Honda: Civic News
06-05-2011, 04:15 PM
#2441
I drive a Subata.
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damn that frontal shot of Focus is impressive.
and I love how that Honda God is saying the transmission of Focus is mismanaged.
and I love how that Honda God is saying the transmission of Focus is mismanaged.
06-05-2011, 06:59 PM
#2442
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I think he was talking about the 6-speed dual clutch tranny which sounds good on paper but in the real world it's not that great because it's reluctant to downshift?
06-06-2011, 02:18 PM
#2443
Whats up with RDX owners?
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06-06-2011, 02:38 PM
#2444
Team Owner
Flooring a car repeatedly means driving at highest speeds on wide open road or repeated merging/passing. not stuck in city traffic. The lowest i got 22mpg.
TSX is faster in normal mode than Ford Focus in sport mode when both are equiped with lighter 18inch wheel/summer performance tire combo.
TSX is faster in normal mode than Ford Focus in sport mode when both are equiped with lighter 18inch wheel/summer performance tire combo.
and TSX is superior than focus.. DUH... i would think so too..
06-06-2011, 02:42 PM
#2445
Team Owner
I don't know about material quality since I haven't sat in it, but the Focus LOOKS more expensive than the Civic interior-wise. I think Honda sort of dropped the ball on the Civic interiors lately (not that they were ever awesome). The Accord interiors have definitely gotten worse though.
Those highway fuel economy numbers for the Civic (and a lot of econoboxes lately - in comparison to midsize and fullsize sedans) aren't that good. My 3G TL Type-S (6MT) regularly averages 33-36 MPG on the highway, and it's far, FAR heavier than the Civic.
Those highway fuel economy numbers for the Civic (and a lot of econoboxes lately - in comparison to midsize and fullsize sedans) aren't that good. My 3G TL Type-S (6MT) regularly averages 33-36 MPG on the highway, and it's far, FAR heavier than the Civic.
2k RPM at 80mph ftw
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06-06-2011, 02:54 PM
#2446
Torque 
06-06-2011, 04:52 PM
#2447
Team Owner
06-06-2011, 05:00 PM
#2448
I drive a Subata.
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SSFTSX just kicked in yo
06-06-2011, 05:01 PM
#2449
I drive a Subata.
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The ultimate mod for the 9th gen Civic: SSFTSX
Instant win no matter what you are up against.
Instant win no matter what you are up against.
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06-06-2011, 05:06 PM
#2450
I know Ford focus. i was testing its engine/transmission/suspension setup for $29K car.
Even my 25k old summer performance tire has better noise/handling than new Pilot Sport on Titanium.
Look at size of dash. The car is totally out of proportions.
06-06-2011, 05:23 PM
#2451
I drive a Subata.
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See?
He gives you WINNING every time.
It's all about WINNING.
He gives you WINNING every time.
It's all about WINNING.
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06-06-2011, 06:17 PM
#2452
Team Owner
how? i have driven TSX at fastest speed possible for 30minutes in 3rd and it still returned 22mpg. I doubt u can floor it much more than that and get 15mpg. TSX is not going to get less than 22mpg unless you drive at 140mph.
I know Ford focus. i was testing its engine/transmission/suspension setup for $29K car.
Even my 25k old summer performance tire has better noise/handling than new Pilot Sport on Titanium.
Look at size of dash. The car is totally out of proportions.
I know Ford focus. i was testing its engine/transmission/suspension setup for $29K car.
Even my 25k old summer performance tire has better noise/handling than new Pilot Sport on Titanium.
Look at size of dash. The car is totally out of proportions.
#2. Crusing at 140mph
is not going to give you the worst MPG#3. i can think of 10 possible ways to get 15mpg in a TSX.
#4. If i could manage to get 220 miles from a full tank in my gf's 08 civic then i can do much worse in a TSX
#5 Dont say "NO MATTER how you floor it"
#6 There are so many types of Pilot sport tires, which one are you talking about?
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06-06-2011, 06:21 PM
#2453
Shape of brake pedal cover in Focus Ford is has much better aesthetic. Therefive, Fords win 
06-06-2011, 06:22 PM
#2454
I drive a Subata.
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oonowindoo, stop trying to reason with him. Don't you get it?
Just be entertained.
Just be entertained.
06-06-2011, 06:23 PM
#2455
I drive a Subata.
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The navi screen on that bottom picture has finger prints on it, Civic wins again.
06-06-2011, 06:29 PM
#2456
Team Owner
Your activity is at 24.5%. You are now a Mini-whore. Second to Stogie.
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JS + XES (06-06-2011)
06-06-2011, 06:47 PM
#2457
#1. Who the fuck drives in 3rd gear at redline for 30 mins? NO CAR driving at redline will give you 22mpg except cars that dont need gas.. and u said fastest speed possible in 3rd.. that means redline in 3rd.
#2. Crusing at 140mph is not going to give you the worst MPG
#3. i can think of 10 possible ways to get 15mpg in a TSX.
#4. If i could manage to get 220 miles from a full tank in my gf's 08 civic then i can do much worse in a TSX
#5 Dont say "NO MATTER how you floor it"
#6 There are so many types of Pilot sport tires, which one are you talking about?
#2. Crusing at 140mph
is not going to give you the worst MPG#3. i can think of 10 possible ways to get 15mpg in a TSX.
#4. If i could manage to get 220 miles from a full tank in my gf's 08 civic then i can do much worse in a TSX
#5 Dont say "NO MATTER how you floor it"
#6 There are so many types of Pilot sport tires, which one are you talking about?
Your 10 possible ways does not include high speed driving to achieve 15mpg.
Civic is economical than TSX untill certain speed at most 80mph. Once you past that speed limit TSX better aerodynamics and effortless delivery of power produce more efficient drive.
Pilot sport many types? It does not ential big difference.
06-06-2011, 06:56 PM
#2458
I drive a Subata.
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06-06-2011, 06:56 PM
#2459
Team Owner
where i said about red line for TSX. put TSX in sport mode and you will reach triple digit speeds without touching red line in third. and yet you said FASTEST POSSIBLE SPEED IN 3rd. How can you going to achieve fastest possible speed in 3rd without hitting redline? We are talking about SPEED not Horsepower here
Your 10 possible ways does not include high speed driving to achieve 15mpg.
whatever, but there are still at least 10 possible ways to get 15mpg, So your statement "no matter how u floor it" is not valid
Civic is economical than TSX untill certain speed at most 80mph. Once you past that speed limit TSX better aerodynamics and effortless delivery of power produce more efficient drive. really?
Pilot sport many types? It does not ential big difference. yes and btw: whatever the pilot sport is, it is better than whatever that came with your TSX all season tires. I am guessing still the same Michelin MMX whatever crap that Honda likes so much
Your 10 possible ways does not include high speed driving to achieve 15mpg.
whatever, but there are still at least 10 possible ways to get 15mpg, So your statement "no matter how u floor it" is not valid
Civic is economical than TSX untill certain speed at most 80mph. Once you past that speed limit TSX better aerodynamics and effortless delivery of power produce more efficient drive. really?
Pilot sport many types? It does not ential big difference. yes and btw: whatever the pilot sport is, it is better than whatever that came with your TSX all season tires. I am guessing still the same Michelin MMX whatever crap that Honda likes so much
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06-06-2011, 06:57 PM
#2460
I drive a Subata.
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Wait.. is TSX still rocking a 5 speed auto transmission???
Last edited by JS + XES; 06-06-2011 at 07:00 PM.
06-06-2011, 08:01 PM
#2461
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where i said about red line for TSX. put TSX in sport mode and you will reach triple digit speeds without touching red line in third. and yet you said FASTEST POSSIBLE SPEED IN 3rd. How can you going to achieve fastest possible speed in 3rd without hitting redline? We are talking about SPEED not Horsepower here
Your 10 possible ways does not include high speed driving to achieve 15mpg.
whatever, but there are still at least 10 possible ways to get 15mpg, So your statement "no matter how u floor it" is not valid
Civic is economical than TSX untill certain speed at most 80mph. Once you past that speed limit TSX better aerodynamics and effortless delivery of power produce more efficient drive. really?
Pilot sport many types? It does not ential big difference. yes and btw: whatever the pilot sport is, it is better than whatever that came with your TSX all season tires. I am guessing still the same Michelin MMX whatever crap that Honda likes so much
where i said about red line for TSX. put TSX in sport mode and you will reach triple digit speeds without touching red line in third. and yet you said FASTEST POSSIBLE SPEED IN 3rd. How can you going to achieve fastest possible speed in 3rd without hitting redline? We are talking about SPEED not Horsepower here
Your 10 possible ways does not include high speed driving to achieve 15mpg.
whatever, but there are still at least 10 possible ways to get 15mpg, So your statement "no matter how u floor it" is not valid
Civic is economical than TSX untill certain speed at most 80mph. Once you past that speed limit TSX better aerodynamics and effortless delivery of power produce more efficient drive. really?
Pilot sport many types? It does not ential big difference. yes and btw: whatever the pilot sport is, it is better than whatever that came with your TSX all season tires. I am guessing still the same Michelin MMX whatever crap that Honda likes so much
light weight rims/advan sport tires contribute to it but much more is engine advancement & aerodynamics.
06-06-2011, 08:13 PM
#2462
I drive a Subata.
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"that is called real driving conditions."
Honda wins again.
Honda wins again.
06-06-2011, 08:17 PM
#2463
06-06-2011, 08:57 PM
#2464
Honda always wins. when you look at design/ features that makes car desirable. even proper location of foot rest is essential.
. It is only Honda that provides positive surprizes. Th problem is no has tested TSX with summer performance tires and lighter trims. and see how fast it responds. you can take U turns with single hand.
http://www.insidercarreviews.com/new...utback-limited
http://www.insidercarreviews.com/new...-models/page-2
. It is only Honda that provides positive surprizes. Th problem is no has tested TSX with summer performance tires and lighter trims. and see how fast it responds. you can take U turns with single hand.
http://www.insidercarreviews.com/new...utback-limited
http://www.insidercarreviews.com/new...-models/page-2
06-07-2011, 08:17 AM
#2466
AZ Community Team
FWIW, my parents just purchased a 2012 Civic LX replacing my dad's 2000 Accord (totaled in a accident). Won't take delivery until later this week, but I'll update folks on what their new 9G version experience is like.
06-07-2011, 08:20 AM
#2467
^ doubt they'll hate it as much as we do
06-07-2011, 08:58 AM
#2468
AZ Community Team
True, I tried to get my dad and mom to look at an Elantra to no avail. They did drive a 2012 Accord, Civic, and CRV. Accord too big, Civic just right in size, and the the CRV had too many blind spots in the rear.
At this stage in their life my parents want something that is consistent and reliable so the Civic won out. I looked at it in detail and frankly it's material/build quality is very similar to my brother's 2007 Civic. This is the sixth Civic for them and my brother so they're used to them to say the least.
At this stage in their life my parents want something that is consistent and reliable so the Civic won out. I looked at it in detail and frankly it's material/build quality is very similar to my brother's 2007 Civic. This is the sixth Civic for them and my brother so they're used to them to say the least.
06-07-2011, 10:48 AM
#2470
I drive a Subata.
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SSFTSX = Instant Win
06-07-2011, 11:22 AM
#2471
Team Owner
True, I tried to get my dad and mom to look at an Elantra to no avail. They did drive a 2012 Accord, Civic, and CRV. Accord too big, Civic just right in size, and the the CRV had too many blind spots in the rear.
At this stage in their life my parents want something that is consistent and reliable so the Civic won out. I looked at it in detail and frankly it's material/build quality is very similar to my brother's 2007 Civic. This is the sixth Civic for them and my brother so they're used to them to say the least.
At this stage in their life my parents want something that is consistent and reliable so the Civic won out. I looked at it in detail and frankly it's material/build quality is very similar to my brother's 2007 Civic. This is the sixth Civic for them and my brother so they're used to them to say the least.
But NOT for its looks, performance, features.
06-07-2011, 11:36 AM
#2472
Team Owner
Give importance to word "Possible" outside race track. In 2G TSX you dont need redline to achieve same performance as with red line 1G TSX. I retired my 1G TSX at 32K miles. so i know the differece when engine open up and this 2G TSX is way ahead in terms of smoothness of power delivery. you will not get 15mpg from TSX on freeway speeds even with agressive passing and slowing. that is called real driving conditions.
light weight rims/advan sport tires contribute to it but much more is engine advancement & aerodynamics.
light weight rims/advan sport tires contribute to it but much more is engine advancement & aerodynamics.
you should have said "how matter how you floor it on the freeway", even that, i still can prove you wrong.
"Real Driving Condition" is that what the famous RDC stands for? so your RDC is driving at the Fastest speed possible in 3rd for 30 mins?
1G TSX and 2G TSX have pretty much identical performance. the same old K24 5speed auto. You made it sound like you had a D16 and the other one had a K24 or something.
And since when does TSX come with "Light weight" rims? is that what Honda told you? Advan tires? unless it is a dealer option. TSX comes with All season tires.
06-07-2011, 12:24 PM
#2473
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Ford Focus ancient 6 speed auto transmission no match for superior Honda build. Honda technology always win. Honda reputation much superior to Found On Road Dead especially with transmission rating. Honda five speed far superior.
Buyer see continue progress with Honda line. Not Fix Or Repair Daily. From superior ventilation materials to nav screens with out finger prints Honda wins.
TSX super sports car with front wheel drive. How many automaker can make front wheel drive super sports car? None. Just Honda.
TSX sports car
Buyer see continue progress with Honda line. Not Fix Or Repair Daily. From superior ventilation materials to nav screens with out finger prints Honda wins.
TSX super sports car with front wheel drive. How many automaker can make front wheel drive super sports car? None. Just Honda.
TSX sports car
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06-07-2011, 12:42 PM
#2474
Senior Moderator
Well fastest speed possible would be achieved in redline. And why AND where would you drive topped out in 3rd for 30 min?
06-07-2011, 12:54 PM
#2475
I drive a Subata.
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Because he's SSFTSX, he only needs a 3rd gear on highways to win it all.
That's why Honda/Acura didn't care about rocking out a 6speed automatic transmission. Who needs 6th gear when you can instantly win with a 3rd gear.
That's why Honda/Acura didn't care about rocking out a 6speed automatic transmission. Who needs 6th gear when you can instantly win with a 3rd gear.
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06-07-2011, 01:00 PM
#2476
אני עומד עם ישראל
Honda 3rd gear superior to all of Ford's 6. Third gear top speed testing on TSX front wheel drive super sports car yield better result. Fuel economy much better on TSX then Ford.
06-07-2011, 01:06 PM
#2477
I drive a Subata.
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Honda = #1 Technology
06-07-2011, 02:42 PM
#2479
Team Owner
This one got nothing on the one in rambling.
06-07-2011, 02:43 PM
#2480
Team Owner
why are you talking in 3rd person? forgot to take your pills?
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