0-60 & 1/4 mile times
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I indicated a couple of months ago that the A-Spec FWD model I test drove generally felt as quick (0-60) as my 19 3.5 PAWS, in which I recently ran at 14.3 sec ET. If it's packing several hundred more pounds and yet matches the acceleration of the 3.5 PAWS then, IMHO Acura did a good enough job with the 2.0T. (The only deal breaker for me could be exterior dimensions with respect to my garage and interior dimensions with respect to occasional rear seat passengers. )
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Interesting to note MotorWeek got a 0-60 in 5.8 sec and 14.4 sec quarter-mile. That's quicker than what C&D got (5.9 sec), slower than A-on-A (5.7 sec), but definitely makes MT's 7.0 seconds look like an outlier.
MotorWeek also said it was the quickest Acura sedan they've tested, although I went back to their other reviews and see the only TLX they track tested was the automatic 2.4L. They reviewed the V6 G1 TLX and 3G TL Type S but didn't test 0-60.
MotorWeek also said it was the quickest Acura sedan they've tested, although I went back to their other reviews and see the only TLX they track tested was the automatic 2.4L. They reviewed the V6 G1 TLX and 3G TL Type S but didn't test 0-60.
people measuring the 0-60 by looking at YouTube video's and indexing the frames
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Regardless, now that it's established the TLX 2.0T does 0-60 in under 6 seconds, the next question is whether the TLX Type S can do it under 5 seconds?
I say ~4.7 seconds.
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The hardware can with no trouble, it will be up to HONDA how much of it they want to use.
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My Maxima was definitely slightly faster than the TLX, but yeah the 5.7--5.9 sounds about right. I was going to get the Burger Tuning JB4 kit for it, but with all the issues and it needing repairs still, I haven't bothered. I haven't even gotten it tinted or ceramic coated yet. I keep pushing it off bc of the issues. It sucks lol.
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That is the TLX-S's challenge if its their intention to play in that arena, not just as longer car mid 4 second car.
BTW Mazda is upgrading the 6 series line. Longitudinal Inline 3L? 6 Cylinder DOHC Turbo with standard RWD. Interesting thing. MB has moved back to the inline 6 which its naturally smoother than the V6.
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Realistically, I expect the TLX-S to post 0-60 times about a second quicker than the TLX 2.0T. I don't really expect it to 'dethrone' the faster cars in this segment, with Acura attempting to make up for it in other areas.
...and I'm fully prepared to watch (and sort of look forward to) the outrage in the forum once the first performance tests are reported.
...and I'm fully prepared to watch (and sort of look forward to) the outrage in the forum once the first performance tests are reported.
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Realistically, I expect the TLX-S to post 0-60 times about a second quicker than the TLX 2.0T. I don't really expect it to 'dethrone' the faster cars in this segment, with Acura attempting to make up for it in other areas.
...and I'm fully prepared to watch (and sort of look forward to) the outrage in the forum once the first performance tests are reported.
...and I'm fully prepared to watch (and sort of look forward to) the outrage in the forum once the first performance tests are reported.
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We've all submitted to the fact that the Type-S isn't even going to be a contender to the S4, C43 AMG or the M340i. The issue lies with the fact that it will likely be in line with the lesser models of these respective vehicles. The 330i runs 0-60 in 5.2s and does the 1/4 in 13.9s @ 100MPH. Honestly, if I were to predict what the TLX-S is going to do, these numbers would be just about where I'd put it, maybe a tenth or two faster, but not any more. The A4 45TFSI actually runs 4.8s and 13.5s @ 102MPH, so, likely faster. The Type-S is going to be a dog from the factory, but hopefully, aftermarket tuners can open it up to make some good power reliably. But, if people start eating diffs or transfer cases with more power, I'll probably just say "fuggit" and go with a Charger Hellcat during the horsepower deals they run. It just sucks that I'll have to cut all the sleeves off my shirts and start eyeballing my cousin if I do that ...
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C&D said this:
"Challenger SRT Redeye Widebody we tested roared to 60 mph in 3.6 seconds and completed the quarter-mile in 11.8 seconds at 125 mph. We've driven several Hellcats and—as expected—never had trouble tapping into the endless power supply. However, launching the unruly beast straight and true is an exercise in extreme car control."
Take the NITTO's off & what do you put on them that can hold traction on the street? Think one of the other big engine Dodges with less power would be a better car if you want to use it as a driver not a dragster. Would also save you from having to marry your cousin & you can wear a regular T shirt.
FWIW I swapped the Drag radials for NITTO DOT legal Road Course 315 tires giving up some more of the wet traction to gain dry traction. Car has no roof so for me its a good trade off. Might not be suitable for a high use drag car but might, might be a street driven solution for a big engine Dodge as long as its not an every day car.
Living in NASCAR land see a number of them on the road to the beach. We usually flow with the quick traffic around 85mph passing quite a few Hellcats & Demons running about 10-15MPH slower in the curb lane. Don't know if its the gearing, gas mileage, tire wear, (did I mention on a 2250lb car the NITTOS are history in about 8,000 miles of street driving) but its more common then I would have expected.
NITTO 315 Drag Radial 7,800 miles @ 22PSI . Tiles are a foot square to give size comparison.
NITTO Road Course Fresh set. 275F - 315R
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So I have here a comparison of my old 2018 Acura TLX A-spec fwd and my new 2021 TLX A-spec fwd. They ran identical ET with the 2018 having 1 more mph trap speed.
2018
https://youtu.be/9G7mW4ekFKs
2021
https://youtu.be/TMA4B0TUwS0
2018
https://youtu.be/9G7mW4ekFKs
2021
https://youtu.be/TMA4B0TUwS0
Thanks!
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Very consistent between the cars & what I would expect except was just surprised the 60Ft times are that high. A sub 2 second 60ft to have good 1/4 mile times. A 2 second 60ft would cut the quarter mile to just over 14 seconds.
Jeff did you lose any traction coming off the shoulder, did you power brake or all of the above? When I do my Mexican test runs I launch from the bottom on a straight on ramp to keep the tires clean.
FWIW the trap speed & 1/4 mile times are very close to my 2004 TL 6MT. Difference in ET was the 60ft on the 2004 was quicker. Never got it into the 13's always 14.2 or 14.3. & never broke 100mph 99.4 was the best.
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Best leave it in Auto unless you "know" what RPM to shift at. That takes more info than Dragy can give unless you make a lot of runs with different shift points or have some Dyno runs so you can see what the power curve looks like. Sport or will give you firmer shifts & can help it it does not break the tires loose on 1/2 - 3/4. I had some cars I short shifted & later versions I let do their own thing as the software was improved. A lot of software lets cars just run to a percentage of red line & shifts, this can be past the power curve. One of mine was a 7000 auto shift on a 7200 reline in all modes. When actually raced 6100 was the optimum shift point. Next version of the same car raised that to 6500. The Z4 likes to run to 7000.
Very consistent between the cars & what I would expect except was just surprised the 60Ft times are that high. A sub 2 second 60ft to have good 1/4 mile times. A 2 second 60ft would cut the quarter mile to just over 14 seconds.
Jeff did you lose any traction coming off the shoulder, did you power brake or all of the above? When I do my Mexican test runs I launch from the bottom on a straight on ramp to keep the tires clean.
FWIW the trap speed & 1/4 mile times are very close to my 2004 TL 6MT. Difference in ET was the 60ft on the 2004 was quicker. Never got it into the 13's always 14.2 or 14.3. & never broke 100mph 99.4 was the best.
Very consistent between the cars & what I would expect except was just surprised the 60Ft times are that high. A sub 2 second 60ft to have good 1/4 mile times. A 2 second 60ft would cut the quarter mile to just over 14 seconds.
Jeff did you lose any traction coming off the shoulder, did you power brake or all of the above? When I do my Mexican test runs I launch from the bottom on a straight on ramp to keep the tires clean.
FWIW the trap speed & 1/4 mile times are very close to my 2004 TL 6MT. Difference in ET was the 60ft on the 2004 was quicker. Never got it into the 13's always 14.2 or 14.3. & never broke 100mph 99.4 was the best.
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That sounds in line with my most recent track run but, with a ‘street launch’ (no brake torquing, with measured throttle application on the last yellow).
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That sounds in line with my most recent track run but, with a ‘street launch’ (no brake torquing, with measured throttle application on the last yellow).
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The TLX base-spec (SH-AWD) is only a little lighter than the current RDX, so I'd say 0-60 in 6.2s, and 1/4-mile of 15.0s.
Just enough to beat the new Honda Odyssey (but I'm not so sure about 5-60, the Odyssey's 5-60 time is 0.3s faster than the current RDX, and just 0.2s slower than the Mercedes GLE 43 AMG). So in the real world, don't be surprised if you see an Odyssey pull on the TLX 2.0T A-spec.
The TLX Type S will likely weight around 4200lbs, giving it a similar power-to-weight ratio as the BMW 540i or a Mercedes GLC 43 AMG. So I'm guessing a 0-60 of 4.6s, and 1/4-mile of 13.2s.
It's just too heavy to compete with the likes of the Audi S4 or BMW M340i, but it will be competitive with their SUV-counterparts (SQ5, X3 M40i).
Just enough to beat the new Honda Odyssey (but I'm not so sure about 5-60, the Odyssey's 5-60 time is 0.3s faster than the current RDX, and just 0.2s slower than the Mercedes GLE 43 AMG). So in the real world, don't be surprised if you see an Odyssey pull on the TLX 2.0T A-spec.
The TLX Type S will likely weight around 4200lbs, giving it a similar power-to-weight ratio as the BMW 540i or a Mercedes GLC 43 AMG. So I'm guessing a 0-60 of 4.6s, and 1/4-mile of 13.2s.
It's just too heavy to compete with the likes of the Audi S4 or BMW M340i, but it will be competitive with their SUV-counterparts (SQ5, X3 M40i).
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That's an easy promise to make, for anything to run a "low .13" it would need to be faster than the speed of sound, lmao. 🤣
MotorWeek got a 14.4 second 1/4-mile on the TLX 2.0T (linked below). Do you actually think the TLX Type S will be slower than the TLX 2.0T? 🤣🤣🤣
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I smell a troll. Someone who claims to have 9 Acuras yet only just created an account yesterday. Come on...
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That's an easy promise to make, for anything to run a "low .13" it would need to be faster than the speed of sound, lmao. 🤣
MotorWeek got a 14.4 second 1/4-mile on the TLX 2.0T (linked below). Do you actually think the TLX Type S will be slower than the TLX 2.0T? 🤣🤣🤣
https://youtu.be/0HSUVVFGfAo?t=230
MotorWeek got a 14.4 second 1/4-mile on the TLX 2.0T (linked below). Do you actually think the TLX Type S will be slower than the TLX 2.0T? 🤣🤣🤣
https://youtu.be/0HSUVVFGfAo?t=230
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did a side by side test of the M340i vs the 330i.
The M340i nailed a 0-60 in 3.89 seconds and a 1/4 mile run in 12.15
The 330i nailed a 0-60 in 5.59 seconds and a 1/4 mile run in 14.17
Granted, we are talking about two different brands with different setups. I can't see why the TLX-S won't hit 13's in the 1/4 but I don't think it will be anything less than 13's. The drive terrain will likely be to blame for the lack luster performance numbers. This is just my opinion and speculation. The honest truth is, the TLX-S will be out performed by it's competition, whatever that is.
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That's an easy promise to make, for anything to run a "low .13" it would need to be faster than the speed of sound, lmao. 🤣
MotorWeek got a 14.4 second 1/4-mile on the TLX 2.0T (linked below). Do you actually think the TLX Type S will be slower than the TLX 2.0T? 🤣🤣🤣
https://youtu.be/0HSUVVFGfAo?t=230
MotorWeek got a 14.4 second 1/4-mile on the TLX 2.0T (linked below). Do you actually think the TLX Type S will be slower than the TLX 2.0T? 🤣🤣🤣
https://youtu.be/0HSUVVFGfAo?t=230
Anyway, those are quite respectable numbers for the BASE powertrain TLX. I wonder what type of numbers the FWD version will put down.
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The FWD might fair worse due to traction issues from 0-60, however from a roll it should have a slight edge on the SH-AWD due to less weight and a bit more power to the wheels.
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I really want to get this once my car is fixed and or replaced. I think tit will make all the difference. Coming from my Maxima I can def tell it is a bit slower. With this bolt on, it in theory should surpass the Max.
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60 K will net you 0 to 60 5.3 seconds
. 1/4 mile depending where you are
. 14.50 @102 mph
It's putting less then 300 to the Ground with AWD and a Sloppy Non performance 10 speed .. top end will be nice.. but it's gonna be a complete Joke when it comes to 0 to 60 and quarter mile times for 60k .
. 1/4 mile depending where you are
. 14.50 @102 mph
It's putting less then 300 to the Ground with AWD and a Sloppy Non performance 10 speed .. top end will be nice.. but it's gonna be a complete Joke when it comes to 0 to 60 and quarter mile times for 60k .
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Posted this in the other thread:
Into the WAG game Type : 0-60 - 4.4 seconds (roll out). 1/4 mile 13.5 @ 104mph.
Might be a little low on the MPH. Reasoning. With 355bhp advertised vs 320bhp advertised. My 2011 335is coupe pure stock could run anything from 13.00 to 13.40. terminal speed was 108 to 110. The 335is as per BMW under count was dynoed consistently pure stock at 319/321whp.
I would think, WAG, that the Type S will not be underrated to any great extent & with a 10% BHP to WHP loss should be around 320WHP. The TLX is porker but with AWD should get off the line quicker, 335is launched in 2nd gear to maintain traction. Advantage TLX. The weight should hurt the TLX in the second half of the 1/4 mile advantage 335is.
So I think the TLX will get out of the hole quicker but get run down by the 335is somewhere around the 1/8th mile to finish first.
Into the WAG game Type : 0-60 - 4.4 seconds (roll out). 1/4 mile 13.5 @ 104mph.
Might be a little low on the MPH. Reasoning. With 355bhp advertised vs 320bhp advertised. My 2011 335is coupe pure stock could run anything from 13.00 to 13.40. terminal speed was 108 to 110. The 335is as per BMW under count was dynoed consistently pure stock at 319/321whp.
I would think, WAG, that the Type S will not be underrated to any great extent & with a 10% BHP to WHP loss should be around 320WHP. The TLX is porker but with AWD should get off the line quicker, 335is launched in 2nd gear to maintain traction. Advantage TLX. The weight should hurt the TLX in the second half of the 1/4 mile advantage 335is.
So I think the TLX will get out of the hole quicker but get run down by the 335is somewhere around the 1/8th mile to finish first.
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60 K will net you 0 to 60 5.3 seconds
. 1/4 mile depending where you are
. 14.50 @102 mph
It's putting less then 300 to the Ground with AWD and a Sloppy Non performance 10 speed .. top end will be nice.. but it's gonna be a complete Joke when it comes to 0 to 60 and quarter mile times for 60k .
. 1/4 mile depending where you are
. 14.50 @102 mph
It's putting less then 300 to the Ground with AWD and a Sloppy Non performance 10 speed .. top end will be nice.. but it's gonna be a complete Joke when it comes to 0 to 60 and quarter mile times for 60k .
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All of these gasoline cars are junk compared to Model 3P, if we follow your logic. Type-S will be as quick as its competitors on a track. If you want big number cars, move up to BMW/AMG. If you demand big numbers with impeccable handling/ride quality, fork out more $$ and buy Porsche. Acura is not meant for you.
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#510
Instead of regressing in time and removing hybrid options from its cars, maybe Acura should do like Jaguar and double down on it. It's one way to go full performance and move away from Honda. If engines are reliable, you can bet the EVs will be even more.
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That means we should also stop selling phones and laptops immediately as well.
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Speaking if ICE. In Texas the electric grid is failing with long term blackouts between electric wires on poles coming down & the Wind Turbines icing up & snow+ clouds shutting down Solar Panel generators.
The entire electric grid in the country needs an upgrade starting with generation, think atomic is the way to go before electric cars are mandated.
To many people think they have clean energy cars just because they plug it into a wall socket.
The entire electric grid in the country needs an upgrade starting with generation, think atomic is the way to go before electric cars are mandated.
To many people think they have clean energy cars just because they plug it into a wall socket.
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