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Old 08-03-2014, 12:47 PM
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TLX city MPG

Compared to the outgoing TL, the TLX has the following:

1. Direct injection
2. Less weight
3. Start-stop technology
4. 9 speed tranny instead of 6

All of this and the city mileage increases by only 1 mpg?

TL V6 FWD: 20/29/23 city/highway/combined
TLX V6 FWD: 21/34/25 city/highway/combined
Old 08-03-2014, 01:23 PM
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Not many cars have very good city MPG, tis the way it is. TLX did gain 5 MPG on the hiway.
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Old 08-03-2014, 01:52 PM
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Also, only the SHAWD has start-stop. I think they included it there just to keep the SHAWD comparable to the FWD. If they included auto start stop on the FWD we might see some better city mpg
Old 08-03-2014, 02:59 PM
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Like Stew said above, it's very hard to do better than 21 or so in the EPA's city cycle. For goodness sake, it's a high performing V6 sedan that gets 25 in the combined rating. That's pretty good for a NA, non-hybrid engine.
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If you are paying $40,000+ for the V6 models (with technology, advance or AWD packages), I don't think you'd worry about the cost of gasoline.
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^ agreed. Even a Civic will have poor MPG if you have it idling all the time. You will need to get the hybrid TLX to see a more compelling change in city MPG.

While the highway mileage looks impressive it may save some drivers < $30/year in gas. For example, a driver who does only 4.5k highway miles /per year would save <$21 year with the improved highway MPG figures (I even factored $5.00/gal gas which isn't here yet)

I say I would be more worried about maintenance/tires, insurance and other issues instead gas mileage.
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Originally Posted by enchantedsky
If you are paying $40,000+ for the V6 models (with technology, advance or AWD packages), I don't think you'd worry about the cost of gasoline.
Quoted for truth. If you can afford a TLX, fuel cost probably isnt a big concern for you.
Old 08-04-2014, 09:38 AM
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A lot the confusion here is due to diminishing returns in the way mpg is as a system vs the l/km used elsewhere in the world.
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If you can afford a TLX, fuel cost probably isnt a big concern for you.
As someone who can only afford used Acuras, unfortunately this is a bigger concern for me but 24 city for the 4cyl TLX is certainly great in a luxury car (other than something like the Lexus CT)
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Originally Posted by enchantedsky
If you are paying $40,000+ for the V6 models (with technology, advance or AWD packages), I don't think you'd worry about the cost of gasoline.
I don not fully agree. Why di I want to piss gas away, if I can get more features in a fuel economic car then I can get a better car for my total cost of ownership. Holding out the best features for V6 cars is clearly an American market thing in general where in other parts of the world the taxes on a car are driven by the displacement of the engine.Just because I can afford to spend 30% more on fuel does not mean I want to.
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Originally Posted by KeithL
I don not fully agree. Why di I want to piss gas away, if I can get more features in a fuel economic car then I can get a better car for my total cost of ownership. Holding out the best features for V6 cars is clearly an American market thing in general where in other parts of the world the taxes on a car are driven by the displacement of the engine.Just because I can afford to spend 30% more on fuel does not mean I want to.
I agree. I can afford the car, but I hate to spend more than I need to on gas. I put on around 26000 to 30000 miles per year and although the yearly cost for the gas for a couple of mpg is not a budget breaker, it still bothers me. In CT we have the highest gas tax in the country so fueling up can be extra painful.
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Originally Posted by quantum7
I agree. I can afford the car, but I hate to spend more than I need to on gas. I put on around 26000 to 30000 miles per year and although the yearly cost for the gas for a couple of mpg is not a budget breaker, it still bothers me. In CT we have the highest gas tax in the country so fueling up can be extra painful.
With that many miles per year it would bother me big time. It adds up, my A6 is averaging around 20MPG and over 9K miles I have spent over $1500 on fuel and it adds up quick. People don't really look at fuels costs because it is small amounts frequently vs. the big monthly payment. Besides I hate stopping to fill up, one reason why Acura pisses me off with their 17 gallon tanks, my last 2 cars were 20 gallon tanks and I can go close to 400+ miles on a tank even at 20-21MPG. My Acuras seems to get to maybe 300-325, so for me that is 3 more days between fill ups.
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Originally Posted by quantum7
I agree. I can afford the car, but I hate to spend more than I need to on gas. I put on around 26000 to 30000 miles per year and although the yearly cost for the gas for a couple of mpg is not a budget breaker, it still bothers me. In CT we have the highest gas tax in the country so fueling up can be extra painful.
Wow - someone that drives more than me! lol I do about 25,000 miles a year. Coming from an 09 TSX, i'm going with the 4 cylinder TLX, for the excellent fuel efficiency
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Originally Posted by KeithL
With that many miles per year it would bother me big time. It adds up, my A6 is averaging around 20MPG and over 9K miles I have spent over $1500 on fuel and it adds up quick. People don't really look at fuels costs because it is small amounts frequently vs. the big monthly payment. Besides I hate stopping to fill up, one reason why Acura pisses me off with their 17 gallon tanks, my last 2 cars were 20 gallon tanks and I can go close to 400+ miles on a tank even at 20-21MPG. My Acuras seems to get to maybe 300-325, so for me that is 3 more days between fill ups.
I already miss my 28-29 MPG average on my TSX, it did have a 18.5 gallon tank with 500 miles range. My Cadillac ATS is only averaging about 24 MPG. I agree money does grow on trees when you drive 20,000+ per year. MPG does matter in my book as well.
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I agree with everyone there is a balance on this, but I want to reiterate the importance of hiway MPG. That's the place for most gains and the TLX certainly improves.
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Without any energy recovery system, 21 city mpg is good.
I think Acura has the V6-9AT tuned for performance by default since an ECON setting is available via IDS for those wanting this.
Wonder how much ECON can improve this.
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Originally Posted by LaCostaRacer
^ agreed. Even a Civic will have poor MPG if you have it idling all the time. You will need to get the hybrid TLX to see a more compelling change in city MPG.
I'm hoping they'll release a hybrid tlx by next year.
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Originally Posted by quantum7
I agree. I can afford the car, but I hate to spend more than I need to on gas. I put on around 26000 to 30000 miles per year and although the yearly cost for the gas for a couple of mpg is not a budget breaker, it still bothers me. In CT we have the highest gas tax in the country so fueling up can be extra painful.
Im actually surprised by the ratings. I figured they might have been a little higher for the 6cyl (though with typical honda/acura im sure most will see higher than rated mpg figures) , Im not that far off of the TLX ratings with my fully built (well over 300whp) 3.7 in my 2nd gen. I average 33 on the hwy, 22 cty (depending on my foot). Oh and try putting on over 50-60k a year like me
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Originally Posted by boe_d
I'm hoping they'll release a Twin Turbo tlx by next year.
Fixed, me too.
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