acuragal

We only recieved the colour charts for the "04 Acura line up. Not the actual TL brochure.

RJC RSX

--mntallman, TOV forums

JeffPhx

Please post the colour chart. Anyone have the chart for US too??

RJC RSX

mntallman apparantly has seen it, told me Abyss Blue would be available in quartz and carmel

nh-603p

NIGHTHAWK BLACK PEARL, CAMEL OR EBONY LEATHER IN ALL THREE TRIM LEVELS
SATIN SILVER MATALLIC, EBONY LEATHER IN ALL THREE TRIM LEVELS.
DESERT MIST METALLIC, PARCHMENT LEATHER IN TL AND NAVI PACKAGE.
WHITE DIAMOND PEARL, PARCHMENT LEATHER TL AND NAVI PACKAGE BUT IN THE DYNAMIC PACKAGE ITS EBONY INTERIOR.
ANTHRACITE METALIC, EBONY LEATHER IN DYNAMIC PACKAGE ONLY.
ABYSS BLUE PEARL, CAMEL OR EBONY LEATHER, IN TL AND NAVI PACKAGE.
REDONDO RED PEARL, EBONY LEATHER IN DYNAMIC PACKAGE ONLY


FOR CANADA.

RJC RSX

so canada isn't getting quartz?

acuragal

no quartz for tl but this year we get the pearl white for the mdx

RJC RSX

did you see the shades of the colors, or just the names?

Colin

Well the 3.2 designation will be dropped from the model name.... I still think the car will have a 3.2 engine........ although without the designation, it does make it easier to change the engine as needed doesn't it?

RJC RSX

i hope they up the displacement (3.4 sounds good) so we can get even more torque

need4spd_RENAMED

I am not getting white with parchment, I guess I will have to go with the dynamic (HPT) option, or the silver with ebony!

I wish they would offer the HPT (dynamic package) with the auto, it would save my marriage - Acura, if you are listening, please reconsider.

I guess I may have to go manual against the better half's wishes, vs give up those brembo's

need4spd_RENAMED

Hey Acuragal --

Did it say that the TL Dynamic Pkge was a Manual tranny only option???

That has been the million dollar question on this site ever since AWD was no longer an option - Awaiting your information

need4spd_RENAMED

Still catching up on the posts -

nh-603p - thanks for the info, sounds like they are still showing the concept car photos, you are right, in the concept car it was clear that the turn indicator in the head light assembly was a stick of light, many makers are using neon tubes (bmw in the 5, the dodge magnum, etc as the turn indicators, would be cool if it makes it to production.

The concept car had close ups of the headlight assembly and the wheel/tire - it too shows a goodyear tire - those are available at acuranews.com - site has been posted before, let me know if you need it to compare.

Lets hope the pictures you saw were really the produciton car, and not the concept at the NY autoshow

need4spd_RENAMED

Thanks Colin, you still didn't answer on those frequent flier tickts to the Drive and Ride for the TL

RJC RSX

I now think that HPT is indeed just a performance summer tire package, although, I also think that the 6MT will come with a stiffer suspension and probably brembos vs. the auto.

RJC RSX

so when do we think a VTM-4 AWD system for the new TL will be coming out? Justin indicated that it would be in the near future...could that be 6 months? A year? Two years?

JeffPhx

Thanks nh-603p for the Canadian colour charts!! Based on the Canadian chart, I'm guessing Desert Mist and maybe the blue and red won't be available model wide in the US and auto only?????

P.S. It is about time the MDX gets pearl white.

JeffPhx

We know all of the colors except the blue that you have on order. I bet it will be some shade of dark blue. I'm also interested in seeing what the camel interior looks like too. The camel interior they use in the NSX is very beige and almost like parchment.

JeffPhx

I would guess at least two years. They probably won't bring it out until the new 05 RL comes out so they can "showcase" it in their top-of-the-line model first. Since they are showing the (concept) RL at the Tokyo auto show this fall, we won't see the car till next spring/summer??? So, I bet the TL AWD will occur kind of like the Type S of the current model as a mid-model reskin/touch up just to keep sales strong.

Justin, you did mention that the TSX will be gaining another model too. Any info on that??

Colin

Thanks for the offer, if it look like I moght be able to deliver something special then it might be worthwhile, too early to tell. My biggest concern is that by the time we get our hands on it, it will be available for everyone only a few days later.

Booyah

Great news! So I would guess that if you were to get the Dynamic package that would also include the Navi system?

IS the Dynamic Pack actually the HPT option?

It's to bad we cant get the HPT option with the Automatic that kind of stinks as I would like to have both.....also is the 5-Speed Auto a do-it-yourself shift like in the currant TL? Thanks and I cant wait to see some Picts

larchmont

I bet NOT.

Especially since Acura/Honda can see from these boards that a lot if not most of the enthusiast types are conscientious objectors about Nav.

RJC RSX

That makes sense, but here's another thought. The new RL will showcase acura's IMA performance oriented awd system, and the TL could still have VTM-4 AWD beforehand.

JeffPhx

That would be nice, but I can't see Acura doing it though.....unfortunately. It might be to much overlap with the new RL and Honda/Acura usually leaves a lot of spaces between their models.

acuragal

acuragal

Hi need for speed!
We have no info. on what each package of TL trim level comes with. But I will keep all of you posted as the info, starts to serfice.And the colour book we have recieved is the actual colour chips for the TL.

acuragal

Yes we have seen the actual shades of the new TL.::

RJC RSX

what shade blue is Abyss Blue?

acuragal

Yes we have seen the actual shades of the new TL.::

acuragal

It is a darker blue, not quite like midnight blue. I like it.

Fast_Car_Fanatic

This forum is really interesting :-)

Has anybody noticed that the VOLVO C70 comes in 2 trims now
1) LPT (Low Pressure Turbo)
2) HPT (High Pressure Turbo)

Not sure if ACURA is planning a TURBO but it will be cool if they do !!!

larchmont

Welcome!

Look for this to be good for another 20 pages of speculation.

Seems doubtful, but I'd put more money on Turbo than on "T for tire."

RJC RSX

i think HPT is just something that acura knew would leak out and would attract attention because everyone is guessing what it stands for, etc. I bet it isn't even called HPT when the car comes out

98AccordEx

I guessed that on like page 5 of this same forum and got shot down by justinjsw, but who knows he was insisting that HPT was VTM-4wd back then.

from Page 5:
HPT???
Not that this is typical Honda but is it possible that HPT = High Pressure Turbo???
You seem to be eluding to it with your comments about not worrying about HP/Torque?

jwaters943

I just wanted to chime in and say that Honda has never used a turbo-charged engine, be it low pressure (ala VW/Audi) or high pressure (ala Volvo/Saab) that I am aware of. That combined with the fact that a "high pressured turbo" would cause massive torque steer in a FWD vehicle lead me to believe HPT in no way stands for High Pressured Turbo on the new TL.

If Honda/Acura ever decided to install a turbo on one of their vehicles, it would be on something like the S2000 or NSX. A sports car w/ RWD that could handle the power. Even so, I don't see that happening anytime soon. Turbos put a lot of stress on engines and Honda is not willing to compromise on the long term reliability of its engines.

EmuMessenger

Speculation is running rampant! Do we have any new facts?

RJC RSX

jwaters, honda does employee a turbo engine in their top-of-the-line personal water craft.

that said, there's no way there's going to be a turbo in the new TL, or any other honda car until they can perfect the reliability. Also as jwaters mentioned, any turbo would debut on one of their high-end performance cars.

Stash

The TL Dynamic Package is ONLY on the manual and will feature a far sportier suspension then the Automatic. Expect 2 totally different cars. The TL Dynamic is almost like a TL-Type S in comparison to the auto.

RJC RSX

I'm confused now. Does the dynamic package = HPT, but called differently in Canada? Or is the dynamic package something that comes standard on the 6sp and includes the stiffer suspension, etc. vs. the auto?

acura_driver

I really hope that isn't the case. I want the sequential automatic (though I've not seen it confirmed that it is STILL a sequential automatic), no sacrifice in power compared to the HPT model, and only a small sacrifice in handling compared to the HPT model (I'm not concerned about tires since I can upgrade those on my own), and I want Navi. While I might consider going back to a manual transmission, there has been speculation that the HPT model might not include Navi. Like everyone, I guess I'll wait and hope that what I want shows up at the dealer in a few months!

-r