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Old 09-10-2019, 05:55 PM
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If Infiniti made a Mustang, it probably will look like this....
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Old 09-11-2019, 09:52 AM
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The grill is horrendous, but WTF were they thinking getting rid of the hoffmeister kink? From the back and side this looks like an Infiniti.
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I kinda likeit. an all blacked out grille will sway some people
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I dont like it.. but i dont hate it either like a lot of people on BMW forum

If i get it, at least my GF won't keep telling me that BMW all look the same anymore

But this is the Concept... the tune down version might be better.. or it could be a lot worse ... we will see.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I dont like it.. but i dont hate it either like a lot of people on BMW forum

If i get it, at least my GF won't keep telling me that BMW all look the same anymore

But this is the Concept... the tune down version might be better.. or it could be a lot worse ... we will see.
I just say "Still better than Bangle"
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yah.. for those of you who dont know... this is not just face of 4 series. it will also be the same face for the next gen M3 and M4 since those 3 always share the similar front end

Better get used to it... i think it will be spreading soon... sigh..
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I dont like it.. but i dont hate it either like a lot of people on BMW forum

If i get it, at least my GF won't keep telling me that BMW all look the same anymore

But this is the Concept... the tune down version might be better.. or it could be a lot worse ... we will see.
Yeah I'm still holding out hope that the production version might be tamed down a little bit - and maybe an all black plus double slat M grille will improve the overall looks. Not really sure how it will look with a US front plate either. But I'm not a big fan of it - just like I'm not a big fan of the Lexus spindle grille or the old Acura power plenum. Yes I owned a 2014 GS350 - but that was probably the tamest version of Lexus's spindle grille.

I'm closely watching the G80 as potentially my next car (after the G20 M340i that I haven't even taken delivery of yet) But not really sure on the styling - the thing is that BMWs tend to lease really well compared to similarly priced Mercedes and Audis - the C63 AMG is probably out of my price range, so maybe a down size to the RS3 or CLA45S (if the S comes to the USA)? The RS5 is the closest price wise to what the F80/F82 were - but the lease price on a RS5 looks to be over $1200/month while BMW was providing lease support to get an F80 M3 down well under $1000/month. Maybe that isn't the case with the G80 when it comes out - but lease support has been pretty strong for the G20 already.
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This is the thing.. i personally think a design like this, a tamed down version might actually make it even uglier.... But we will see.

If M sport looks like that minus the obvious mini-mirror and 30" wheels. I might actually still consider the M440i GC.... unless they come out with a M4 GC...

But with a look like that, it should have at least a few horses than the M340i.... or it will be a "poser"
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My guess is the headlights that don't have a protective clear cover are probably not making the final version either - the spyshots for the 4 series and new M3 show normal looking headlights.
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https://acurazine.com/forums/automot.../#post16478987

tl;dr: NExt gen M3/4 keeping the MT as standard, DCT option.
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They gave up the round headlights. Maybe they should reconsider the grille too. This looks ridiculous.
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G22 4-series GC is reportedly debuting next Tuesday: https://www.live.bmwgroup.com/en/liv...OUP-14765.html
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A render of what the 4-series could look like instead.

This is approaching Acura beak levels of bad. They seriously couldn't integrate the radar in a symmetrical way? It looks even more awful now that I'm seeing this.


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The top render looks amazing, and a huge leap above the pig nose.
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The top is the 8 series no?
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If you want ugly cars , then spend over 60k on a car. .
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8 series face on 4 series body.. logistically speaking, 4 series coupe should look like a mini 8 series...

The 5 series LCI looks a lot like the 7 series LCI

Instead 4 series will stand out for the wrong reason... i read that BMW has no plan to expand those grilles in other models.... I am so glad
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I was scrolling back in this thread and found this picture that i posted, which is what made me want a 4 series in 2014..

How did they go from this:


To this This is even with m performance parts :vomit:





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Well, swapping out the grille isn't too hard, so maybe the aftermarket can come up with something that doesn't look so awful without changing the entire front bumper?
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Just in case if you thought you have seen the worst of it.. Here are the real life pix...




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Yeah, I can't do it. Mercedes/Audi/Porsche here I come.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Just in case if you thought you have seen the worst of it.. Here are the real life pix...


If it looks this ugly now, imagine the resale price after owning a base model for 4 years...
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How this was ever approved by BMW leadership ... It looks absolutely terrible.
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Originally Posted by Comfy
If it looks this ugly now, imagine the resale price after owning a base model for 4 years...
4 years too long. in matter of months already down 20%.


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The little "smile" the new 4-series has reminds me of the cheeky smile that the Altima has:





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Hey, Noob... here is USED CAR 101... most of the cars lose at least 20% the moment they drive off the lot

Dont believe me?.. go buy a TLX right now and trade it in the next day


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4 years too long. in matter of months already down 20%.


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Except i think the Altima looks better


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The little "smile" the new 4-series has reminds me of the cheeky smile that the Altima has:



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Old 06-09-2020, 12:38 PM
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@oonowindoo if you still end up getting the 4-series, we will be here to roast you Sam has moved on.

Literally, it's just the kidneys. If those were normal sized, it would be a great looking car. That Altima-grin would just be a normal looking grille.
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@oonowindoo if you still end up getting the 4-series, we will be here to roast you Sam has moved on.

Literally, it's just the kidneys. If those were normal sized, it would be a great looking car. That Altima-grin would just be a normal looking grille.
If i end up with 1, i would expect to be roasted here.. actually i probably would never tell you guys....

$$ talks...If they offer enough discount, I can live just walking from behind the car to get in... never walk in front of it...
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Reminds me of Hammond & the 1G Panamera. It's a great car from the inside, you just don't want to be seen driving one.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2

Reminds me of Hammond & the 1G Panamera. It's a great car from the inside, you just don't want to be seen driving one.
I'm about as big of a Porsche fanboy as you can get without having owned one... but man, the 1G Panamera was an ugly bloated jellybean. Looked like a beached whale. A slammed, widened Honda Crosstour. Newer Panameras look so much better.
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Agreed
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Hey, Noob... here is USED CAR 101... most of the cars lose at least 20% the moment they drive off the lot

Dont believe me?.. go buy a TLX right now and trade it in the next day
yes but not many buyers returning 2020 TLX and only Demo TLX are for sale. it is far easier to find used BMW.

why even buy 3/4 series when double wishbone suspension and better material 5 series similar price.
TLX Aspec SH-AWD very rare.
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yes but not many buyers returning 2020 TLX and only Demo TLX are for sale. it is far easier to find used BMW.

why even buy 3/4 series when double wishbone suspension and better material 5 series similar price.
TLX Aspec SH-AWD very rare.

Do you know why it is rare? Here is a shock news for you, because no one was stupid enough to buy them... you know what is more rare? RLX....

Why buy 3/4 series over 5 series? i dont know.. why do you think 3/4 series have higher sale # than 5 series? and that is your answer.


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the new 5 series 2021 MMC will further devalue current 5 series values even before the current leases are returned. I don't think Honda in this kind of business.
3 year old TLX still holding 60% of value.

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No one was comparing Honda with BMW... except for you... so stop posting picture of TLX in every thread in car news.

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starts at 1:58... the rear looks a lot better in video..

The front is still fugly


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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
No one was comparing Honda with BMW... except for you... so stop posting picture of TLX in every thread in car news.
there plenty of Honda and Acura dealers where BMW, MB and Tesla are traded. infact they dont want them and sent them straight to independent dealers who sell them at bargain basement prices.


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