Need help with Amp

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 12, 2001 | 03:30 PM
  #1  
nootch's Avatar
Thread Starter
Number 37
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,122
Likes: 0
From: Scottsdale AZ
Need help with Amp

I have a orion xtr 400 watt amp running my 12, and I think it is overheating cause it is hot out anyway, and after 30 mins of hard use it cuts out. What can I do?

------------------
Looks like I am going to have to carjack my CL-S
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2001 | 03:56 PM
  #2  
Woodsdaddy's Avatar
Everybody Wang Chung
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 914
Likes: 0
From: Austin, TX
That is very strange that it cuts out. I have the same amp running my 12's. Are you using it at less than four ohms mono? Even if you are I would imagine it could handle that. What kind of 12 is it? I don't think it would be able to push a HCCA or a stroker or anything of that nature.

------------------
97 2.2 Cl
H&R sport springs
Clear signals
Pioneer P8000 cd player 4 12" Kicker Comps
Old school punch 100
Orion XTR400
Focal Polyglass 165V
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2001 | 05:00 PM
  #3  
nootch's Avatar
Thread Starter
Number 37
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,122
Likes: 0
From: Scottsdale AZ
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Woodsdaddy:
That is very strange that it cuts out. I have the same amp running my 12's. Are you using it at less than four ohms mono? Even if you are I would imagine it could handle that. What kind of 12 is it? I don't think it would be able to push a HCCA or a stroker or anything of that nature.

</font>
It is a solo-baric. I have had the same amp on that sub for like 3 years, and the problem comes and goes. I think it may just be the heat.



------------------
Looks like I am going to have to carjack my CL-S
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2001 | 08:51 PM
  #4  
Driven's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
I think it's the heat too. Every amp that I've owned that's over a couple of years old begins to choke in this Texas heat. I'd try installing a fan on it.

------------------
'01 CL-S Black/Parchment
Spoiler and NAV.
Infinity Kappa 6.5" comps.
Kappa 2-way 6x9s
10" Kicker Solobaric sub.
Kicker IX405D 5-channel amp.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2001 | 09:20 PM
  #5  
Woodsdaddy's Avatar
Everybody Wang Chung
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 914
Likes: 0
From: Austin, TX
I'm glad it isn't that hot here, good luck!

------------------
97 2.2 Cl
H&R sport springs
Clear signals
Pioneer P8000 cd player 4 12" Kicker Comps
Old school punch 100
Orion XTR400
Focal Polyglass 165V
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2001 | 11:07 AM
  #6  
nootch's Avatar
Thread Starter
Number 37
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,122
Likes: 0
From: Scottsdale AZ
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Driven:
I think it's the heat too. Every amp that I've owned that's over a couple of years old begins to choke in this Texas heat. I'd try installing a fan on it.

</font>
Do you know what those run?



------------------
Looks like I am going to have to carjack my CL-S
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2001 | 12:18 PM
  #7  
Driven's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
I think you can get a fan from radio shack (like for computers) and those are pretty cheap. Of course, you'll need a relay to make it turn on and off. The expense is more in making a custom mount for it.

------------------
'01 CL-S Black/Parchment
Spoiler and NAV.
Infinity Kappa 6.5" comps.
Kappa 2-way 6x9s
10" Kicker Solobaric sub.
Kicker IX405D 5-channel amp.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2001 | 01:19 PM
  #8  
NOLACLS's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 3,166
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans, LA,USA
How would you hook up a cooling fan from radio shack? I was wonder about that. Where do you get the power and make it come on when the amp turns on???

------------------
2001 CL-S White/Tan
non navi
* Spoiler
* Weel Locks
* Polarg m-6
* Red AEM CAI
## Selling 97 and up prelude i/h/e for 600.00. E-mail me##
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2001 | 01:45 PM
  #9  
spiroh's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,373
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL USA
Connect it to the same block that the amp is getting its power. Look at computer stores. Those fans should work.

Spiro

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NOLACLS:
How would you hook up a cooling fan from radio shack? I was wonder about that. Where do you get the power and make it come on when the amp turns on???

</font>


------------------
Black/Black 2001 CL-S
Random Technology Cat
RED AEM CAI
APEXi V-AFC
Polarg M6 Roadlamps
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2001 | 01:26 AM
  #10  
Driven's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Apparently there's a relay that you connect to the fan and amplifier. This connects the fan to the remote turn-on at the amp and the 12V+ power. The fan only comes on when you turn on the radio. I got this info from my co-worker who competes in those IASCA competitions.

------------------
'01 CL-S Black/Parchment
Spoiler and NAV.
Infinity Kappa 6.5" comps.
Kappa 2-way 6x9s
10" Kicker Solobaric sub.
Kicker IX405D 5-channel amp.
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2001 | 01:47 AM
  #11  
SilverKnight's Avatar
Retired. Not available.
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 2,828
Likes: 2
From: Houston, TX
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Driven:
Apparently there's a relay that you connect to the fan and amplifier. This connects the fan to the remote turn-on at the amp and the 12V+ power. The fan only comes on when you turn on the radio. I got this info from my co-worker who competes in those IASCA competitions.

</font>
That's correct. You can get a relay (fog light relay) from Autozone or any auto part store. You can get a fan from radio shack or rip it out of your blown power supply from the PC or a case fan. I install a fan on my old system and it worked great. However, there is one thing you need to worry about. Noise. Noise could be created by the fan motor.


------------------
'01 Silver CL-S
Painted Mud Guard
Silver Aluminum Pedals
Customed self-installed sound system with 5-channel Kenwood Amp and 10in. Pioneer sub. in Customized box.
(modified) CAI.
Meshed grill.
My Pride
DOM 01/2001 #31432
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2001 | 02:23 AM
  #12  
Driven's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Noise? No, not noise!!

After my recent install, if I have to deal with anything that causes noise again I'm going to take a hammer and smash it.

------------------
'01 CL-S Black/Parchment
Spoiler and NAV.
Infinity Kappa 6.5" comps.
Kappa 2-way 6x9s
10" Kicker Solobaric sub.
Kicker IX405D 5-channel amp.
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2001 | 07:53 AM
  #13  
SLVRTSUNAMI's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
From: OC n SoCal
with my previous experience with fans, I would have to say that the computer type fan s WILL givce you some noise. Especially if you hook it up to the same power source of your amp!!


Another thing to check is the power wire gauge, sometimes a thicker wire (hence more curent flow) will keep the amp happier during hard playback. Another thing to consider is a stiffening cap, they work and are worth the money, onlyh 1 farad caps are worth it. I used to run 2 225-HCCA's at one ohm mono....the wire upgrade did marvels (gave me 2db's). hope this helps


------------------
'01 silver/black
NAVI
eibach springs
35% tint all around
some lighting upgrades!
Powerstop x-drilled rotors/ red calipers
AEM silver CAI

more to come slowly, waiting for $$$ for 1.8KW stereo
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2001 | 05:21 PM
  #14  
nootch's Avatar
Thread Starter
Number 37
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,122
Likes: 0
From: Scottsdale AZ
At this point I think I will just buy a new amp and not worry about it. Too much trouble for an old amp. Thanks for all the help!!!

------------------
Looks like I am going to have to carjack my CL-S
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
4drviper
3G TL Audio, Bluetooth, Electronics & Navigation
1
Apr 23, 2025 07:13 PM
rp_guy
Member Cars for Sale
9
Jul 16, 2017 07:33 AM
InFaMouSLink
Car Parts for Sale
3
Oct 30, 2015 09:43 AM
Pegon95
3G TL Audio, Bluetooth, Electronics & Navigation
4
Sep 15, 2015 01:54 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:11 PM.