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Seriously what happens when they sell 7 of these worldwide? How quick will the facelift be
I would love to see BMW's reaction but the reality is the sales # wont be too much off from the current Gen. If anything, CUV/SUV will steal more sales than the ugly nose itself...
sounds like you know too much about those type of C...
Yeah, I've been defrocked in the 3G TL sub-forum by some of the regulars. Majofo needed a break from that which would explain his disappearance. This is also why Taco quit.
I expect the 3 series will gain the sales that it lost to previous gen 4GC back very quickly...
Their logic doesnt make sense... so you dont want the 4 series to look like 2 series and 8 series yet every car in your line up have the same interior ....
All i read is BS excuses...
The 2021 BMW 4 Series is, if nothing else, striking with its enormous, upright twin-kidney grille. And because the trend for car companies the last few years is to apply one design idea across the lineup to build the brand, detractors of the 4 Series design may fear it will spread to other models. Those folks can relax, asBMW's Head of Design Domagoj Dukec specifically said in a media roundtable discussion that this is a design that was specifically created for the 4 Series.
On a broad scale, he explained that with BMW's expansive line of vehicles, the brand wants to start differentiating each model more, giving them unique identities. As such, the design team made sure the 4 Series wasn't just a smaller version of the 8 Series, or a larger version of the 2 Series. He also noted that customers don't just want a different size of one style. As for why the 4 Series is particularly bold, part of that has to do with a design decision that the even-numbered coupe and coupe-like models are to be more expressive and distinct than the odd-numbered sedan and crossover models. The takeaway is that the 4 Series design won't spread to everything, and there will probably be more conservatively designed models in the future, including popular models like the 3 Series sedan.
Another interesting note about the 4 Series styling is that it wasn't influenced by one particular market. Some people have posited that the 4 Series has such a prominent grille because of demand from buyers in China, but Dukec denied that, also noting that China is not a particularly large market for the 4 Series, taking about 10% of the model. Instead, he said the design was meant to be widely appealing for all its markets.
What did influence the design of the nose was a combination of history and desire for design innovation. Dukec noted that BMW has a long history of more vertical kidney grilles, particularly early models that housed tall radiators. As such this 4 Series pays tribute to those cars. But as many modern BMWs have thin, wide twin-kidney grilles, it gave the large, vertical design an opportunity to break the mold, too. Some of the same thought went into the rear pillar design that only seems to hint at the trademark Hofmeister kink. But again, this is just one model, and such bold design will probably only carry over to other select BMWs, if any.
the first thing that man said was training the weak willed into liking the car.
"when was the last time a design captured your emotion? the new 4 is it!"
subconsciously priming the weak willed to like it.
same thing with acura. subconsciously priming the mind to fork over $50k for a vehicle.
yet, these cars dont really excite many. are we at peak cars? are we in a time where cars are just not that exciting?
Well, hang on. I think there are still plenty of cars out there that make my heart race.
Porsche, the Corvette (the new one), the RS6 Avant, the M5, Ferraris, Aston Martin...I could go on. I just think in THIS case, somebody took a bit too much legalized cannabis when designing and then approving this 4er.
Well, hang on. I think there are still plenty of cars out there that make my heart race.
Porsche, the Corvette (the new one), the RS6 Avant, the M5, Ferraris, Aston Martin...I could go on. I just think in THIS case, somebody took a bit too much legalized cannabis when designing and then approving this 4er.
My bad, I missed the context of @justnspace 's post.
$50K...?
I am a big fan of the MX-5. The Alfa Giulia is also in that price point, right? BMW's still got some riots that didn't turn ugly like the M2? What about the Cayman?