Ferrari: 458 Italia News **MM Speciale Revealed (page 11)**

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Originally Posted by msl82
Considering the difference of a budget they are working on, of course its going to be different.

Do you think the ferrari designers would be able to come up with amazing design like 458 Italia if they had the same budget as NSX designers?

So for you to say that Acura designers can only wish to come up with something like 458, you are not considering the reality and the environment in which both company engineers and desginers are working on. Ferrari 458 is almost twice as expensive as NSX, therefore, the budget allowed for research, design and developing their cars would be so much higher than NSX.

Think before you speak, it shows your ignorance and level of cognitive ability...
lol, you know what, it doesn't really matter. As long as there's a Ferrari badge on the car, then it's automatically more beautiful than other cars for some people.
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lol @ think before you speak

I almost read that as "eat before you talk"
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Originally Posted by msl82
Considering the difference of a budget they are working on, of course its going to be different.

Do you think the ferrari designers would be able to come up with amazing design like 458 Italia if they had the same budget as NSX designers?
So what your saying is some highskool grad with a pad of paper couldnt design something better because he doesnt get paid ???
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Maybe it will grow on me, but I hate it. The 430 is such a better looking car.
never really liked the 430. I think this one blows it out of the water!
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
lol @ think before you speak

I almost read that as "eat before you talk"
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
So what your saying is some highskool grad with a pad of paper couldnt design something better because he doesnt get paid ???
Yeah - this is about talent, not money. Real talent cannot be bought with money; it is priceless.

Devil's advocate: well, I guess there are "top designers" who can command more money. So, maybe it can be bought. lol
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:surrender

that is so bad ass. I want one.
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Make it 2. One in Black, One in Red
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Originally Posted by is300eater
It's the Stig!!!

Anyways 9000rpm on a turbo V8 is astonishing! That just shows the quality of the racing parts they used to put in the engine. I bet one valve spring is around $500-$800. (ferrari markup included.)

I noticed that it has three tailpipes. The middle one must be a direct dump from the wastegates. Super sweet!
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Originally Posted by NCTL05
Anyways 9000rpm on a turbo V8 is astonishing! That just shows the quality of the racing parts they used to put in the engine. I bet one valve spring is around $500-$800. (ferrari markup included.)

I noticed that it has three tailpipes. The middle one must be a direct dump from the wastegates. Super sweet!
it's NA...
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Originally Posted by savage
it's NA...
Really? That's not what this pic tells me.
http://bitcast-a.v1.sjc1.bitgravity....alopnik_08.jpg

Hmmm...wastegates on an NA car.
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Not sure where that pic is from but it's NA.

From page 2.

It certainly has more in common with superbikes than cars; at 127bhp per litre, the specific output is greater than that of many turbocharged engines.

The high-revving 4498cc V8 has very light internal parts and tiny piston skirts, resulting in low rotation inertia and a 12.5:1 compression ratio. It puts out 562bhp at 9000rpm, 500rpm higher than the 430. That makes it the highest-revving Ferrari road car ever.

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Originally Posted by NCTL05
Really? That's not what this pic tells me.
http://bitcast-a.v1.sjc1.bitgravity....alopnik_08.jpg

Hmmm...wastegates on an NA car.
Last time i checked waste gates dont go on tailpipe sections (after the mufflers) of exhaust. My guess is it may be like the exhaust system on the C6 that has a flap that opens to allow more sound more flow ???
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Then why did everyone say it was turbo on page 2? I'm confused.
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Originally Posted by NCTL05
Then why did everyone say it was turbo on page 2? I'm confused.
yeah I remember seeing that and just kinda and ignore it.

no way this car would have had turbos.
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because they were misinformed ?
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Originally Posted by NCTL05
Then why did everyone say it was turbo on page 2? I'm confused.
Rumors and maybe it was on a test mule. Ferrari could have been working on multiple engines on the same platform. The turbo engine could have been for the next Halo car...
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They shouldn't make this car in anything other than Red or Black.

Enjoy it while it last folks. According to our resident automotive expert SSFTSX, Ferrari will soon be overtaken and put out of business by Audi, Lambo et all.
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So...purdy...
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Originally Posted by dom
They shouldn't make this car in anything other than Red or Black.

Enjoy it while it last folks. According to our resident automotive expert SSFTSX, Ferrari will soon be overtaken and put out of business by Audi, Lambo et all.
of course that is happening...




damn... this car is just beautiful, Ferrari never ceases to amaze me...
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Originally Posted by dom
They shouldn't make this car in anything other than Red
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That was actually what I originally typed. I know I'd get mine in Red.
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That car is such a beast. I luv it.
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Originally Posted by dom
That was actually what I originally typed. I know I'd get mine in Red.
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So I was building one a couple of night ago at Ferrari.com. Is this thing not available with an MT? Because I didn't see the option.
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So I was building one a couple of night ago at Ferrari.com. Is this thing not available with an MT? Because I didn't see the option.
Don't most if not all Ferraris come with F1 gear boxes now? I haven't seen recent Lambos equipped with manuals either.
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what they did with the 430 is offer the MT later on - initially it was only available with the F1. I would imagine that would be the same scenario with this one, I do think they will offer with the MT.
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So I was building one a couple of night ago at Ferrari.com. Is this thing not available with an MT? Because I didn't see the option.
The manual is slipping away....slowly but surely.
Ferrari = F1......so it's only natural for them to continue pumping F1 tech into their cars. I think the F1 gearbox will become/is the only tranny for Ferrari.
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hmmm... looked around online for clues and didn't find anything pointing to a possible MT on this car - maybe we won't see one. kinda sad, there's something truly magical about having such beautiful horses at the complete and total control of your hand...
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hmmm... looked around online for clues and didn't find anything pointing to a possible MT on this car - maybe we won't see one. kinda sad, there's something truly magical about having such beautiful horses at the complete and total control of your hand and left foot...
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