Honda: Civic News
#4722
He said everything looked fantastic (for honda guys) except the fake CF finished panels haha Should have just used black plastic finish. Looks like it's going to be priced around $35k instead of 40k?
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I thought the FoRS starts at USD$36k. Given that in Europe, the CTR is about 1.5k cheaper, I'm thinking that sort of difference will carry over to North America too. We will know soon enough!
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whoa didn't know what gigapet was until now....I think the CTR looks busy because the base Civic Hatch model is already looking busy with the fake vents and stuff. Honda was never going to make the CTR less aggressive than a regular Civic Sport hatch...so....we end up with the CTR with over the top styling...
Anyways, in the UK:
Base CTR: £30,995
CTR GT: £32,995
If we take 20% VAT away, they would be:
Base CTR: £25829
CTR GT: £27496
Converting to USD:
Base CTR: $33412
CTR GT: £35574
Honda will launch the CTR Touring first here in the US, which I assume is the same as the CTR GT in the UK. So, it's pretty much in line with what Honda stated regarding pricing of mid $35k.
I guess next year we will see a base model for $33k.
Anyways, in the UK:
Base CTR: £30,995
CTR GT: £32,995
If we take 20% VAT away, they would be:
Base CTR: £25829
CTR GT: £27496
Converting to USD:
Base CTR: $33412
CTR GT: £35574
Honda will launch the CTR Touring first here in the US, which I assume is the same as the CTR GT in the UK. So, it's pretty much in line with what Honda stated regarding pricing of mid $35k.
I guess next year we will see a base model for $33k.
#4741
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I wouldn't be caught dead driving this thing though. It's more bro'ed out than a non-STI WRX with a STI wing on the back and monster energy stickers all over. Wondering who the hell is going to buy this thing at that price? The people who would drive it probably can't afford it.
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#4747
It does not matter how good it can hold its value, paying anything over MSRP on cars like Focus RS or CTR is just stupid. At the end of the day, they are still Focus and Civic....
I even have problem paying MSRP
I even have problem paying MSRP
#4748
Oh I completely agree, I'd never pay a markup on any car. It's just not worth it to me but plenty of people are doing it.
#4749
If no one buys it at Markup, then Markup will quickly disappear. Unfortunately, there are always the stupid (and rich) ones.
#4751
Probably longer than a few months depending on supply levels and how long they'll make them for. The Focus RS still has markups in most markets and it's been around for 2 years now. Reason is that it was relatively low volume and only available for MY16 and MY17. Should hold its value better than any other Focus though lol.
I wouldn't be caught dead driving this thing though. It's more bro'ed out than a non-STI WRX with a STI wing on the back and monster energy stickers all over. Wondering who the hell is going to buy this thing at that price? The people who would drive it probably can't afford it.
I wouldn't be caught dead driving this thing though. It's more bro'ed out than a non-STI WRX with a STI wing on the back and monster energy stickers all over. Wondering who the hell is going to buy this thing at that price? The people who would drive it probably can't afford it.
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Probably longer than a few months depending on supply levels and how long they'll make them for. The Focus RS still has markups in most markets and it's been around for 2 years now. Reason is that it was relatively low volume and only available for MY16 and MY17. Should hold its value better than any other Focus though lol.
I wouldn't be caught dead driving this thing though. It's more bro'ed out than a non-STI WRX with a STI wing on the back and monster energy stickers all over. Wondering who the hell is going to buy this thing at that price? The people who would drive it probably can't afford it.
I wouldn't be caught dead driving this thing though. It's more bro'ed out than a non-STI WRX with a STI wing on the back and monster energy stickers all over. Wondering who the hell is going to buy this thing at that price? The people who would drive it probably can't afford it.
haha well, if people won't buy it, then there shouldn't be a mark up ??
#4753
Haha I think a EG civic hatch is even lighter than that! My EK hatch is at 2300lb (measured it when I gutted the interior and went to the garbage depot to dump those parts lol).
Wow didn't know foRS still has mark up....
haha well, if people won't buy it, then there shouldn't be a mark up ??
Wow didn't know foRS still has mark up....
haha well, if people won't buy it, then there shouldn't be a mark up ??
The 1992 Si I had, I'm pretty sure came in at 2400-2450lbs. It had the sunroof and sunroof reinforcement which adds weight, plus, all EK hatches were at most DXs... so fairly bare bones. The sunroof did add a lot of weight though. But whatever, that tilt glass that slid all the way back (and not into the roof) was so gangster.
#4754
The FoRS was heavily marked up for about a year. Not they are selling below MSRP in Socal.
This is how it is for most of the lower end hyped up sports cars. This aint 911 GT3.
It's the kids who hype it up who can't afford it.
The CTR will be marked up for the first year for sure. I have a sales manager friend at Sierra Honda. They already have a lot of people on the waiting list for this. He said usually only 20% of the list actually purchase the car when it releases with the mark up, and the rest are a bunch of kids trying to get attention from adults.
Never pay mark up or even MSRP unless you really want it. haha
This is how it is for most of the lower end hyped up sports cars. This aint 911 GT3.
It's the kids who hype it up who can't afford it.
The CTR will be marked up for the first year for sure. I have a sales manager friend at Sierra Honda. They already have a lot of people on the waiting list for this. He said usually only 20% of the list actually purchase the car when it releases with the mark up, and the rest are a bunch of kids trying to get attention from adults.
Never pay mark up or even MSRP unless you really want it. haha
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Oh the Sir coupe, thats the EM1 I think. Yea, the coupe is much heavier than the hatch...it's why I got the hatch instead and it was a DX model too with nothing inside. And like I said, it's gutted instead...lol....yup lots of vibration but it's a track car. The power steering is removed as well...
Did you have a 1992 si coupe too, and not a hatch? What's nice about the hatchback is that I am able to bring everything into the car for track days, like extra set of wheels, toolbox, water, food, luggage, chair, etc.
Did you have a 1992 si coupe too, and not a hatch? What's nice about the hatchback is that I am able to bring everything into the car for track days, like extra set of wheels, toolbox, water, food, luggage, chair, etc.
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Oh the Sir coupe, thats the EM1 I think. Yea, the coupe is much heavier than the hatch...it's why I got the hatch instead and it was a DX model too with nothing inside. And like I said, it's gutted instead...lol....yup lots of vibration but it's a track car. The power steering is removed as well...
Did you have a 1992 si coupe too, and not a hatch? What's nice about the hatchback is that I am able to bring everything into the car for track days, like extra set of wheels, toolbox, water, food, luggage, chair, etc.
Did you have a 1992 si coupe too, and not a hatch? What's nice about the hatchback is that I am able to bring everything into the car for track days, like extra set of wheels, toolbox, water, food, luggage, chair, etc.
You're right, my '99 was an EM1. My '92 was an EH2. I also had a '95 CX hatch for a bit also (wife's).
#4760
That's nuts. There's a Ford dealer right by me selling GT350s at MSRP. At least they did last year when I enquired about one. I remember they had like 6 sitting in front of the dealership.