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Old 06-09-2006, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
EPA city driving: 19 mpg
EPA highway driving: 24 mpg
I hope that's wrong.
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our CL's get better mileage
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
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our CL's get better mileage
Keep in mind it does weigh about 500 lbs more, and that it is a SUV/CUV-whatever, the drag coefficient is probably higher as well.

Overall though, it does seem a bit on the low side. I was expecting ~20 city, ~30 freeway.
Old 06-09-2006, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by goldmemberer
I hope that's wrong.
disappointing number indeed.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
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our CL's get better mileage
Your CL also doesn't weigh nearly 4000 lbs. (despite the fact that it may feel like it from behind the wheel) and have AWD.

And from what I understand, those are preliminary estimates. The official EPA ratings I don't think have been released yet.
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4000lbs + SH-AWD is going to hurt fuel economy regardless of engine choice. The RL weighs 4000lbs and it gets 18/26mpg.
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I am not at all impressed by this effort from Acura.

Bland styling being the biggest factor for me.
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Originally Posted by iNteGraz92




you're reaching. i'll give you the sorento, but the rest look nothing like the rx300 or rx330/350
The Sorento does strongly mimic the RX300 and there is just no way the Murano could be mistaken for an RX (and vice versa).
Old 06-09-2006, 11:26 AM
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^ This vehicle looks a TON better live. Especially from the rear. When I saw it at the Chicago Auto Show, I got it. Up until then, I was very down on it from photos. Plus, although I have not sat inside it, the interior looks very nice. If it's priced at low 30s, it will hurt the X3 no doubt.
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Right now, BMW is pretty much on its 'A-game' when it comes to the X3, X5, E90 and E60. (The only current BMW model that seems to turn buyers off is the E66.)

That said, I doubt the RDX (as cool an SUV as I witnessed at the NY Auto Show) will cause BMW X3 buyers to migrate to Acura. But what it will do is lure those that may be crosshopping the new RAV4 or those who want to upgrade from the CRV.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Your CL also doesn't weigh nearly 4000 lbs. (despite the fact that it may feel like it from behind the wheel) and have AWD.

And from what I understand, those are preliminary estimates. The official EPA ratings I don't think have been released yet.
Originally Posted by subtledreamer
Keep in mind it does weigh about 500 lbs more, and that it is a SUV/CUV-whatever, the drag coefficient is probably higher as well.

Overall though, it does seem a bit on the low side. I was expecting ~20 city, ~30 freeway.
Just a comparison... (i got the info from edmunds.com)

The BMW X3 weighs in at a little over 5000 lbs. It has a 6 cyl engine and AWD. It's mpg estimates are 17 city and 25 freeway.

I really do hope the RDX mileage ratings are estimates and do improve. Otherwise, well to me at least, it doesn't make sense that a car that weighs considerably less than the x3, has the same mileage as the x3.

Granted the RDX does have higher hp and torque ratings. But driven conservatively, isn't a turbo suppose to improve gas mileage?



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I looked up some more info because edmunds info just didn't seem right.

The X3 weights 4023lbs! not 5050lbs as edmunds thinks.

So perhaps the mileage ratings are correct for the RDX. Although I still wonder about the turbo giving the RDX given better mileage if driven conservatively.

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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
I looked up some more info because edmunds info just didn't seem right.

The X3 weights 4023lbs! not 5050lbs as edmunds thinks.

So perhaps the mileage ratings are correct for the RDX. Although I still wonder about the turbo giving the RDX given better mileage if driven conservatively.

if u check x3world a lot of owners are getting 12-17 city and 18-23 highway. so the rdx's 19/26 is pretty good. also the cx-7 is about the same isnt it?
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^^^ yea, compared to the 'real-world' numbers of the x3, the rdx on paper sounds better. after they hit the road we'll really get to find out if it lives up to it's character.

I know nothing about the cx-7
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The interior, as always kicks ass! Too bad the exterior looks a bit too plain.
Old 06-09-2006, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by iamhomin
The interior, as always kicks ass! Too bad the exterior looks a bit too plain.
I preferred the concept RDX over the production RDX. There was a striking feature to the front fascia of the concept; in the production version it looks completely watered down. I think it was the way the pulled-back headlamps had to be made larger to accompany real working headlights.
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
if u check x3world a lot of owners are getting 12-17 city and 18-23 highway. so the rdx's 19/26 is pretty good. also the cx-7 is about the same isnt it?
MY08 change for milage testing is not coming fast enough - hopefully those numbers will put to rest all of these milage comparisons.
Old 06-09-2006, 09:30 PM
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MY08 change for milage testing is not coming fast enough - hopefully those numbers will put to rest all of these milage comparisons.
I'm willing to bet good money that the RDX's real world mileage will be a lot better than the EPA ratings, and definetely better than the real world mileage of an X3. Otherwise, I'd be sorely, sorely disappointed in Acura.
Old 06-10-2006, 07:27 PM
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I saw the review of the RDX on Motorweek. Very nice and positive review. They said the engine puts out 240HP? Wasn't the inital spec 260 HP? It seems like many some come out with a new drivetrain that is just enough for the market and then bump the HP soon thereafter. Kinda funny that Motorweek had a review of the CX-7 right after it and the drivetrain numbers on it are the same - I didn't know it has a detuned engine out of the Mazdaspeed6.

So this means the 08 TSX will have 240HP and then it will get bumped to 260HP after a couple of years to keep up with the market? Motorweek mentioned that the RDX is the SUV equivalent of the TSX.
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Originally Posted by phile
I preferred the concept RDX over the production RDX. There was a striking feature to the front fascia of the concept; in the production version it looks completely watered down. I think it was the way the pulled-back headlamps had to be made larger to accompany real working headlights.

I really don't agree. The concept is no more striking than the production model.
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So this means the 08 TSX will have 240HP and then it will get bumped to 260HP after a couple of years to keep up with the market? Motorweek mentioned that the RDX is the SUV equivalent of the TSX.

Only if they give the TSX a turbo and more torque than HP...but given Acura traditions, It'll probalby have 240hp with N/A but a lot less torque.
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So this means the 08 TSX will have 240HP and then it will get bumped to 260HP after a couple of years to keep up with the market? Motorweek mentioned that the RDX is the SUV equivalent of the TSX.
or to be used in this....

https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/tsx-coupe-wtf-341172/
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I'm not convinced I would like SH-AWD in a TSX. I think it would weigh a lot and probably sap a bit of the sportiness we currently enjoy. The 240hp turbo would be nice though.
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I'm not convinced I would like SH-AWD in a TSX. I think it would weigh a lot and probably sap a bit of the sportiness we currently enjoy. The 240hp turbo would be nice though.
While that may be true it seems like Honda will go the way of Audi (Quatro), and whore SHAWD into all of its products.

My guess is that we'll have a SHAWD TSX with the RDX drivetrain for 08 along with an optional FWD diesel TSX.
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I'd like to know what's up with the Navi. Why does it have the "i-Drive"-like knob that the RL does? It better be ALSO touch screen. If not, Honda is making a huge huge mistake.
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I'd like to know what's up with the Navi. Why does it have the "i-Drive"-like knob that the RL does? It better be ALSO touch screen. If not, Honda is making a huge huge mistake.
I disagree. I didn't think I would like the RL's setup when I first started using it, but I found that it is incredibly user friendly and the voice commands really control most things while driving.
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Everyone other than Lexus is going to regular LCD displays - they are cheaper and more reliable than touchscreens. Look for a joystick in a car near you.
Also, the joystick allows the placement of the screen higher up in the dash - doesn't have to be within reach of driver.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
I disagree. I didn't think I would like the RL's setup when I first started using it, but I found that it is incredibly user friendly and the voice commands really control most things while driving.

i never use voice commands... i would be very sad if the next tl/tsx move to the joystick.
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ACURA RDX UNOFFICIAL PRICING (This was posted from a TOV member):

Acura Division is pleased to announce pricing for the new 2007 RDX sport utility vehicle.

The RDX is an exciting addition to the Acura line-up, helping to strengthen the Acura brand presence in light trucks. With the performance of a sport sedan and the utility of an SUV, RDX is sure to attract a wide variety of performance-oriented customers.

Emphasizing class-leading performance, technologies, and feature content, the RDX will become the benchmark in the emerging Entry Premium SUV segment. RDX not only has the hardware, but also an attractive & aggressive design, perfectly suited for the owner’s urban adventure.

In true Acura fashion, the RDX will be fully featured from the start. For the growing number of tech savvy buyers, a factory option Technology Package will be available, adding the following content:

· Acura Navigation System with Voice RecognitionTM and rearview camera

· AcuraLinkTM satellite communication system with real-time traffic

· Acura/ELS Surround® Premium 10-Speaker Sound System with 6-disc CD & DVD-Audio

· HandsFreeLinkTM wireless telephone interface

· Acura personalized settings



MSRP is as follows:

RDX - $32,995

RDX with Technology Package - $36,495




The on-sale date of the RDX is planned for August 10, 2006
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Maybe 1k more than what was expected. Not bad.

But I just can't get over the ho-hum styling and poor MPG.
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navi should be a standalone option otherwise i agree with dom, about 1k more than i expected
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Originally Posted by dom
Maybe 1k more than what was expected. Not bad.

But I just can't get over the ho-hum styling and poor MPG.
I really don't think the gas mileage is that bad considering the size and weight of the vehicle. And styling is always subjective.

As for the price, if this ends up being corroborated officially, then I was dead on with my guess.
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Maybe 1k more than what was expected. Not bad.

But I just can't get over the ho-hum styling and poor MPG.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
I really don't think the gas mileage is that bad considering the size and weight of the vehicle. And styling is always subjective.

Kev, I've read everything you wrote about this in the RDX section I agree with it all 100%. It all makes sense as to why the fuel economy is what it is.

BUT, its just not acceptable IMO coming from Honda. Weight's up, use a V6.

We'll see how it sells. My guess based on percentage of sales is far better than the RL but not as successful as the TSX.

Any idea what they aimimg for? 30K per year maybe?
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Kev, I've read everything you wrote about this in the RDX section I agree with it all 100%. It all makes sense as to why the fuel economy is what it is.

BUT, its just not acceptable IMO coming from Honda. Weight's up, use a V6.

We'll see how it sells. My guess based on percentage of sales is far better than the RL but not as successful as the TSX.

Any idea what they aimimg for? 30K per year maybe?
I think the issue with the V6 was weight. A V6 motor is going to weight a fair amount more than the I4 with the turbo and given that the new ACE body structures are already heavier than traditional unibodies, I think Honda was aiming to find a way to reduce the weight where it could.

As for the sales, I would say your assessment is probably in the area. I would guess that it should mirror or be slightly below the TL sales when the 3rd gen TL was first introduced.
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3.5K for navi and a nicer radio?!?!?!
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3.5K for navi and a nicer radio?!?!?!
And the bluetooth handsfree. Plus, the radio upgrade is pretty substantial as it is the ELS DVD-A system with 5.1 surround.
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Originally Posted by dom
Maybe 1k more than what was expected. Not bad.
Same here. I posted 32K on the RDX thread when prices were being thrown around, and everyone thought I was crazy.
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Saw a black one on the street yesterday, looks pretty good, but definitely nothing spectacular/turn-heads.
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wonder if they will add v6 during mid-life changes? I'm willing to pay 38K for V6 with tech package. I like what GM did with Aracadia v6, 6-speed and 17-24mpg. I know GM is no Acura but I wish I can pick and choose what I want.


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