Renault SA, Nissan Motor Co. and Mitsubishi Motor Corp. aims to sell 14 million cars by 2022. Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV’s late CEO Sergio Marchionne once called for a merger to create a car maker that could sell 15 million vehicles a year, in part to achieve greater savings, although he later said the company could survive on its own. It shipped 4.7 million cars last year.

Mr. Hachigo has said Honda isn’t interested in merging with another car maker.

The company was founded in 1946 by Soichiro Honda, a tinkerer who loved to battle the giants with his own innovations. He and a dozen workers took engines intended for small electric generators and attached them to bicycles, the first Honda product. Within 15 years, a Honda motorcycle was beating European rivals at the Isle of Man motorcycle race.

Around that time, Mr. Honda rushed out a prototype automobile despite having almost no experience in building them, in defiance of a planned Japanese law that would have restricted entry in the market.

Today, Honda employs more than 200,000 people around the world. As it grew, the company started to prioritize profits over innovation, a cost-cutting strategy that lowered quality and led to a backlash from fans and hurt sales, former Honda executives said.

The global financial crisis in 2008 and floods in Thailand in 2011, which disrupted the supply of parts, hammered Honda’s profits. The chief executive at the time, Takanobu Ito, sought to overhaul the company to make it leaner and bigger, fearing Honda would be left behind if it didn’t pursue Toyota-like scale.

In 2012, Mr. Ito said Honda would double car sales to six million by 2017 by concentrating on sales in emerging markets like China and India. Key to that strategy was an updated Fit hatchback that would be of high-enough quality to be sold in the U.S. and Japan, but inexpensive enough for India and China. Mr. Hachigo, in the interview, said that idea was impractical because of the vast differences in the markets.

Mr. Ito sought to rein in the independence of Honda’s powerful research and development arm in an effort to trim spending on projects with no obvious commercial benefit—a past project had researchers studying the cockroach nervous system, according to former engineers and executives. The group still operates with its own parallel management structure, but research projects need the approval of headquarters, one of the former executives said.

The rush for size combined with efforts to cut costs caused disarray. Honda’s ninth-generation Civic, which went on sale in 2011, was panned for its poor-quality materials. Critics pointed to poor handling and a cheap interior, which were uncharacteristic of past Hondas. The Fit, which shared many components with the Civic, had to be recalled five times in the year following its introduction in 2013.

By the end of his term, Mr. Ito was already reversing course, dropping his sales target and allowing engineers more leeway in designing the 10th generation Civic, which got favorable reviews.

Mr. Hachigo, a Honda lifer who had helped build the China business, took over in 2015. Echoing his predecessor’s own self-criticism, Mr. Hachigo said the company spread itself too thin chasing growth.

The new tone was clear in the announcement last year on the deal with Hitachi for electric motors. “Rather than one company doing everything, it is important to gather the best parts and assemble them into one vehicle,” Mr. Hachigo said.

Potential tariffs or revisions to the North American Free Trade Agreement could complicate Honda’s business. The car maker assembles about three-quarters of the vehicles it sells in the U.S. at American factories. But it has expanded in Mexico, where its latest plant, in Celaya, can produce 200,000 cars and SUVs, over half of which are exported to the U.S.

Honda’s changed strategy emerged in the back-and-forth over Honda Sensing, its semiautonomous driving system. Earlier versions of the system were co-developed by Honda and a subsidiary, called Honda Elesys, which was sold in 2013. One person who worked on it said that by 2014 Honda was talking to Bosch about supplying a new system because the Elesys system couldn’t reliably distinguish pedestrians from other objects—Honda warned on its Japanese website the camera might not properly identify objects smaller than 1 meter or taller than 2 meters.

The car maker had hoped to persuade Bosch to build something unique for it but eventually decided to buy an off-the-shelf system after the German company, which deals with practically every major auto maker, said it was impractical, the person said.

Spokespeople at both companies confirmed that Honda uses Bosch equipment for Honda Sensing but declined to discuss the decision-making process. Honda Sensing, which is meant to assist the driver on tasks such as maintaining a constant distance behind another vehicle or in sudden braking to avoid an accident, is now standard on many models.

The company’s next challenge is to develop cars with fuller self-driving abilities. Honda has said it plans to sell a vehicle that can drive autonomously on highways by 2020.

Its peers have more ambitious schedules: Nissan has said its vehicles will be able to drive themselves on city streets by 2020, while GM has said it aims to run a large-scale fleet of driverless cars in big U.S. cities by 2019.

Honda said it wants to combine in-house research with the fruits of tie-ups such as the one with SenseTime, the Chinese company that builds software to identify people and objects seen through a car’s cameras.

In a demonstration for journalists last summer, Honda’s self-driving prototype rolled through a stop sign without halting. A Honda spokesman said the vehicle was an early prototype and that its performance is now much improved as a result of collaboration with SenseTime.

Honda’s eventual self-driving system will likely have only a fraction of its software written by Honda engineers, said Yuji Yasui, chief engineer for autonomous vehicles.

“Car makers focus on developing some things, suppliers on others,” he said. “We haven’t changed. What changed is that it is inefficient for Honda to do everything ourselves.”
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/03/gm-a...s-vehicle.html

GM and Honda team up to build an autonomous vehicle

Published 1 Min Ago

Honda is taking a stake in General Motors subsidiary Cruise Holdings as part of a plan for the Japanese and American automakers to work together developing and building an autonomous vehicle.

The investment of $2.8 billion over the next 12 years includes Honda paying GM $750 million immediately as it takes a 5.7 percent stake in Cruise Holdings.

General Motors said the Honda investment puts the Cruise valuation at $14.6 billion. It comes just months after Softbank's Vision Fund invested $2.25 billion in the GM unit.

Together, GM and Honda will develop and build a wide-use autonomous vehicle intended to be deployed worldwide. The vehicle will be manufactured at a General Motors plant, though no date has been set yet for deployment of the vehicle.

"This is the logical next step in General Motors and Honda's relationship, given our joint work on electric vehicles, and our close integration with Cruise," said General Motors Chairman and CEO Mary Barra.

"Together, we can provide Cruise with the world's best design, engineering and manufacturing expertise, and global reach to establish them as the leader in autonomous vehicle technology – while they move to deploy self-driving vehicles at scale."

The move comes at a time when automakers around the world are making multibillion investments and long-range plans for rolling out autonomous-vehicles. Many analysts believe the widespread adoption of these vehicles will likely start to pick up starting in 2021 or 2022.

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Honda, with its Chinese partner GAC, has launched a new all-electric crossover in China and it’s going to sell for the equivalent of just ~$25,000 USD.
The Japanese automaker doesn’t have much to show for itself when it comes to electrification.

It has been delivering relatively low volumes of the electric version of the Clarity and it has plans for a few new electric models – starting next year with a retro-looking EV.

But the Chinese market has introduced a lot of regulations and incentives for automakers to accelerate the electrification of their offerings.

This has resulted in China getting many new EVs that are not available anywhere else.

Honda introduced another Chinese-exclusive EV this week at Guangzhou Auto Show: The Honda Everus VE-1.

It is similar in size and design to the popular HR-V subcompact crossover and it is going to retail at only 170,800 yuan (~$25,000 USD) after incentives.

For the price, it features a decent electric powertrain with a 53.6 kWh battery pack and a 120 kW electric motor that can deliver a range of 340 km (211 miles of range). However, that’s apparently based on the NEDC standard and buyers should expect a significantly lower real-world range.

Production is expected to start by the end of the year. Along with consumer sales, Honda also plans to use the vehicle for an electric car sharing service.

https://electrek.co/2018/11/21/honda...us-ve-1-china/

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One of the main knocks on battery-electric and hybrid cars is that the chemicals, heavy metals and production processes that go into making their lithium-ion batteries aren't much better, environmentally speaking, than the pollution footprint of their hydrocarbon-spewing internal combustion brethren. To help change that, Honda, along with researchers at the California Institute of Technology and NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, is developing a new battery chemistry using fluoride instead of lithium.

The team authored a paper on the topic, now published online in the journal Science.

"Fluoride-ion batteries offer a promising new battery chemistry with up to 10 times more energy density than currently available lithium batteries," said Dr. Christopher Brooks, chief scientist, Honda Research Institute, and a co-author of the paper. "Unlike Li-ion batteries, FIBs do not pose a safety risk due to overheating, and obtaining the source materials for FIBs creates considerably less environmental impact than the extraction process for lithium and cobalt."
Fluoride-ion batteries could offer longer range and shorter charging times.

Lithium-ion and metal hydride batteries are limited by the properties of their electrodes. Fluorine, according to the study, could offer up to 10 times greater energy densities. Currently, fluoride batteries need to operate at temps above 150 degrees Celsius, about 300 F, but the team has figured out a way to create a fluoride-ion electrochemical cell capable of operating at room temperature. They did this creating a stable liquid fluoride electrolyte with a wide operating voltage.

“The scientists developed the electrolyte using dry tetraalkylammonium fluoride salts dissolved in an organic, fluorinated ether solvent. When paired with a composite cathode featuring a core-shell nanostructure of copper, lanthanum and fluorine, the researchers demonstrated reversible electrochemical cycling at room temperature.”

See? Simple. Better chemicals equal cleaner, longer-lasting batteries.

Honda says that these batteries could power electric vehicles in the future, as well as other power-hungry products.


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Honda has revealed a sketch of an upcoming EV concept bound for the Geneva motor show in March, following up on the similarly styled Urban EV concept seen at the 2017 Frankfurt motor show. Styled like a first genCVCC, the 2017 concept was about the size of the current https://autoweek.com/vehicles/honda/fit-- just a few inches shorter -- and the Urban EV concept was said to be headed into production at the time, along with a battery-electric drivetrain.

"This is not some vision of the distant future; a production version of this car will be here in Europe in 2019," Honda Motor Co. President and CEO Takahiro Hachigo said at the 2017 Frankfurt show.

If anything, the released sketch preview confirms Honda is sticking with the retro CVCC looks, but the design has evolved a bit since the 2017 concept car. Prototypes have already been spotted running with four doors instead of two and wearing quite ordinary wheels instead of the larger multispoke wheels seen on the concept.

In Geneva in 2018, the automaker planned for the production version to go on sale later this year, at least for some markets.

"A production version of this highly acclaimed concept will be introduced to Europe during late 2019, and in response to the positive feedback to this model, we expect to open order banks for the Urban EV during early 2019," Philip Ross, senior vice president of Honda Motor Europe said in 2018.





Curiously enough, there is no word regarding U.S. sales: Back in 2017, Honda stated that the production car would be sold in Europe and that it would be premium-priced. But the automaker has not made any indications about a possible North American launch. We should also note that both concepts, the 2017 and the upcoming 2019 concept which will be a near-production prototype, have appeared and will be appearing at European auto shows. If Honda had any U.S. plans for the production version, we would have had some indication by now.

"Honda’s 'Electric Vision' strategy, launched at the 2017 Geneva Motor Show, includes the development of a dedicated electric vehicle platform, featuring fully electric powertrain technology," Honda said about the 2017 concept in Frankfurt. "Key parts of the powertrain development will include a high-density, lightweight battery pack, integrated heat management and the evolution of energy transfer functions -- both to and from the vehicle."

The automaker has also said little about range, but one source at Honda had indicated the production would feature a relatively short range: 150 to 200 miles on a full charge. It's a small car, after all.



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Looks like a Honda Golf. Overall, not bad looking, but likely to be expensive, as EVs are here.
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Honda is bringing a new, more production-ready version of the Urban EV to the 2019 Geneva motor show, and the automaker has already given us a taste of what we can expect with a front-end rendering. Compared to the CVCC-inspired electric concept that Honda revealed in 2017, we expect the new prototype to be a little bit less retro and a little bit less fanciful ... something that seems to be backed up by the shadowy interior teaser image released ahead of the unveil.

The image shows three large screens that span nearly entirely the width of the dashboard, perhaps with two smaller screens in the corners (digital side-view mirrors?). There are just a few buttons below the center screen. It's still very minimalist, but it doesn't quite have the concept-car drama of previous renderings, which showed a single, seamless, nearly cockpit-spanning screen sitting on top of the dashboard, plus what appeared to be screens in the door panels.

This more pragmatic approach to infotainment isn't really a surprise -- we're not even sure if it's possible to build a touchscreen of that size in anything approaching a cost-effective manner. Whether or not the taillight assembly will still be able to display messages remains to be seen.

The prototype, which will be unveiled on March 5, previews a production EV that Honda says will debut later in 2019. It will be offered in Europe; we have no reason to believe it's headed to North American markets anytime soon, as Honda's green strategy for our market seems to rely on hybrids rather than pure EVs.



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I would be interested in one for the wife to replace the rdx in the future. Looks pretty good!
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https://www.carscoops.com/2019/03/ho...to-production/

Honda appears likely to bring its retro Sports EV Concept into production.

Last week, the Japanese car manufacturer unveiled the e prototype, a near-production version of theUrban EV Concept from 2017. This vehicle uses an electric platform designed for A- and B-segment electric vehicles and appears likely to spawn a two-door sports car.

While recently speaking with Autocar, Honda prototype manager Kohei Hitomi said that he’d like to see the vehicle’s platform be used for a sports model.

“It can be any car. It can be a sporty car or a box-type car. Personally, I’d very much welcome a sporty car on that platform,” he said.

If Honda does indeed put the Sports EV Concept into production, it will likely retain many of the concept’s retro styling cues. However, some changes would be made before the vehicle hits the road.

For starters, Honda would likely ditch the squircle-shaped headlights and taillights in favor of round lights, as it’s done with the e prototype. Additionally, a production-spec Sports EV Concept would inevitably feature smaller wheels and maybe ditch the glowing Honda logos found front and rear.

The interior would also be tamed for the road and rather than utilizing a single screen stretching the width of the dashboard, the Sports EV Concept would likely feature the same five-screen layout as the e prototype. An additional screen would be found in place of the rear-view mirror.

Honda has confirmed that the e prototype’s platform is rear-wheel drive, meaning a future electric sports cars should provide customers with more than enough driving thrills.
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This would be sweet as it will be RWD too!
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