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Burning Brakes
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I like a good staged drag-race as much as the next guy, but again ... get real. These are street-cars and most are daily/weekend drivers.
You guys can't really be this obsessed with racing. I might drive my Audis a little hard sometimes, but they are $50k-$70k ... so I tend to baby-them the rest of the time.
Suzuka Master
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IIRC, the Audi had the least HP, and won a few and hardly lost by much on the rolling starts.
I like a good staged drag-race as much as the next guy, but again ... get real. These are street-cars and most are daily/weekend drivers.
You guys can't really be this obsessed with racing. I might drive my Audis a little hard sometimes, but they are $50k-$70k ... so I tend to baby-them the rest of the time.
I like a good staged drag-race as much as the next guy, but again ... get real. These are street-cars and most are daily/weekend drivers.
You guys can't really be this obsessed with racing. I might drive my Audis a little hard sometimes, but they are $50k-$70k ... so I tend to baby-them the rest of the time.
Burning Brakes
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1. Even the standard TLX is marketed as being "FAST" and a performance sedan.
2. So what fucking claim do you think the fucking piece of fucking shit Type-S is going to pull out of its fucking ass wizardly bullshit built Honda POS ass?
3. And there's no Civics making 350HP beating a Viper unless it's gutted and making that power at the wheels. Again, basic fucking physics. Power + weight will determine who wins. Unless one has an obscenely peaky powerband that is near useless. I'm so fucking done with this dumbshit fucking Honda community. Fucking done. Fucking Christ I can't fucking take it anymore.
2. So what fucking claim do you think the fucking piece of fucking shit Type-S is going to pull out of its fucking ass wizardly bullshit built Honda POS ass?
3. And there's no Civics making 350HP beating a Viper unless it's gutted and making that power at the wheels. Again, basic fucking physics. Power + weight will determine who wins. Unless one has an obscenely peaky powerband that is near useless. I'm so fucking done with this dumbshit fucking Honda community. Fucking done. Fucking Christ I can't fucking take it anymore.
2. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. My Acura salesman offered to let me test drive it ( if I let him test drive my A5 ). We'll see.
3. dude, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel about it.
Suzuka Master
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Do you have your head in the sand? Even the standard TLX is marketed as being "FAST" and a performance sedan. The Type-S even more so. This is the primary reason I chastise it every chance I get. That and the deranged fanboys hailing the thing as the second coming of Christ.
And your video was rebuked by mine. How many times do I have to repeat myself? The carwow video clearly shows the C63S and M4 walking away from the RS5 from a roll. This is literally the shit I can't fucking stand from the Honda crowd. See what you want with your narrow-minded dumbfuckery. The RS5 wins from a dig because it has AWD compared to RWD. From a roll, where traction isn't limited, motherfucking basic fucking physics and "numbers on paper" trump asinine fucking fanboyism as both the M4 and C63 walk away because ... holy fucking shit ... they both have more power on paper with the same fucking weight. The TLX-S's competition all have AWD and drivetrains built to withstand hard launches instead of SH-AWD which isn't. It's as heavy or heavier than the competition. So what fucking claim do you think the fucking piece of fucking shit Type-S is going to pull out of its fucking ass wizardly bullshit built Honda POS ass?
And there's no Civics making 350HP beating a Viper unless it's gutted and making that power at the wheels. Again, basic fucking physics. Power + weight will determine who wins. Unless one has an obscenely peaky powerband that is near useless. I'm so fucking done with this dumbshit fucking Honda community. Fucking done. Fucking Christ I can't fucking take it anymore.
And your video was rebuked by mine. How many times do I have to repeat myself? The carwow video clearly shows the C63S and M4 walking away from the RS5 from a roll. This is literally the shit I can't fucking stand from the Honda crowd. See what you want with your narrow-minded dumbfuckery. The RS5 wins from a dig because it has AWD compared to RWD. From a roll, where traction isn't limited, motherfucking basic fucking physics and "numbers on paper" trump asinine fucking fanboyism as both the M4 and C63 walk away because ... holy fucking shit ... they both have more power on paper with the same fucking weight. The TLX-S's competition all have AWD and drivetrains built to withstand hard launches instead of SH-AWD which isn't. It's as heavy or heavier than the competition. So what fucking claim do you think the fucking piece of fucking shit Type-S is going to pull out of its fucking ass wizardly bullshit built Honda POS ass?
And there's no Civics making 350HP beating a Viper unless it's gutted and making that power at the wheels. Again, basic fucking physics. Power + weight will determine who wins. Unless one has an obscenely peaky powerband that is near useless. I'm so fucking done with this dumbshit fucking Honda community. Fucking done. Fucking Christ I can't fucking take it anymore.
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/acur...t-test-review/
Go to Acura's website right now and look up the MDX. "Performance" is the overriding message. It's listed as a "premium performance SUV," performance is the first of three categories presented for further information, and an additional section on performance is directly below. It's consistent with all of Acura's messaging about the MDX, and the direction of the greater Acura brand, both of which center on "precision crafted performance."
The issue is, the MDX doesn't deliver. Not on that message, anyway.
The issue is, the MDX doesn't deliver. Not on that message, anyway.
Burning Brakes
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No offense, but you have a Q5e and an A5. Neither are performance cars by any stretch of the imagination. Performance numbers are as relevant for those cars as they are comparing the performance of a Camry to an Accord. However, the Type S, M340i, S4, C43, etc. are performance oriented cars, and as such performance metrics do matter.
I think the Q5-e (362 hp / 369 lb-ft of torque) with Kick-Down/Launch-Control could easily give a S4 or TLX-Type-S V6 a good run. We all kinda-know the Type-S is not going to be that fast.
My A5 can easily take the TLX-2.0T (and most Accords, Civics, and Camry). I never said either were high-performance, just quick.
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For a Porsche owner, you sure like to dog the Audis.
I think the Q5-e (362 hp / 369 lb-ft of torque) with Kick-Down/Launch-Control could easily give a S4 or TLX-Type-S V6 a good run. We all kinda-know the Type-S is not going to be that fast.
My A5 can easily take the TLX-2.0T (and most Accords, Civics, and Camry). I never said either were high-performance, just quick.
I think the Q5-e (362 hp / 369 lb-ft of torque) with Kick-Down/Launch-Control could easily give a S4 or TLX-Type-S V6 a good run. We all kinda-know the Type-S is not going to be that fast.
My A5 can easily take the TLX-2.0T (and most Accords, Civics, and Camry). I never said either were high-performance, just quick.
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Performance does not mean acceleration only. I have said it again and again, chassis is the highlight of this wave of new Acuras and most of the discussions here completely overlook the merit. Of course I wish the 2.0T has zero lag, and J30A is as good as B58, but for the price asked the powertrain performance is passable.
Three Wheelin'
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At least Motortrend is calling out Acura Marketing for this BS:
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/acur...t-test-review/
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/acur...t-test-review/
Burning Brakes
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2. Not gonna get into all that with you. In fact, I meant to add a smiley at the end but editing is restricted.
Not sure if you remember me, but I remember you. You helped me out a while back.
I think what we consider "performance cars" is changing. Like is it just the "best version" of a car (like RS5) ? No, not really as the S5 is about the same car. Does a V6 make it? Well, I used to have one of the best V6 Honda/Acura made in my Accord, but back then that meant it was only 240hp. 4-cylinder turbos surpass that now-days. Mated with a common 100hp electric motor, can easily give a pure-ICE vehicle a good match.
Drifting
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I want to laugh reading MT's comments. Acura must have forgotten to pay the ads. The braking/cornering numbers are testing tires more than anything as usual, and they want a 3-roe SUV to drive like a sports car basically. A-spec have unique, harder seats. Oh, and they are still living in the past where RDX brake is soggy. No true at all, MT just had a RDX that needs TSB applied. I will blame Acura for not getting their on-loan vehicle sorted out, though. Anyway, probably 50% of the content read like finding faults for the sake of finding something to complain. I am indifferent about 4G MDX, but I cannot help noticing some of the MT comments are obvious from someone who really does not like the MDX, and not consistent with other reviewers' comments.
Three Wheelin'
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Do you have your head in the sand? Even the standard TLX is marketed as being "FAST" and a performance sedan. The Type-S even more so. This is the primary reason I chastise it every chance I get. That and the deranged fanboys hailing the thing as the second coming of Christ.
And your video was rebuked by mine. How many times do I have to repeat myself? The carwow video clearly shows the C63S and M4 walking away from the RS5 from a roll. This is literally the shit I can't fucking stand from the Honda crowd. See what you want with your narrow-minded dumbfuckery. The RS5 wins from a dig because it has AWD compared to RWD. From a roll, where traction isn't limited, motherfucking basic fucking physics and "numbers on paper" trump asinine fucking fanboyism as both the M4 and C63 walk away because ... holy fucking shit ... they both have more power on paper with the same fucking weight. The TLX-S's competition all have AWD and drivetrains built to withstand hard launches instead of SH-AWD which isn't. It's as heavy or heavier than the competition. So what fucking claim do you think the fucking piece of fucking shit Type-S is going to pull out of its fucking ass wizardly bullshit built Honda POS ass?
And there's no Civics making 350HP beating a Viper unless it's gutted and making that power at the wheels. Again, basic fucking physics. Power + weight will determine who wins. Unless one has an obscenely peaky powerband that is near useless. I'm so fucking done with this dumbshit fucking Honda community. Fucking done. Fucking Christ I can't fucking take it anymore.
And your video was rebuked by mine. How many times do I have to repeat myself? The carwow video clearly shows the C63S and M4 walking away from the RS5 from a roll. This is literally the shit I can't fucking stand from the Honda crowd. See what you want with your narrow-minded dumbfuckery. The RS5 wins from a dig because it has AWD compared to RWD. From a roll, where traction isn't limited, motherfucking basic fucking physics and "numbers on paper" trump asinine fucking fanboyism as both the M4 and C63 walk away because ... holy fucking shit ... they both have more power on paper with the same fucking weight. The TLX-S's competition all have AWD and drivetrains built to withstand hard launches instead of SH-AWD which isn't. It's as heavy or heavier than the competition. So what fucking claim do you think the fucking piece of fucking shit Type-S is going to pull out of its fucking ass wizardly bullshit built Honda POS ass?
And there's no Civics making 350HP beating a Viper unless it's gutted and making that power at the wheels. Again, basic fucking physics. Power + weight will determine who wins. Unless one has an obscenely peaky powerband that is near useless. I'm so fucking done with this dumbshit fucking Honda community. Fucking done. Fucking Christ I can't fucking take it anymore.
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At least Motortrend is calling out Acura Marketing for this BS:
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/acur...t-test-review/
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/acur...t-test-review/
What does this even mean?
Racer
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Love it! And a lot of these guys have never driven and will never be able to afford the cars they're talking about.
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I won't lie the MDX looks better in type S than the TLX.
Drifting
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At least the TLX Type S has the logo in the front grille and enough of the A-Spec exterior to set it apart head on.
Suzuka Master
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I'm actually not a fan of the MDX Type S. If it was parked in a supermarket lot next to non-Type S MDX's, you wouldn't be able to tell them apart until you saw the rear and the quad pipes.
At least the TLX Type S has the logo in the front grille and enough of the A-Spec exterior to set it apart head on.
At least the TLX Type S has the logo in the front grille and enough of the A-Spec exterior to set it apart head on.
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I'm actually not a fan of the MDX Type S. If it was parked in a supermarket lot next to non-Type S MDX's, you wouldn't be able to tell them apart until you saw the rear and the quad pipes.
At least the TLX Type S has the logo in the front grille and enough of the A-Spec exterior to set it apart head on.
At least the TLX Type S has the logo in the front grille and enough of the A-Spec exterior to set it apart head on.
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I've been following that list on the Accord boards. I'm glad to see Joel back on top! He was dethroned a few weeks ago by Alex. What a fun competition these guys are having.
And who would think a mere Honda Accord would command this much modding attention?
And who would think a mere Honda Accord would command this much modding attention?
There's actually a list on the 10th gen Accord page with the top 10 Accords hitting the 12 second range. So yes. There are plenty of them that are beating 392s. And that's only people who are part of the page or even reporting their numbers. Joel Felix is hitting 11s. Seen vids of guys hanging with or beating Scat Packs that aren't on this list as well.
Drifting
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I was watching the Type S video and scrutinizing the MDX Type S as soon as it appeared. In the vid shot where it's looking at you head on, it looks like a run of the mill MDX.
Compare the vid cap below vs an A-Spec. Where's the difference?
Compare the vid cap below vs an A-Spec. Where's the difference?
Accords in general have always been top choice for people to modify. It's different now since the Accords come with a turbo engine.
Instructor
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The one in the video is just an A-Spec model. The video was taken from the reveal video of the MDX back in December. The photo I posted has a little glimpse of the Type S front end. It’s going to be more aggressive then the A-Spec. Reason why they haven’t shown off the front end is because they are holding off till the Reveal in June for it.
Drifting
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The one in the video is just an A-Spec model. The video was taken from the reveal video of the MDX back in December. The photo I posted has a little glimpse of the Type S front end. It’s going to be more aggressive then the A-Spec. Reason why they haven’t shown off the front end is because they are holding off till the Reveal in June for it.
Instructor
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I get you. It’s more like they just want to show the rear for now. They’ve only shown the front of the Type S in the video of the prototype.
Suzuka Master
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So far IIRC the quickest SUV at Lightning Laps Lamborghini Urus @ 66th overall, $218,009 Base MSRP. Its has SOUL in spades
Think you will find that most if not all of they guys unhappy with Acura "performance luxury car" advertising for every car in their lineup are former owners who have moved up. So far nothing they have put up justifies the performance hype.
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Burning Brakes
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Do you have your head in the sand? Even the standard TLX is marketed as being "FAST" and a performance sedan. The Type-S even more so. This is the primary reason I chastise it every chance I get. That and the deranged fanboys hailing the thing as the second coming of Christ.
And your video was rebuked by mine. How many times do I have to repeat myself? The carwow video clearly shows the C63S and M4 walking away from the RS5 from a roll. This is literally the shit I can't fucking stand from the Honda crowd. See what you want with your narrow-minded dumbfuckery. The RS5 wins from a dig because it has AWD compared to RWD. From a roll, where traction isn't limited, motherfucking basic fucking physics and "numbers on paper" trump asinine fucking fanboyism as both the M4 and C63 walk away because ... holy fucking shit ... they both have more power on paper with the same fucking weight. The TLX-S's competition all have AWD and drivetrains built to withstand hard launches instead of SH-AWD which isn't. It's as heavy or heavier than the competition. So what fucking claim do you think the fucking piece of fucking shit Type-S is going to pull out of its fucking ass wizardly bullshit built Honda POS ass?
And there's no Civics making 350HP beating a Viper unless it's gutted and making that power at the wheels. Again, basic fucking physics. Power + weight will determine who wins. Unless one has an obscenely peaky powerband that is near useless. I'm so fucking done with this dumbshit fucking Honda community. Fucking done. Fucking Christ I can't fucking take it anymore.
And your video was rebuked by mine. How many times do I have to repeat myself? The carwow video clearly shows the C63S and M4 walking away from the RS5 from a roll. This is literally the shit I can't fucking stand from the Honda crowd. See what you want with your narrow-minded dumbfuckery. The RS5 wins from a dig because it has AWD compared to RWD. From a roll, where traction isn't limited, motherfucking basic fucking physics and "numbers on paper" trump asinine fucking fanboyism as both the M4 and C63 walk away because ... holy fucking shit ... they both have more power on paper with the same fucking weight. The TLX-S's competition all have AWD and drivetrains built to withstand hard launches instead of SH-AWD which isn't. It's as heavy or heavier than the competition. So what fucking claim do you think the fucking piece of fucking shit Type-S is going to pull out of its fucking ass wizardly bullshit built Honda POS ass?
And there's no Civics making 350HP beating a Viper unless it's gutted and making that power at the wheels. Again, basic fucking physics. Power + weight will determine who wins. Unless one has an obscenely peaky powerband that is near useless. I'm so fucking done with this dumbshit fucking Honda community. Fucking done. Fucking Christ I can't fucking take it anymore.
Suzuka Master
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You need to relax & enjoy the site. Think of it as Comedy Central for cars. If it was not for the Honda Community we would have been deprived of seeing the Fast & Furious Franchise. "Oh the humanity"
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Burning Brakes
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IIRC, the Audi had the least HP, and won a few and hardly lost by much on the rolling starts.
I like a good staged drag-race as much as the next guy, but again ... get real. These are street-cars and most are daily/weekend drivers.
You guys can't really be this obsessed with racing. I might drive my Audis a little hard sometimes, but they are $50k-$70k ... so I tend to baby-them the rest of the time.
I like a good staged drag-race as much as the next guy, but again ... get real. These are street-cars and most are daily/weekend drivers.
You guys can't really be this obsessed with racing. I might drive my Audis a little hard sometimes, but they are $50k-$70k ... so I tend to baby-them the rest of the time.
Agreed. So many complain about the power. People aren't going to be racing from light to light every day.
People should be more concerned about daily drivability. Not if the thing can beat every car on the road. If I spend $50k on a car, I'm driving it every day. So my comfort as well how sporty it is comes into play.
Burning Brakes
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Do you have your head in the sand? Even the standard TLX is marketed as being "FAST" and a performance sedan. The Type-S even more so. This is the primary reason I chastise it every chance I get. That and the deranged fanboys hailing the thing as the second coming of Christ.
And your video was rebuked by mine. How many times do I have to repeat myself? The carwow video clearly shows the C63S and M4 walking away from the RS5 from a roll. This is literally the shit I can't fucking stand from the Honda crowd. See what you want with your narrow-minded dumbfuckery. The RS5 wins from a dig because it has AWD compared to RWD. From a roll, where traction isn't limited, motherfucking basic fucking physics and "numbers on paper" trump asinine fucking fanboyism as both the M4 and C63 walk away because ... holy fucking shit ... they both have more power on paper with the same fucking weight. The TLX-S's competition all have AWD and drivetrains built to withstand hard launches instead of SH-AWD which isn't. It's as heavy or heavier than the competition. So what fucking claim do you think the fucking piece of fucking shit Type-S is going to pull out of its fucking ass wizardly bullshit built Honda POS ass?
And there's no Civics making 350HP beating a Viper unless it's gutted and making that power at the wheels. Again, basic fucking physics. Power + weight will determine who wins. Unless one has an obscenely peaky powerband that is near useless. I'm so fucking done with this dumbshit fucking Honda community. Fucking done. Fucking Christ I can't fucking take it anymore.
And your video was rebuked by mine. How many times do I have to repeat myself? The carwow video clearly shows the C63S and M4 walking away from the RS5 from a roll. This is literally the shit I can't fucking stand from the Honda crowd. See what you want with your narrow-minded dumbfuckery. The RS5 wins from a dig because it has AWD compared to RWD. From a roll, where traction isn't limited, motherfucking basic fucking physics and "numbers on paper" trump asinine fucking fanboyism as both the M4 and C63 walk away because ... holy fucking shit ... they both have more power on paper with the same fucking weight. The TLX-S's competition all have AWD and drivetrains built to withstand hard launches instead of SH-AWD which isn't. It's as heavy or heavier than the competition. So what fucking claim do you think the fucking piece of fucking shit Type-S is going to pull out of its fucking ass wizardly bullshit built Honda POS ass?
And there's no Civics making 350HP beating a Viper unless it's gutted and making that power at the wheels. Again, basic fucking physics. Power + weight will determine who wins. Unless one has an obscenely peaky powerband that is near useless. I'm so fucking done with this dumbshit fucking Honda community. Fucking done. Fucking Christ I can't fucking take it anymore.
So angry....Lol
woosa...
Who is actually doing the math and calculations of physics to see if the car they're buying can beat another? You're looking way too deep into this man. It's ok. Take a break. Your brain hurts. Lol
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Agreed. So many complain about the power. People aren't going to be racing from light to light every day.
People should be more concerned about daily drivability. Not if the thing can beat every car on the road. If I spend $50k on a car, I'm driving it every day. So my comfort as well how sporty it is comes into play.
People should be more concerned about daily drivability. Not if the thing can beat every car on the road. If I spend $50k on a car, I'm driving it every day. So my comfort as well how sporty it is comes into play.
But people have the right to complain on power for a special performance model, like the Type-S imo.