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It's all a matter of taste and what we grew up with; however, I don't think it's a bad color. Better than most other color options out there for other cars. Anyone want a green Diablo SV?
Nogaro blue is to Audi as Plum Crazy is to Dodge as Grabber Blue is to Ford. I'm willing to bet if we grew up in Europe appreciating cars, those of you that don't like it, probably would feel differently about it.
Nogaro blue is to Audi as Plum Crazy is to Dodge as Grabber Blue is to Ford. I'm willing to bet if we grew up in Europe appreciating cars, those of you that don't like it, probably would feel differently about it.
#1363
^We're talking about the blue accents on the interior, no?
Yes, the interior matches the exterior. But the blue seats and door panels are over the top for what would easily be a $70k+ wagon. It reminds me of the first time I sat in an STi with a blue interior. Even as a 16 year-old I thought it was gaudy.
For a Diablo SV, I would go with green. Why the hell not?
Yes, the interior matches the exterior. But the blue seats and door panels are over the top for what would easily be a $70k+ wagon. It reminds me of the first time I sat in an STi with a blue interior. Even as a 16 year-old I thought it was gaudy.
For a Diablo SV, I would go with green. Why the hell not?
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^We're talking about the blue accents on the interior, no?
Yes, the interior matches the exterior. But the blue seats and door panels are over the top for what would easily be a $70k+ wagon. It reminds me of the first time I sat in an STi with a blue interior. Even as a 16 year-old I thought it was gaudy.
For a Diablo SV, I would go with green. Why the hell not?
Yes, the interior matches the exterior. But the blue seats and door panels are over the top for what would easily be a $70k+ wagon. It reminds me of the first time I sat in an STi with a blue interior. Even as a 16 year-old I thought it was gaudy.
For a Diablo SV, I would go with green. Why the hell not?
So you would choose Green over Black or red if given those options as well? I understand yellow, and orange have a love/hate relationship, but the green used on the Diablo SV just doesn't do it for me as far as sports cars go. When I think of the green used on the Diablo SV, I think of:
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From here: http://blog.caranddriver.com/next-ge...l-in-question/
Under German watch and Europe’s hyper-aggressive emissions laws, there’s no encore for naturally aspirated V-8s revving to kingdom come. As we witness Mercedes-Benz AMG euthanizing its big-bore 6.2-liter V-8, and BMW M GmbH replace the old M3’s 4.0-liter V-8 with a 3.0-liter twin-turbo straight-six, we must ask: what of Audi? Sadly, it too is swapping its free-breathing eight-cylinder for a forced-induction six-cylinder in some applications.
We’ve learned from deep within Audi that the next RS4 will trade its 450-hp, 4.2-liter V-8—the same mad mill as found in the RS5—for a turbocharged V-6. While plucking the 3.0-liter supercharged V-6 from Audi’s armada of S cars would seem the most logical choice, Quattro GmbH is instead shifting focus to turbos for its RS-branded models. We suspect Audi will affix a pair of turbochargers to the six-cylinder, which would allow the brand to trump the 430 horsepower of BMW’s new M4 and M3. Whether Audi will bring the RS4 or its new turbo six-cylinder to America is still undetermined.
This wouldn’t be the first time Quattro gave its RS4 a turbo six. During the 2000 and 2001 model years, Audi released an RS4 Avant with a 375-hp, 2.7-liter twin-turbo V-6 tuned by Cosworth, but only for Europe.
Audi knows the 4.2-liter V-8’s instant throttle response and 8500-rpm redline are huge selling points to simply throw away, but the brand’s been in the process replacing V-8s with V-6s for some time. The S4, S5, and A6 all were available with eight-cylinder power as recently as 2011. We haven’t missed those eight-cylinders as much as we’ve enjoyed the improved fuel economy and greater low-end torque from the new blown sixes. So long as Quattro maintains the RS4’s crackling exhaust, there won’t be time for a eulogy.
We’ve learned from deep within Audi that the next RS4 will trade its 450-hp, 4.2-liter V-8—the same mad mill as found in the RS5—for a turbocharged V-6. While plucking the 3.0-liter supercharged V-6 from Audi’s armada of S cars would seem the most logical choice, Quattro GmbH is instead shifting focus to turbos for its RS-branded models. We suspect Audi will affix a pair of turbochargers to the six-cylinder, which would allow the brand to trump the 430 horsepower of BMW’s new M4 and M3. Whether Audi will bring the RS4 or its new turbo six-cylinder to America is still undetermined.
This wouldn’t be the first time Quattro gave its RS4 a turbo six. During the 2000 and 2001 model years, Audi released an RS4 Avant with a 375-hp, 2.7-liter twin-turbo V-6 tuned by Cosworth, but only for Europe.
Audi knows the 4.2-liter V-8’s instant throttle response and 8500-rpm redline are huge selling points to simply throw away, but the brand’s been in the process replacing V-8s with V-6s for some time. The S4, S5, and A6 all were available with eight-cylinder power as recently as 2011. We haven’t missed those eight-cylinders as much as we’ve enjoyed the improved fuel economy and greater low-end torque from the new blown sixes. So long as Quattro maintains the RS4’s crackling exhaust, there won’t be time for a eulogy.
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A twin turbo v6 in an RS4 would still put a smile on my face. Especially considering that the V8 was plagued with scoring issues. Don't know if the Twin Turbo V6 will have it's share of issues though.
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Meet the new Audi A4 | Autoweek
Audi's best-selling model, the A4, is getting a significant makeover whose success will play a key part in the automaker's goal to topple BMW as the top-selling luxury brand globally and fend off a growing challenge from a resurgent Mercedes-Benz.
The redesigned A4, a rival to the BMW 3 series and Mercedes C-class, is slightly larger than the current model with a bigger, revamped interior.
It retains conservative styling to appeal to business fleet customers whose purchase choices are based more on rational than emotional decisions.
The A4 is the second Audi after the Q7 large SUV to adopt Volkswagen Group's second-generation MLB modular architecture. The A4 has the best drag coefficient in its class at 0.23, Audi said in a statement.
It is up to 265 pounds lighter than the current car despite growing in length to nearly 15.5 feet. Its wheelbase has been widened to 9.3 feet, boosting cabin space and rear passenger legroom.
Fuel consumption, reflecting improved aerodynamics and lighter weight, will fall as much as 21 percent while performance output will increase by 25 percent, Audi said.
The new A4 offers Audi’s fully digital instrument cluster dubbed a “virtual cockpit” as an option. It has a 12.3-inch liquid crystal display. Additionally the top-end infotainment system, MMI Navigation plus, offers a high-speed LTE connection, Wi-Fi hotspot and an 8.3-inch screen with a new voice-control system.
Soon after launch, customers will be able to order a detachable Audi tablet for rear seat entertainment or navigation. The Android-based device has a high-resolution 10.1 inch display and connects to MMI Navigation plus through the car’s Wi-Fi.
Audi claims the A4's handling has dramatically improved with re-engineered, forged aluminum five-link front and rear axles and all-new electromechanical power steering. For the first time, adjustable shock absorbers and variable damping will allow drivers to select between two suspension settings -- sport or comfort. Audi said the feature will be standard on models with 190 horsepower and more.
The A4 will offer three gasoline and four diesel engine choices in Europe, ranging from 150 hp to 272 hp. The most efficient engine is a 150-hp, 2.0-liter diesel.
Engine details for the U.S. market are still being finalized but Audi is expected to offer a diesel variant, a spokesman said.
Starting in late 2016, Audi plans to offer an A4 Avant g-tron variant that can run either on natural gas or the brand’s own sustainably produced e-gas, the second such model after the A3 Sportback g-tron. A plug-in hybrid version is also expected, although not confirmed by Audi.
Pricing for the new A4 has not been released.
The A4 is the last Audi model styled by Wolfgang Egger, who moved to Italdesign Giugario in early 2014. It will go on sale shortly after its public debut at the Frankfurt auto show in September. U.S. sales are expected to begin in mid 2016.
A4 sales
Audi sold 327,500 units of the A4 sedan, Avant station wagon and A4 allroad quattro worldwide last year, down just 3.8 percent even though the model is approaching the end of its life cycle. That means nearly one out of every five Audis sold in 2014 was an A4.
In the U.S., A4 sales fell 24 percent to 10,684 units through May.
BMW generated 480,000 deliveries of the 3 series, which is the best-selling premium midsize car globally.
Audi is spending 24 billion euros on technology and production in the next five years as it seeks to topple BMW from the No. 1 spot in the luxury-car market by 2020, an ambition also shared by current No. 3 Mercedes. Audi ranked No. 2 in luxury sales last year.
BMW remained the luxury leader in the first five months of 2015 with global sales of 759,609, an increase of 5.2 percent. Audi's volume rose 4.3 percent to 744,900, while Mercedes, boosted by new products, saw deliveries increase by 14 percent to 728,809.
The article, "Audi's next-gen A4 bigger, lighter, more fuel efficient" first appeared at Automotive News.
Audi's best-selling model, the A4, is getting a significant makeover whose success will play a key part in the automaker's goal to topple BMW as the top-selling luxury brand globally and fend off a growing challenge from a resurgent Mercedes-Benz.
The redesigned A4, a rival to the BMW 3 series and Mercedes C-class, is slightly larger than the current model with a bigger, revamped interior.
It retains conservative styling to appeal to business fleet customers whose purchase choices are based more on rational than emotional decisions.
The A4 is the second Audi after the Q7 large SUV to adopt Volkswagen Group's second-generation MLB modular architecture. The A4 has the best drag coefficient in its class at 0.23, Audi said in a statement.
It is up to 265 pounds lighter than the current car despite growing in length to nearly 15.5 feet. Its wheelbase has been widened to 9.3 feet, boosting cabin space and rear passenger legroom.
Fuel consumption, reflecting improved aerodynamics and lighter weight, will fall as much as 21 percent while performance output will increase by 25 percent, Audi said.
The new A4 offers Audi’s fully digital instrument cluster dubbed a “virtual cockpit” as an option. It has a 12.3-inch liquid crystal display. Additionally the top-end infotainment system, MMI Navigation plus, offers a high-speed LTE connection, Wi-Fi hotspot and an 8.3-inch screen with a new voice-control system.
Soon after launch, customers will be able to order a detachable Audi tablet for rear seat entertainment or navigation. The Android-based device has a high-resolution 10.1 inch display and connects to MMI Navigation plus through the car’s Wi-Fi.
Audi claims the A4's handling has dramatically improved with re-engineered, forged aluminum five-link front and rear axles and all-new electromechanical power steering. For the first time, adjustable shock absorbers and variable damping will allow drivers to select between two suspension settings -- sport or comfort. Audi said the feature will be standard on models with 190 horsepower and more.
The A4 will offer three gasoline and four diesel engine choices in Europe, ranging from 150 hp to 272 hp. The most efficient engine is a 150-hp, 2.0-liter diesel.
Engine details for the U.S. market are still being finalized but Audi is expected to offer a diesel variant, a spokesman said.
Starting in late 2016, Audi plans to offer an A4 Avant g-tron variant that can run either on natural gas or the brand’s own sustainably produced e-gas, the second such model after the A3 Sportback g-tron. A plug-in hybrid version is also expected, although not confirmed by Audi.
Pricing for the new A4 has not been released.
The A4 is the last Audi model styled by Wolfgang Egger, who moved to Italdesign Giugario in early 2014. It will go on sale shortly after its public debut at the Frankfurt auto show in September. U.S. sales are expected to begin in mid 2016.
A4 sales
Audi sold 327,500 units of the A4 sedan, Avant station wagon and A4 allroad quattro worldwide last year, down just 3.8 percent even though the model is approaching the end of its life cycle. That means nearly one out of every five Audis sold in 2014 was an A4.
In the U.S., A4 sales fell 24 percent to 10,684 units through May.
BMW generated 480,000 deliveries of the 3 series, which is the best-selling premium midsize car globally.
Audi is spending 24 billion euros on technology and production in the next five years as it seeks to topple BMW from the No. 1 spot in the luxury-car market by 2020, an ambition also shared by current No. 3 Mercedes. Audi ranked No. 2 in luxury sales last year.
BMW remained the luxury leader in the first five months of 2015 with global sales of 759,609, an increase of 5.2 percent. Audi's volume rose 4.3 percent to 744,900, while Mercedes, boosted by new products, saw deliveries increase by 14 percent to 728,809.
The article, "Audi's next-gen A4 bigger, lighter, more fuel efficient" first appeared at Automotive News.
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Some pics...
#1371
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Me like. Mostly because they didn't make a huge change from a popular shape.
Can't wait to see the next S4.
Can't wait to see the next S4.
#1372
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Maybe I have to see it in person but I dont get this new drop in ipad craze. It looks so out of place
#1373
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I really believe it is so they can drop the screen completely in this generation. Now that the DIS is a navigation screen, they can continue to upgrade the software and then get rid of the iPad and still have a dashboard that works without it. Or, if the phase out is more gradual, this is a transition phase before the B10 platform that removes it completely.
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This design is something different? Tell me more, Jony + Ive. It looks like every other VAG sedan from the last 5 years.
"Hey, nice Audi. Is that the new one?"
Or the old one
Or the big one
Or the middle one
Or the loaner car
Or did you just slap a tall grille on your Jetta?
Don't get me wrong, I like some of their products, and they are absolutely catering more to enthusiasts than Acura. But they have been phoning it in on their sedan designs for a while.
"Hey, nice Audi. Is that the new one?"
Or the old one
Or the big one
Or the middle one
Or the loaner car
Or did you just slap a tall grille on your Jetta?
Don't get me wrong, I like some of their products, and they are absolutely catering more to enthusiasts than Acura. But they have been phoning it in on their sedan designs for a while.
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So it has 2 Idrive knobs?
#1381
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A lot of time spent talking about the self-driving features:
High Tech all the Way ? the New Audi A4 and A4 Avant - Fourtitude.com
High Tech all the Way ? the New Audi A4 and A4 Avant - Fourtitude.com
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2016 Audi S4
Press release...
The heart of the S models is a newly developed V6 engine with petrol direct injection and turbocharging. The 3.0 TFSI has an output of 260 kW (354 hp); its 500 Nm (368.8 lb‑ft) of torque is available across a wide range of speeds from 1,300 to 4,500 rpm. The engine outstrips its predecessor in terms of power and torque, while simultaneously offering significantly lower fuel consumption and weight.
The engine can accelerate the Audi S4 from 0 to 100 km/h (0 to 62 mph) in 4.7 seconds, and the electronic limiter kicks in at 250 km/h (155.3 mph). Despite its considerably improved performance, the V6 is extremely efficient. In the NEDC cycle, the S4 Sedan consumes less than 7.4 liters of fuel per 100 kilometers with 170 grams CO2 per kilometer (31.8 US mpg [273.6 g/mi]).
The new eight-speed tiptronic transmission is highly efficient and provides fast, comfortable and spontaneous gear changes. Whenever the driving situation allows, it switches to freewheeling to save fuel.
As on every Audi S model, the power of the 3.0 TFSI is transmitted to the road by quattro permanent all-wheel drive. During normal driving, the selflocking center differential funnels 60 percent of engine torque to the rear axle and 40 percent to the front. Depending on the operating situation, it can distribute up to 70 percent to the front axle or up to 85 percent to the rear. The wheel-selective torque control based on an intelligent software function rounds off the quattro drive train. For dynamic cornering, the wheels on the inside of the bend are slightly braked before they can slip. This makes handling more precise, agile, and stable. A sport differential available as an option improves the handling further by actively distributing the forces between the rear wheels.
Intelligent dynamics: suspension
The new Audi S4 and S4 Avant handle corners of all kinds with aplomb – whether on a racetrack or a mountain pass. For fast motorway driving, both models feature impressive straight-line stability. This performance is down to the newly developed suspension. The five-link suspension on the front and rear axle precisely separates the longitudinal and transverse forces, thus ensuring optimum handling in all driving situations. Like the electromechanical power steering, both are designed to be very lightweight. Variable speed-dependent dynamic steering is available as an option.
The standard S sport suspension is 23 millimeters (0.9 in) lower than on the basic model. The ride height is the same with the optional suspension with active damper control. Along with the engine, steering, tiptronic and sport differential, CDC dampers (CDC = continuous damping control) are included in the Audi drive select handling system which comes as standard. This enables the driver to adjust the suspension characteristics in several modes.
The standard 18 inch wheels in 5‑twin-spoke star design roll on 245/40 size tires. A 19‑inch alternative is available from quattro GmbH. Powerful, stable brakes are fitted on the large wheels.
Sporty understatement: design
The appearance of the new S4 models is subtly understated. At the front, the Singleframe grille and the accentuated horizontal lines underline the width. The bumpers and air inlets are prominently profiled. Many of the add-on parts are painted in finely graduated matt gray tones, accentuated with chrome trimming at selected points.
The exterior mirror housings in aluminum look are a visual highlight on the clear flowing side lines of the 4.74 meter long S4 (15.6 ft). The strongly profiled sill trims also give both models a striking appearance. On the tailgate, a separating edge provides targeted aerodynamics. The S‑specific rear bumper integrates a black honeycomb grille, an S‑typical diffuser clip, and the four tailpipes of the dual-branch exhaust system. Intelligent composite construction characterizes the body. This makes it exceptionally torsionally rigid, safe, and lightweight. It is the basis for the low unladen weight of the car. The sedan with quattro drive as standard tips the scales at 1,630 kilograms (3593.5 lb), the Avant at 1,675 kilograms (3692.7 lb).
The engine can accelerate the Audi S4 from 0 to 100 km/h (0 to 62 mph) in 4.7 seconds, and the electronic limiter kicks in at 250 km/h (155.3 mph). Despite its considerably improved performance, the V6 is extremely efficient. In the NEDC cycle, the S4 Sedan consumes less than 7.4 liters of fuel per 100 kilometers with 170 grams CO2 per kilometer (31.8 US mpg [273.6 g/mi]).
The new eight-speed tiptronic transmission is highly efficient and provides fast, comfortable and spontaneous gear changes. Whenever the driving situation allows, it switches to freewheeling to save fuel.
As on every Audi S model, the power of the 3.0 TFSI is transmitted to the road by quattro permanent all-wheel drive. During normal driving, the selflocking center differential funnels 60 percent of engine torque to the rear axle and 40 percent to the front. Depending on the operating situation, it can distribute up to 70 percent to the front axle or up to 85 percent to the rear. The wheel-selective torque control based on an intelligent software function rounds off the quattro drive train. For dynamic cornering, the wheels on the inside of the bend are slightly braked before they can slip. This makes handling more precise, agile, and stable. A sport differential available as an option improves the handling further by actively distributing the forces between the rear wheels.
Intelligent dynamics: suspension
The new Audi S4 and S4 Avant handle corners of all kinds with aplomb – whether on a racetrack or a mountain pass. For fast motorway driving, both models feature impressive straight-line stability. This performance is down to the newly developed suspension. The five-link suspension on the front and rear axle precisely separates the longitudinal and transverse forces, thus ensuring optimum handling in all driving situations. Like the electromechanical power steering, both are designed to be very lightweight. Variable speed-dependent dynamic steering is available as an option.
The standard S sport suspension is 23 millimeters (0.9 in) lower than on the basic model. The ride height is the same with the optional suspension with active damper control. Along with the engine, steering, tiptronic and sport differential, CDC dampers (CDC = continuous damping control) are included in the Audi drive select handling system which comes as standard. This enables the driver to adjust the suspension characteristics in several modes.
The standard 18 inch wheels in 5‑twin-spoke star design roll on 245/40 size tires. A 19‑inch alternative is available from quattro GmbH. Powerful, stable brakes are fitted on the large wheels.
Sporty understatement: design
The appearance of the new S4 models is subtly understated. At the front, the Singleframe grille and the accentuated horizontal lines underline the width. The bumpers and air inlets are prominently profiled. Many of the add-on parts are painted in finely graduated matt gray tones, accentuated with chrome trimming at selected points.
The exterior mirror housings in aluminum look are a visual highlight on the clear flowing side lines of the 4.74 meter long S4 (15.6 ft). The strongly profiled sill trims also give both models a striking appearance. On the tailgate, a separating edge provides targeted aerodynamics. The S‑specific rear bumper integrates a black honeycomb grille, an S‑typical diffuser clip, and the four tailpipes of the dual-branch exhaust system. Intelligent composite construction characterizes the body. This makes it exceptionally torsionally rigid, safe, and lightweight. It is the basis for the low unladen weight of the car. The sedan with quattro drive as standard tips the scales at 1,630 kilograms (3593.5 lb), the Avant at 1,675 kilograms (3692.7 lb).
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A completely logical redesign. It looks like a smaller S6 which looks like a smaller S8.
It is a bit bland, especially compared to an ATS-V, C63, M3 ... 354HP and 368lb-ft of torque is pretty competitive generally but those three other cars all have over 400hp.
It is a bit bland, especially compared to an ATS-V, C63, M3 ... 354HP and 368lb-ft of torque is pretty competitive generally but those three other cars all have over 400hp.
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#1387
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I have a 2008 b7A4 2.0 T Quattro with a stage one tune. Most fave car since my Integra GSR. Refined, quick and AWD. I see these new ones coming out and want one so bad! But with only 74k on the ticker and the fact its paid for keeps me driving mine.
Expensive to maintain yes...but what a wonderful car for a daily driver.
Expensive to maintain yes...but what a wonderful car for a daily driver.
#1388
2024 Honda Civic Type R
Love the wheels. And the front end looks great, especially with the new LED headlights. The interior looks fantastic, too.
But I don't know about the rear. It almost looks too much like an S3. And a bit bland to me, as others were saying.
Power numbers are good. But I wonder what the price will start at?
For the money, I'd rather have a Focus RS. And I've always loved the S4.
But I don't know about the rear. It almost looks too much like an S3. And a bit bland to me, as others were saying.
Power numbers are good. But I wonder what the price will start at?
For the money, I'd rather have a Focus RS. And I've always loved the S4.
#1389
Team Owner
More like 340 and 435.
I have seen some perfermance figures. I expected it be faster considering it has 50 more hp and torque than 435 and AWD too (for the 0-60 fanatics)
#1390
Lola
S4 isn't a M/AMG ccompetitor, RS4 is.
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Those ATS-V, C63, M3 all start above $60k.... the S4, like the 340i xdrive, start at just below $50k. In that case, the S4 has a bit more power.
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First time your post made me LOL, iforyou. Good job.
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On the other hand, the ATS-V/C63/M3 are available for sales in North America.
It is what we can buy where we live that counts.