BMW: 5-Series News
11-08-2006, 02:50 PM
#1042
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Originally Posted by Crazy88
What about the early 90s MB 500E. I always thought that was a beast.
Created in close cooperation with Porsche. Each 500E was hand-built by Porsche, being transported back and forth between the Mercedes plant and Porsche's Rossle-Bau plant in Zuffenhausen during assembly---taking a full 18 days to complete each model
Created in close cooperation with Porsche. Each 500E was hand-built by Porsche, being transported back and forth between the Mercedes plant and Porsche's Rossle-Bau plant in Zuffenhausen during assembly---taking a full 18 days to complete each model
BMW has been doing high-hp 4-doors ever since the debut of the 1984 M5. This car had 256hp in the US and 286hp overseas. 5MT. ftw.
I do believe MB/AMG have a claim-to-fame with having the first uber-performance sedan, the 1987 AMG Hammer. However, that too, was auto. I guess I would probably throw the 70's 450SEL 6.9 into the mix too, but of course, that too, was auto.
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01-08-2007, 11:40 PM
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M5 Touring...
01-09-2007, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Forgot where i read it but i heard that manual gearbox in the M5 is the same one from the E39.
True? Wonder how it can handle that v10...
True? Wonder how it can handle that v10...
The manual M5 has stability control that can't be fully turned off. C&D said that even in the "sport" mode that it's very aggressive and more or less spoils the car.
Word is that later 07 vehicles will have a DSC off capability.
Its really the torque, the V10 really doesn't produce that much (at least when compared to AMG cars). So the standard off the shelf 6spd can handle it.
01-09-2007, 12:35 PM
#1049
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Touring revealed...
01-09-2007, 12:36 PM
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01-09-2007, 12:36 PM
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01-09-2007, 12:37 PM
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From Leftlanenews...
BMW today revealed the M5 Touring — a wagon version of its popular M5 sports car. The second-ever "M" station wagon, the 2008 M5 Touring delivers 507 horsepower at 8,250rpm from a 5.0 liter V10 engine, all while providing up to 1,650 litres of cargo space. The M5 Touring will be offered in select European markets, including the U.K., but it's unclear if it will ever come to American shores.
The M5 Touring shares a virtually identical feature list with its sedan counterpart, including a seven-speed sequential-manual transmission, high-performance wheels and tires, quad exhaust, and a driver-oriented interior. The M5 Touring accelerates to 60 mph just 0.1 seconds slower than the M5 sedan. Without the 155mph electronic limiter the new M5 Touring would be capable of achieving 200mph.
The M5 Touring shares a virtually identical feature list with its sedan counterpart, including a seven-speed sequential-manual transmission, high-performance wheels and tires, quad exhaust, and a driver-oriented interior. The M5 Touring accelerates to 60 mph just 0.1 seconds slower than the M5 sedan. Without the 155mph electronic limiter the new M5 Touring would be capable of achieving 200mph.
01-09-2007, 01:18 PM
#1053
Engineer
now that is one sick wagon...
01-09-2007, 03:41 PM
#1056
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by Beltfed
07 6spd manual..........
The M5 posted poor acceleration times of 4.7 0-60 and 13.0 1/4 mile @ 114.0 mph. C&D blamed the poor acceleration on the fact that the DSC on the manual M5 cannot be completely shut off. This also adversely affected lane change performance down to 60.8 mph from 65.6 mph and skidpad grip which dropped from .89 g to .83!
It's really sad when the enthusiast model of one of the best sport sedans in the world performs significantly worse than the automatic version in all acceleration and handling categories.
01-09-2007, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I like the RS4 avant better 
01-09-2007, 06:22 PM
#1058
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by savage
now that is one sick wagon...
01-09-2007, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AlterZgo
The 07 6-speed M5 is very disappointing. Did you see the C&D 2/07 comparison test of the S6 vs. E64 vs. manual M5?
The M5 posted poor acceleration times of 4.7 0-60 and 13.0 1/4 mile @ 114.0 mph. C&D blamed the poor acceleration on the fact that the DSC on the manual M5 cannot be completely shut off. This also adversely affected lane change performance down to 60.8 mph from 65.6 mph and skidpad grip which dropped from .89 g to .83!
It's really sad when the enthusiast model of one of the best sport sedans in the world performs significantly worse than the automatic version in all acceleration and handling categories.
The M5 posted poor acceleration times of 4.7 0-60 and 13.0 1/4 mile @ 114.0 mph. C&D blamed the poor acceleration on the fact that the DSC on the manual M5 cannot be completely shut off. This also adversely affected lane change performance down to 60.8 mph from 65.6 mph and skidpad grip which dropped from .89 g to .83!
It's really sad when the enthusiast model of one of the best sport sedans in the world performs significantly worse than the automatic version in all acceleration and handling categories.
01-09-2007, 09:34 PM
#1060
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http://www.bmwusa.com/Vehicles/futur...e=NEW5FVTOPNAV
THE 2008 BMW 5 SERIES:
Greater Performance, Updated Styling, Enhanced Safety, Interior Refinements and New Luxury Options
* Refined exterior design for even greater elegance and dynamics
* Enhanced interior design quality and choice of materials
* New 6-cylinder engines with improved performance
* No-extra-cost six-speed automatic with new electronic gear selector lever
* Optional Sport Automatic Transmission with shift paddles
* New features include Active Cruise Control (optional) now with Stop & Go braking function; optional Lane Departure Warning; BMW iDrive with six programmable memory keys; and optional iPod/USB Adapter
THE 2008 BMW 5 SERIES:
Greater Performance, Updated Styling, Enhanced Safety, Interior Refinements and New Luxury Options
* Refined exterior design for even greater elegance and dynamics
* Enhanced interior design quality and choice of materials
* New 6-cylinder engines with improved performance
* No-extra-cost six-speed automatic with new electronic gear selector lever
* Optional Sport Automatic Transmission with shift paddles
* New features include Active Cruise Control (optional) now with Stop & Go braking function; optional Lane Departure Warning; BMW iDrive with six programmable memory keys; and optional iPod/USB Adapter
The enhanced power of our 2008 5 Series only begins with the engine. Its body has been toned, its reflexes quickened and its multitude of innovative features equipped to do much more than what you ask of them. In short, the new 5 Series is everything you expect from a BMW. And then some.
Power that gets ahead of everything but the driver.
How much power can one driver harness? That all depends. For the 528i sedan, we’ve developed a 230 horsepower inline six cylinder engine, an improvement of 15 horsepower over last year’s model. More impressively, our 535i sedan’s inline 6 with twin turbo has been boosted to 300-horsepower, an upgrade of 75 horsepower.
No matter how powerful it gets, the 5 Series knows its own strength, and exactly how to apply it. With standard 6-speed STEPTRONIC automatic transmission, you’re always in optimum gear. In fact, shifting couldn’t be more effortless with a new ergonomic electric shift lever. And the optional sport automatic transmission with paddle shifters, offered on our 535i and 550i models*, lets you take even more power into your own hands.
All lines trace back to performance.
Every detail of the 5 Series further implies the power lying just below the hood. Its bolder, sportier look begins with a more form-fitting lower air intake, and is carried through to new all-white headlight lenses and redesigned front and rear bumpers. The 550i sedan’s new optional Sports Package with Aerodynamic Kit also adds to the vehicles aggressive attitude: from its sportier sounding differentiated exhaust pipes and M Sport Suspension, down to new 19” double spoke alloy wheels (non run-flat) that carry the whole design forward.
Inside, nothing has escaped our close attention to detail – not even the door handles, which have been refined and wrapped in leather. Smoother lines guide your eyes around the spacious cabin. Rich door trim that has been moved up to the window line for a more refined look. Functionality is also streamlined with window buttons relocated to the armrest and door pockets deepened to accommodate more.
Only technology this advanced could feel so familiar.
With everything our 5 Series calculates, anticipates and keeps track of, it never forgets the driver. In fact, the easily accessible iDrive Controller can store your favorite radio stations, telephone numbers and directions in its six programmable memory keys. Our 5 Series even knows how to surprise you with features like its two-way power moonroof and USB adaptor for iPod/MP3 players**. And going to even greater lengths to help protect you, our 5 Series sedan is equipped with even more safety features than last year’s model – including Lane Deviation Warning technology, which alerts the driver of any deviations from the lane by vibrating the steering wheel, if the turn signal has not been activated.
Power that gets ahead of everything but the driver.
How much power can one driver harness? That all depends. For the 528i sedan, we’ve developed a 230 horsepower inline six cylinder engine, an improvement of 15 horsepower over last year’s model. More impressively, our 535i sedan’s inline 6 with twin turbo has been boosted to 300-horsepower, an upgrade of 75 horsepower.
No matter how powerful it gets, the 5 Series knows its own strength, and exactly how to apply it. With standard 6-speed STEPTRONIC automatic transmission, you’re always in optimum gear. In fact, shifting couldn’t be more effortless with a new ergonomic electric shift lever. And the optional sport automatic transmission with paddle shifters, offered on our 535i and 550i models*, lets you take even more power into your own hands.
All lines trace back to performance.
Every detail of the 5 Series further implies the power lying just below the hood. Its bolder, sportier look begins with a more form-fitting lower air intake, and is carried through to new all-white headlight lenses and redesigned front and rear bumpers. The 550i sedan’s new optional Sports Package with Aerodynamic Kit also adds to the vehicles aggressive attitude: from its sportier sounding differentiated exhaust pipes and M Sport Suspension, down to new 19” double spoke alloy wheels (non run-flat) that carry the whole design forward.
Inside, nothing has escaped our close attention to detail – not even the door handles, which have been refined and wrapped in leather. Smoother lines guide your eyes around the spacious cabin. Rich door trim that has been moved up to the window line for a more refined look. Functionality is also streamlined with window buttons relocated to the armrest and door pockets deepened to accommodate more.
Only technology this advanced could feel so familiar.
With everything our 5 Series calculates, anticipates and keeps track of, it never forgets the driver. In fact, the easily accessible iDrive Controller can store your favorite radio stations, telephone numbers and directions in its six programmable memory keys. Our 5 Series even knows how to surprise you with features like its two-way power moonroof and USB adaptor for iPod/MP3 players**. And going to even greater lengths to help protect you, our 5 Series sedan is equipped with even more safety features than last year’s model – including Lane Deviation Warning technology, which alerts the driver of any deviations from the lane by vibrating the steering wheel, if the turn signal has not been activated.
01-10-2007, 12:21 AM
#1062
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by importtuner
who gives a shit about 0-60?
If you don't care about 0-60, 1/4 mi, slalom, lane change speed, and lateral G, then why would you even care to read a thread about M5s?
01-10-2007, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
07 6spd manual..........
01-10-2007, 01:00 AM
#1064
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that M5 Touring looks pretty tough but it looks more like a truck than a wagon 
01-10-2007, 01:01 AM
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2008 Bmw 535i available Summer 2007
"The enhanced power of our 2008 5 Series only begins with the engine. Its body has been toned, its reflexes quickened and its multitude of innovative features equipped to do much more than what you ask of them. In short, the new 5 Series is everything you expect from a BMW. And then some.
Power that gets ahead of everything but the driver.
How much power can one driver harness? That all depends. For the 528i sedan, we’ve developed a 230 horsepower inline six cylinder engine, an improvement of 15 horsepower over last year’s model. More impressively, our 535i sedan’s inline 6 with twin turbo has been boosted to 300-horsepower, an upgrade of 75 horsepower.
No matter how powerful it gets, the 5 Series knows its own strength, and exactly how to apply it. With standard 6-speed STEPTRONIC automatic transmission, you’re always in optimum gear. In fact, shifting couldn’t be more effortless with a new ergonomic electric shift lever. And the optional sport automatic transmission with paddle shifters, offered on our 535i and 550i models*, lets you take even more power into your own hands.
All lines trace back to performance.
Every detail of the 5 Series further implies the power lying just below the hood. Its bolder, sportier look begins with a more form-fitting lower air intake, and is carried through to new all-white headlight lenses and redesigned front and rear bumpers. The 550i sedan’s new optional Sports Package with Aerodynamic Kit also adds to the vehicles aggressive attitude: from its sportier sounding differentiated exhaust pipes and M Sport Suspension, down to new 19” double spoke alloy wheels (non run-flat) that carry the whole design forward.
Inside, nothing has escaped our close attention to detail – not even the door handles, which have been refined and wrapped in leather. Smoother lines guide your eyes around the spacious cabin. Rich door trim that has been moved up to the window line for a more refined look. Functionality is also streamlined with window buttons relocated to the armrest and door pockets deepened to accommodate more.
Only technology this advanced could feel so familiar.
With everything our 5 Series calculates, anticipates and keeps track of, it never forgets the driver. In fact, the easily accessible iDrive Controller can store your favorite radio stations, telephone numbers and directions in its six programmable memory keys. Our 5 Series even knows how to surprise you with features like its two-way power moonroof and USB adaptor for iPod/MP3 players**. And going to even greater lengths to help protect you, our 5 Series sedan is equipped with even more safety features than last year’s model – including Lane Deviation Warning technology, which alerts the driver of any deviations from the lane by vibrating the steering wheel, if the turn signal has not been activated."
*Available by summer of 2007
**Factory installed option "
http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/futur...e=NEW5FVTOPNAV
Car is fucking hot! Especially with the twin turbos.
01-10-2007, 09:14 AM
#1072
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Originally Posted by biker
Since when did the current 530 have only 225HP? (300-75).
BMW is real good at rolling out the changes.
BMW is real good at rolling out the changes.
01-12-2007, 10:05 AM
#1073
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Wagon not coming to USA...
From Leftlanenews...
BMW North America has said it has no plans to import the new 2008 BMW M5 Touring station wagon to the United States, according to AutoWeek.
Powered by a 5.0-liter V10 engine with 507 horsepower, the M5 Touring is every bit as much a sports car as its sedan counterpart, with some added hauling capacity.
It's not the first time America has been overlooked in the planning of a BMW performance wagon. In 1992, BMW produced a limited edition E34 M5 wagon, none of which came to U.S. shores.
Powered by a 5.0-liter V10 engine with 507 horsepower, the M5 Touring is every bit as much a sports car as its sedan counterpart, with some added hauling capacity.
It's not the first time America has been overlooked in the planning of a BMW performance wagon. In 1992, BMW produced a limited edition E34 M5 wagon, none of which came to U.S. shores.
01-17-2007, 12:14 PM
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2008 BMW 528i, 535i, and 550i - Car News - - BY JARED GALL, January 2007 - - Source: caranddriver.com
Perhaps not wanting to steal buzz from the 3-series cabriolet it debuted in Detroit, BMW chose to reveal its plans for the 2008 5-series with a quiet press release, rather than a big introduction at the show. Then again, ‘tis a quiet update the 5-series receives, certainly not the sort for which the international media need be corralled.
Most predictably, the new six-cylinder engines making the rounds in the 3-series are filtering into the engine bays of the big-brother sedans. The 528i gets the same 230 hp, 200 lb-ft 3.0-liter as the smaller 328i, and the fantastic twin-turbo, 300 hp, 300 lb-ft 3.0-liter we first encountered in the 335i coupe evolves the 530i into a 535i with gains of 45 hp and 80 lb-ft. We look forward to sampling this engine in the bigger sedan. The 360-hp 4.8-liter V-8 in the 550i remains unchanged.
What we don’t look forward to on the 2008 BMW 5-series is the deeper infiltration of a serene interior by electronic annoyances. A new lane-departure system like that found on various Infiniti models does not warn of wandering with any audible or visual cues, but by a vibration in the steering wheel! Is that a rumble strip? Low tire? Nope. Just a little inter-lane wandering. It better be defeatable.
Visual cues on the 2008 will be subtle. The turn signals in the rear will be LEDs, while those up front get clear lenses. The side sill gets a minor crease, and the lower air intake in the front fascia will turn up at the edges instead of down and have a horizontal crossbar. Those with truly sharp eyes will notice these cars turning up by this summer; everyone else will have to wait to feel the difference created by the new engines.
Most predictably, the new six-cylinder engines making the rounds in the 3-series are filtering into the engine bays of the big-brother sedans. The 528i gets the same 230 hp, 200 lb-ft 3.0-liter as the smaller 328i, and the fantastic twin-turbo, 300 hp, 300 lb-ft 3.0-liter we first encountered in the 335i coupe evolves the 530i into a 535i with gains of 45 hp and 80 lb-ft. We look forward to sampling this engine in the bigger sedan. The 360-hp 4.8-liter V-8 in the 550i remains unchanged.
What we don’t look forward to on the 2008 BMW 5-series is the deeper infiltration of a serene interior by electronic annoyances. A new lane-departure system like that found on various Infiniti models does not warn of wandering with any audible or visual cues, but by a vibration in the steering wheel! Is that a rumble strip? Low tire? Nope. Just a little inter-lane wandering. It better be defeatable.
Visual cues on the 2008 will be subtle. The turn signals in the rear will be LEDs, while those up front get clear lenses. The side sill gets a minor crease, and the lower air intake in the front fascia will turn up at the edges instead of down and have a horizontal crossbar. Those with truly sharp eyes will notice these cars turning up by this summer; everyone else will have to wait to feel the difference created by the new engines.
01-17-2007, 12:14 PM
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A new lane-departure system like that found on various Infiniti models does not warn of wandering with any audible or visual cues, but by a vibration in the steering wheel! Is that a rumble strip? Low tire? Nope. Just a little inter-lane wandering. It better be defeatable.
What is BMW thinking lately....
01-20-2007, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by oemtsxparts
they've always been gay, its just white supriority nazi views exists today and that's what been selling their cars
Congratulations.
Since you believe the Aryan Brotherhood is running BMW, might I inquire as to your ethnic background?
01-20-2007, 09:50 AM
#1079
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Originally Posted by oemtsxparts
they've always been gay, its just white supriority nazi views exists today and that's what been selling their cars
How did you go from the comments posted.... to THAT? A little extreme there, buddy? Dontcha think?
