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Old 10-22-2004, 09:35 AM
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which amp do I go for???

I just got new 2 jl 10w6 and now im looking for amp that can pound this thing up .I was looking into JL500/1 mono amp but wasnt sure if it good enough and I also like either JL and Rockford gate amp..so any other amps you guy suggest for my 2 jl 10w6??.
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What is their RMS? How many ohms? DVC's?

I'm Bias to Soundstream amps. So I would pick a Soundstream over a JL or Rockford any day. Not to mention Soundstream is superior to them. Give me the info on the subs and I'll pick a good match for ya
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if those sub are 10W6v2, they are dual 4ohm. they can handle as little as 300w rms in a very large enclosure, to has much as 500 in a 0.55 cuft sealed enclosure. If you want to take advantage of having 2 subs, you will need a bunch of power. so look in the 750-1000Wrms at either 1 or 4 ohm. they currently sell factory renewed JBL 1200.1 amps, wich are 1ohm stable, and go for 200, but have a questionable quality (I mean, they sell rebuilt unit surely not for fun). the soundstream EGS900D is 290 and will push 900Wrms at 1ohm (and is 1-ohm optimized, unlike the jbl). At exactly the same price (460), you can get an Hiphonics brutus, Kicker KX1200.1 or a phoenix gold xenon (the last two are factory renewed and push 1.2Kw@1ohm, the brutus is 1kw@1ohm)
you can also consider RF T1000BD

you know, life is full of choice
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Heres the JL10w6 spec

Nominal Diameter: 10 inches (250 mm)
Continuous Power Handling: 300 Watts
Voice Coil: 2.5" diameter, 4-layer, Kapton former
Available Configurations: Dual 6 ohm
Xmax (one-way, linear): 0.47" (11.9 mm)
Sealed Enclosure Range: 0.40-0.80 cu.ft. (11.5-22.5 liters)
Ported Enclosure Range: 0.90-1.25 cu.ft. (25.5-35.5 liters)
VRC™ Technology: NO

I only gonna need amp to power this 2 sub and pound this thing up so....I am looking anything that sound quality good not over $350 US
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Originally Posted by LIGHTBEING
So I would pick a Soundstream over a JL or Rockford any day. Not to mention Soundstream is superior to them.

I assume this is your opinion only? If not, what are you baseing this on?


On that note, I would go with the JL 500/1. Awesome amps with clean power. For a less expensive amp, I have Memphis amps. I have the Memphis Belle in my TL and a MC2004 and MC500d in my Honda Pilot. Great amps for the price. Small footprints and great looks too.
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I assume this is your opinion only? If not, what are you baseing this on?
I'm basing this on my experience with all of them. I've had owned RF punch and power amps, 2 of my good friends have JL amps that I have played around with. I've also own a Soundtream Reference 700s. I really believe that they are built better and very underated. JL is overated. Way over priced.

Same reason why I would go with a Brahma(Adire) or an RE XXX instead of a W7. They are made specifically to perform and outshine. I like my car audio how I like my music....underground.

Some of the Soundstream's High end comes with a 300 amp Alternator becasue they are just Beast. Very underated, great features, great performer and beautifully designed. Here's a peak inside at what I'm getting.

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Originally Posted by LIGHTBEING
Some of the Soundstream's High end comes with a 300 amp Alternator becasue they are just Beast. Very underated, great features, great performer and beautifully designed. Here's a peak inside at what I'm getting.
300 amp Alternator???? why would an amp come with that? do you mean 300 amp fuse? and if you mean that, then maybe, but no car alternator puts that much power out.

you really are just biased because JL amps are some of the best overall - you can read that in nearly every magazine.
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300 amp Alternator???? why would an amp come with that? do you mean 300 amp fuse? and if you mean that, then maybe, but no car alternator puts that much power out.

you really are just biased because JL amps are some of the best overall - you can read that in nearly every magazine.
Ummm yes there are plenty of High Output Alternators that go even higher the 300 amps. These HO Alternators are normally used for competitions. Do a search on the web, you will find plenty of companies that make HO Alternators. Matter of fact, I most likely need one for my system. I'm gonna do the "Bid 3" upgrade for starters then see how much dimming I get after that, but I think I will need atleast a 150 amp.

And Yes, I am Bias to Soundstream, but I do have good reason for it. Soundstream is not mainstream so you won't find them in most car audio magazines but I assure you that Soundstream is Top of the Line and you pay for the actual product without all the marketing costs. I'm not taking anything away from JL and I never said they didn't produce great amps.
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lightbeing,

I think you should try out your system before upgrading your alternator. The stock TL electrical system is very strong. Many people have used high power amps driving component speakers and a pair of subs without any problems.
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Yeah, the stock Alternator is ok, like I said. I'm gonna do the big 3 first then take it from there. But I'm just about positive I will need one cuz I'm gonna be running around 2000 watts. I think the stock is 100 amp correct? Which by the numbers it can handle 1440 watts, I beleive the rule of thumb is to use around 20% of that for normal car electrical functions which is 288, so your left with 1152.
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I know about HO alternators, but you said that the amp comes with one...ya right.

and 300AMP??? not in our car. The most you can get out of our stock alternator is 190 amps...Ive already checked to thanks for the pointer.
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Originally Posted by LIGHTBEING
Soundstream is not mainstream so you won't find them in most car audio magazines

Hmmm, Soundstream is not mainstream? I beg to differ. Soundstream has been a well known and well regarded company for quite some time. They DO have adds in most car audio mags and are oftened mentioned and tested by the mags.

JL makes very good amplifiers, often regarded by most magazines as some of the best in their price range. The same also can be said about RF and Kicker, among others.
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No, Soundstream is not mainstream. They are not marketed like most car audio in the business. Go to 10 local shops in your area and see if they sell Soundstream. My guess is 1 out of 10 may carry them. Ofcourse they are tested just like every other audio equipment and they get their names in reviews because they are one of the best not because they are interested in spending the money on marketing.
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Originally Posted by LIGHTBEING
No, Soundstream is not mainstream. They are not marketed like most car audio in the business. Go to 10 local shops in your area and see if they sell Soundstream. My guess is 1 out of 10 may carry them. Ofcourse they are tested just like every other audio equipment and they get their names in reviews because they are one of the best not because they are interested in spending the money on marketing.

ok really, who cares
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Anyone who wants to be a little more original and not have a lot of the expense due to marketing

I think more people than you think care about that.
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so guyz....can you help me pick the perfect amp for my jl 2x 10w6 and enclosure dimension????
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Depends on your budget.
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My recommendation are 0,65 cuft for each sub, and 250w rms each. those subs will sound good in those enclosure volume, and will handle about that power in them before exceeding xmax.
you have two choice, find a real mono subwoofer amp that is 1.5 ohm stable (most likely to be 1ohm stable) and produce 500-600W at that load, or find a two channel amp, so each channel will produce 250-300W @ 3ohm, or a four channel amp wich a pair of them, bridged, will put out the same power. an amp like my phoenix gold XS4600 will handle a 3ohm mono load, and will put out around 300rms at tha load, x2. this is a solution but not the most affordable one. I would really pick-up a class-D amp that is 1.5 ohm stable. as long as you don't get overrated products, will will get what you pay for in term of sound quality. if you want to go cheap, the refurbished JBL600.1 is 160$ on sound domain, and will do the job
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Originally Posted by Toby_TL
I am looking anything that sound quality good not over $350 US
He said his budget already.
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Originally Posted by lookin4tl
He said his budget already.
and we already listed a bunch of amp in that budget, plus we explained how to select one himself. the perfect amp would cost 1 bucks, make 1GW of power, with 1K damping factor, and infinitly high slew rate, and sound to noise ratio, while keeping the THD+N under .00001%. the perfect enclosure would lodge in my hand, increase the efficiency by 24db at all frequencies and decuple power handling. none of them exist, so again it will me a comprise situation. "depends on your" budget mean "buy the highest quality you can afford, no matter brand name, as long as it push as much power as you need"

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thanks lookin4tl. I missed it.

I agree with Torkguy. Buy the best amp you can afford. Brand names, especially in bass amps, are not that critical. If you want a brand name, read above at the ones mentioned.
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Originally Posted by Toby_TL
so guyz....can you help me pick the perfect amp for my jl 2x 10w6 and enclosure dimension????
Sorry man, got a little of topic there. You gotta do some research. IMO, I would look for an amp that producing 800-1200 @ 1 ohm. That would make those W6's slam. I dunno, look at maybe Cadence or Crossfire. Memphis has 1000 watt amp @ 1 ohm for like under $300. Diamond Audio has a 1200 @ 1 ohm for under $500. Do some digging and reply with with you find.

The optimum performance that it listed on the jl site for those W6's is around 500 watts each.
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