Ferrari: 458 Italia News **MM Speciale Revealed (page 11)**
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Ferrari: 458 Italia News **MM Speciale Revealed (page 11)**
Ferrari will unveil its F430 replacement at Frankfurt in October, giving its biggest-selling model a life of just five years.
Code-named Ferrari F142 and expected to be christened Ferrari F450 in production, the new V8-powered car will be largely new, with few carryover components in the chassis or bodywork.
While it was only released in 2004, the Ferrari F430’s chassis was heavily based on the 360 Modena whose parts dated back to 1999.
Production of F430s has slowed recently, ahead of the F450’s start-of-production in July. Insiders who have seen the F450 insist it is one of the most beautiful Ferraris in years.
While details on the car are scant, it will run an enlarged version of the F430’s V8, equipped with direct injection giving an output of more than 500bhp from its 4.5-litre capacity, hence the F450 moniker.
The transmission will be a variant of the seven-speed dual-clutch system shared with the new California.
Linked to Ferrari’s steering-wheel mounted ‘manettino’ control, the dual-clutch transmission promises drivers a choice between quick sporty changes and relaxed automatic operation.
Ferrari has been working hard on weight reduction with its suppliers and the F450 is expected to take Alcoa’s advances in aluminium chassis technology to new heights.
Sources also suggest the F450 is already as fast around the Fiorano test track as the compromise-free F430 Scuderia.
But it will also ride more firmly than the Ferrari California, leaving buyers in no doubt about the focus of either car.
European Ferrari F450 sales are expected to begin late this year or early in 2010.
Code-named Ferrari F142 and expected to be christened Ferrari F450 in production, the new V8-powered car will be largely new, with few carryover components in the chassis or bodywork.
While it was only released in 2004, the Ferrari F430’s chassis was heavily based on the 360 Modena whose parts dated back to 1999.
Production of F430s has slowed recently, ahead of the F450’s start-of-production in July. Insiders who have seen the F450 insist it is one of the most beautiful Ferraris in years.
While details on the car are scant, it will run an enlarged version of the F430’s V8, equipped with direct injection giving an output of more than 500bhp from its 4.5-litre capacity, hence the F450 moniker.
The transmission will be a variant of the seven-speed dual-clutch system shared with the new California.
Linked to Ferrari’s steering-wheel mounted ‘manettino’ control, the dual-clutch transmission promises drivers a choice between quick sporty changes and relaxed automatic operation.
Ferrari has been working hard on weight reduction with its suppliers and the F450 is expected to take Alcoa’s advances in aluminium chassis technology to new heights.
Sources also suggest the F450 is already as fast around the Fiorano test track as the compromise-free F430 Scuderia.
But it will also ride more firmly than the Ferrari California, leaving buyers in no doubt about the focus of either car.
European Ferrari F450 sales are expected to begin late this year or early in 2010.
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F430 is one of my favorite cars ever. If this is supposed to be even hotter I can't wait to see it.
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I was fortunate enough to get a ride in a Novitec twin supercharged one a couple of years ago, the thing was un-bleeping-real. I'm dying to find out what it looks like.
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My buddies boss owned an F360 and now has an F430. I have gotten to drive them both and the F360 was sweet but the F430 is just amazing.
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I wouldn't classify it as a supercar, and even so, 500HP out of a N/A 4.5L V8 is pretty intense. Add that with a lightweight body, razor sharp steering response, racing bred suspension and you gotta winner. Worked for them in the past, look at the F430-S. Also keep in mind that a lot of the competition is rather...porky...power to weight, people!
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Saw this on Topspeed.com
Spy photographers have caught in tests several mules that point clearly that a replacement for the F430 is in development al Maranello. Driving on the Fiorano race-track and disguised as F430 Challenge Stradale, the test cars show a medium development stage for the smallest Ferrari.
Early rumors pointed that the new car will be equipped with a V10 engine, in order to be successfully compete against the Lamborghini Gallardo. The changes made to Formula 1 regulations, that nowadays require the use of V8 engines, make this step irrational; therefore it is logical for Ferrari to stick with the traditional V8 configuration.
The main competitor, the child of the other Italian supercar producing house, the Lamborghini Gallardo uses a 5.0 liter originated from Audi. One might expect that Ferrari will improve their new comer displacement up to the same value in order to provide the same level of performance.
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/ferrari...0-ar39707.html
Spy photographers have caught in tests several mules that point clearly that a replacement for the F430 is in development al Maranello. Driving on the Fiorano race-track and disguised as F430 Challenge Stradale, the test cars show a medium development stage for the smallest Ferrari.
Early rumors pointed that the new car will be equipped with a V10 engine, in order to be successfully compete against the Lamborghini Gallardo. The changes made to Formula 1 regulations, that nowadays require the use of V8 engines, make this step irrational; therefore it is logical for Ferrari to stick with the traditional V8 configuration.
The main competitor, the child of the other Italian supercar producing house, the Lamborghini Gallardo uses a 5.0 liter originated from Audi. One might expect that Ferrari will improve their new comer displacement up to the same value in order to provide the same level of performance.
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/ferrari...0-ar39707.html
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It certainly has that elongated back end like the HSC or Enzo. I can not wait for official pics!
Going back to to the V8 vs V10 issue from the leftlane article, I don't see why they necessarily would have to go with a 10cyl. To begin with, the 430 and the Gallardo were within milliseconds of each other despite the extra displacement. In today's "economic climate", all car companies are making drastic reductions in many areas, so why bring on all the associated costs of a larger engine, for both Ferrari and the consumer? Especially when Ferrari is as good as they are at squeezing performance out of things like weight reduction, gearbox and handling. It kept them competitive up to this point.
Granted, all this is being said without knowing how the 430 would stack up against the LP560. But with strides being made in efficiency with engine management etc etc, I can't see how a new, or tweaked Ferrari V8 wouldn't be able to still wow 'em and easily continuing to keep up.
Going back to to the V8 vs V10 issue from the leftlane article, I don't see why they necessarily would have to go with a 10cyl. To begin with, the 430 and the Gallardo were within milliseconds of each other despite the extra displacement. In today's "economic climate", all car companies are making drastic reductions in many areas, so why bring on all the associated costs of a larger engine, for both Ferrari and the consumer? Especially when Ferrari is as good as they are at squeezing performance out of things like weight reduction, gearbox and handling. It kept them competitive up to this point.
Granted, all this is being said without knowing how the 430 would stack up against the LP560. But with strides being made in efficiency with engine management etc etc, I can't see how a new, or tweaked Ferrari V8 wouldn't be able to still wow 'em and easily continuing to keep up.
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Ferrari: F450 news
From Worldcarfans...
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090617....details-emerge
A few more crumbs of knowledge on the upcoming Ferrari F450 have emerged. Actually, more than a few, as our esteemed colleagues at Autocar have uncovered lots of details on the upgrading that the F450 will feature over the current F430.
According to Autocar, Ferrari will be employing a host of technologies derived from its Formula One and GT racing divisions. These will include a 7-speed, double-clutch trans-axle transmission, a next-generation version of traction control from the Scuderia, a software program that corrects under-steer, and radiators placed just before the front wheels.
The F450 will also be made of lightweight aluminum that will improve handling over the more rigid F430 while keeping weight, and hence emissions, down.
Ferrari may still be fine-tuning the styling on the model and is working with legendary coach-builder Pininfarina to match design with aerodynamic requirements.
The 450 will debut only as a hardtop. Leaving some room in the market for the California model to find its customers. An F450 Spider is scheduled to arrive some 18 months after the launch of the coupe, expected sometime early in 2010.
The F450 will likely make its public debut at the Los Angeles auto show in December. A hybrid version may also be featured, but Ferrari is holding off on introducing its latest patented technologies on the F450, such as Kinetic Energy Recovery System (KERS), fearing that its customer-base is not yet ready to see eco-friendly Ferraris.
Still, they want to be first to have a road car with that kind of technology to beat the competition to the punch. But for the time being, Ferrari believe they can meet emissions standards over the next several years by use of direct-injection engines, weight reduction and other such technologies that don't involve its recent patents.
According to Autocar, Ferrari will be employing a host of technologies derived from its Formula One and GT racing divisions. These will include a 7-speed, double-clutch trans-axle transmission, a next-generation version of traction control from the Scuderia, a software program that corrects under-steer, and radiators placed just before the front wheels.
The F450 will also be made of lightweight aluminum that will improve handling over the more rigid F430 while keeping weight, and hence emissions, down.
Ferrari may still be fine-tuning the styling on the model and is working with legendary coach-builder Pininfarina to match design with aerodynamic requirements.
The 450 will debut only as a hardtop. Leaving some room in the market for the California model to find its customers. An F450 Spider is scheduled to arrive some 18 months after the launch of the coupe, expected sometime early in 2010.
The F450 will likely make its public debut at the Los Angeles auto show in December. A hybrid version may also be featured, but Ferrari is holding off on introducing its latest patented technologies on the F450, such as Kinetic Energy Recovery System (KERS), fearing that its customer-base is not yet ready to see eco-friendly Ferraris.
Still, they want to be first to have a road car with that kind of technology to beat the competition to the punch. But for the time being, Ferrari believe they can meet emissions standards over the next several years by use of direct-injection engines, weight reduction and other such technologies that don't involve its recent patents.
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Video of the test mule...
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