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Just my opinion but the exhaust tips and those under body diffusers seem like an after thought. Reminds me of tacky modifications. I'd take that wheel gap over the obnoxious rear diffuser fins and over-sized exhaust tips.
All that's missing is one of those stick-on roof vortex generators and a tow hook for the full effect.
It's interesting, the white pre-production model and the blue rendered image has the rear diffuser looking like it's actually molded into the bumper, and just painted matte black. I actually think it looks pretty good. But the other images make it look like it's just stuck on there like the 1G aero kit. I'm really curious to see what it'll actually be. As you can probably guess, I'm not a big fan of the 1G aero kit either because the sticky-taped on look just screams cheap aftermarket.
I guess a unique bumper was too much to ask for, and instead a stick-on diffuser was all they could afford.
The cost savings better have went into the mechanicals and surpass all expectations, because God knows it did not go into the tech and feature set.
They nailed it on the concept where the rear bumper goes around the exhaust tips (sleeker exhaust tips) and the rear diffuser has less fins and looks cleaner. I'm not a fan of the glossy black exterior pieces since they will swirl up and look like crap over time. I hope they offer Carbon fiber trims which will look better and show less swirls over time. Maybe the A-spec kit will be different for the Type-s and help the overall look.
My decision to stick with the "Baby S" (aka. A-Spec) seems better and better as we get more info. The icing on the cake will be when the performance numbers finally trickle in. I'm not confident it will hang with the competition due to the weight.
Agreed 100 percent, don't forget the tranny as well.
Some bad news from the "tuner" world. Apparently the new government's EPA is cracking down on tuners holding them responsible for any adjustments that violate EPA regulations, period.
In the past, like yesterday, tuners tuned to increase cars performance & it was the owners responsibility as to how the car was used. The bailout was "For Off Road Usage Only". That took the EPA enforcement efforts to have to hit the actual car owner which was fat chance. Some states would fail the car is annual inspections but other would not. A performance friendly non-government test station could look the other way.
New EPA regs now lay the responsibility onto the tuners instead of or in addition to the users. Sure more info will come out on this. This is similar to the attempt to lay liability onto weapons manufactures if one of their weapons is used in a crime. Hey maybe Acura will be responsible if someone runs somebody over with a TLX.
Seems like more of the same. Government regulation that's near impossible to enforce. I don't really think this is bad news, just another scare tactic that won't really do much of anything.
Seems like more of the same. Government regulation that's near impossible to enforce. I don't really think this is bad news, just another scare tactic that won't really do much of anything.
Ya think. Guy who posted this on Car Talk is a big HEMI guy & a LEO IIRC. He said:
"Two very prominent tuners in the HEMI world both posted on their FB pages today that going forward they will not be disabling emissions controls even on "off-road" vehicles."
Trying to police it at the end user level is a non-runner always has been. That said not many end users have the skill or equipment to make the mods. So cutting by it off at the source ain't so hard to strangle it.
Last edited by BEAR-AvHistory; 02-02-2021 at 06:31 PM.
Ya think. Guy who posted this on Car Talk is a big HEMI guy & a LEO IIRC. He said:
"Two very prominent tuners in the HEMI world both posted on their FB pages today that going forward they will not be disabling emissions controls even on "off-road" vehicles."
Trying to police it at the end user level is a non-runner always has been. That said not many end users have the skill or equipment to make the mods. So cutting by it off at the source ain't so hard to strangle it.
Do tunes for turbo set-ups do this though? I'm not really familiar with tuning on these types of cars. I know when people run high-flow cats on high power set-ups, they'll turn the rear O2s off otherwise it will trigger a CEL. That being said, even with those I/M monitors not setting, it will still pass any emissions test during annual inspection that I know of. That is, so long as you don't have a real stickler of a mechanic doing your inspection ...
Will they be changing it so all I/M monitors must be set to pass emissions?
Important thing to remember some states use DMV test sites other outside contractors. Your results may vary but on a DMV test you are dead in many cases. Below will get you through a lot of states. Never failed a annual inspection with a BMW Turbo. My COBRA no emission control with power tune is exempt from state annual test.
OK my personal experience if I was a person who would actually modify a car. A lightly modded, Tune + FMIC BMW's would not pass NC emissions with the tune active. In the cases of Flash tunes you had to reset the car back to pure stock deleting the tune. Not hard just about 20 minutes on the hand held. With the piggy back JB4 the reset to stock required a just button push to to set back to stock. The JB4 holds a number of tunes + stock in its black box. The JB4 also auto clears those fault codes. Then another to disable the steering wheel tune control buttons so a tech could not do a quick check. Because the JB4 requires a black box you would mount it in the ECU coffin which took a short time during instillation. It was invisible to a visual check.
Now the pain in the butt part. In both cases the car needs a number of start run for a specific distance stop start cycles to clear the ready to test flags. This reset the computer so the test gear would not pickup that a tune had just been deleted. Normal plan was make the change & just do normal driving for a few days. With the flash if you have no hardware showing like down pipes you were good to go. A 335is owner never had to run them because the special performance stock BMW ECU was more boost friendly than the standard unit as long as you ran 93 or better. 93 is the standard premium in NC. DP's will not pass the NC visual.
Last edited by BEAR-AvHistory; 02-03-2021 at 03:48 AM.
Recent Type S photos. Pipes don’t look so humongous.
I think it just had to do with the lens distortion, angle and lighting. The previous pics were taken in a way that made the exhaust pipes disproportionately large.
Doubt this is actually true. Every F model has basically been a flop for Lexus. I’m sure their terrible infotainment had a lot to do with it, but I think their pricing was the main reason. If, and that’s a big if, the IS-F happens, it’ll probably be priced similar to the M3 despite being less practical (smaller, no AWD option) and beat in every conceivable performance metric by a substantial margin. “Buh Toyota’s aw weliable”. Who cares since 98.3376528% of people getting these level of cars will be leasing them, in which timeframe German cars are perfectly reliable.
I’d much prefer an IS500 where they simply add more power (V8) and maybe tweak the suspension marginally to cope with the heavier front end. Keep the cost under $60k to start and the Type-S wouldn’t even be an afterthought to me. The CT4-V Blackwing is another juicy proposition if they actually start producing them in sizable numbers to get at or possibly under sticker. As of right now, there’s likely insane mark-ups on them.
^ Good point about the CT4-V Blackwing, which starts at $59k...Type-S pricing will likely be closer to that than the CT5-V @ $48k, even though its specs will be more similar to the latter (and even then it'll still be down ~50 lb-ft torque). We'll see soon enough whether Acura has shot itself in the foot again...
The CT4-V BW, when similarly equipped to the Type-S, will likely rise to low to mid-$60k (more if you want an automatic). Still, I much prefer the styling, and the powerplant is proven. The biggest question mark is production. So, the TLX-S will still have the value proposition, but it will obviously be short on power as a compromise.
Wow those exhaust tips are massive for a factory set. Never thought I'd say this, but they almost seem too big, especially since the black diffuser makes it look like it's just hanging out there under the bumper. Hopefully it looks little more tucked in with different lighting.
Hopefully that is not the final look. They need to be notched into the rear diffuser like pretty much every car including the 3rd gen Type S. Agree, way oversized and not a good look.
I'll take mine in Modern Steel Metallic with the red leather interior please. The Type S in these latest pics looks sharp.
The blue looks great in pictures, had it in my 2018 TLX A-Spec but it shows every micro scratch. I would have opted for silver but for some stupid reason they didn't offer it in that color (black/white/silver) most popular colors. Never understood their logic on color options. Not any touchless car washes in my area so the blue, although sharp, showed so many micro scratches when clean. Last time I opt on that color for any car. Hopefully they improve their paint quality from the very easily chipped paint they have been using as of late.
Originally Posted by Mak P
Acura always look good in Black, still going with White though
Virtually no car looks bad in black. It's a tough color to maintain if you're not in a state like CA where it rarely rains. When clean you really can't beat black or white. They always look great with that caveat.
A PMC version of this down the road would be what everyone wanted in the first place. It will probably price itself out of its own segment the way things are going at Acura.
That's why the North east crew have Summer wheels and Winter wheels
Totally, for us in Quebec winter tires are mandatory from December 1 - March 15. I don't bother even brining my tires home anymore. I just leave it with my mechanic, $50 storage per season
From the recent pics, the Type-S looks pretty much polished and ready to ship. I'm surprised they still didn't announce a freakin date by now. Spring is only one month away. Being Acura, I project a "we started making em" post soon ... and then release/specs a week later, and then price a month before sale date.
Am I the only one that thinks it's an absolute Joke and smack in the face that they are Bragging about 355 HP? I have had quite a few different Acuras mostly Type s. I am 46 yrs old I am a custom tuner for Diablo And SCT... people , 355 HP AwD with a 10 speed this car will NOT put 300 hp to any wheel let alone rear ... it will be close after talking to a few people we all agree 290at the wheels on a cool crisp night .. So with that said 55k PLUS for a high 14 second car and the 0 to 60 is going to be laughable . Yes, the top end will be OK . But come on Acura you had a chance to really send a message, loose some of that useless never used Tech BS and tune it better and open it up . Wtf? 55k .this is what I waited for ? Anyone wanting the type S would at the very least like to have a low 13 second car , won't even be close . You are going to have to void the warranty with a tune and a huge IC and prob a few other goodies to punch off mid 13 second runs . Sorry it looks awesome but Acura ,you failed the REAL enthusiastic people that want power and Luxury. So, when you are making your first 740.00 car payment and some 25 year old on the highway walks you with a 35k 2018 or 19 charger skat pack .. I can't help but wonder what everyone will be thinking.. yes of course there is going to be the very few that puts it in "dynamic" mode and says hey hun feel this... meanwhile she does not even get planted in the seat .. ACURA is 2021 with the technology we have this car should be making NO LESS the 450 motor 400-410 wheels .. sad .failure .I can't believe I waited for this JOKE ..
02-02-2021, 11:11 AM
+1 on the black
