Accord 18 pics released...TLX killer?
#241
I can only tell you all: I should have waited for an Accord 6MT 2.0t. I would be all over that even with the saggy butt rear. Gonna go test drive one for spits and giggles.
#242
I agree, but I just finished Car & Driver's review of the Accord Sport 2.0T (in the magazine that arrived today), and they mention it still has fairly prominent road noise. When I tested a TLX, I found it extremely quiet, and a quiet ride is a big marker of luxury. I still don't know if that's enough to keep the TLX 2.4 around, but the quiet cabin in combination with the NA V6 it might be enough to keep the FWD V6.
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#243
Same here. About 20 months in on my 16 V6 PAWS and I enjoy it as much as the day I picked it up. It just needs some stickier rubber than the OEM Bridgestones.
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#254
The new Accord dash layout outclasses the TLX by far. Love the new infotainment unit, which is getting good marks on all the reviews. The center stack especially looks much more premium. I like that the Touring has adaptive dampers and heads-up display standard. Lots of tech in this car.
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#255
The new Accord dash layout outclasses the TLX by far. Love the new infotainment unit, which is getting good marks on all the reviews. The center stack especially looks much more premium. I like that the Touring has adaptive dampers and heads-up display standard. Lots of tech in this car.
#256
29/41/34 vs 30/38/33. We'll see about real world acceleration.
The show must go on.
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#257
2018 Camry SE, 4 CYL, 0-60 7.9 seconds
1/4 mile, 16.2 90mph
Camry XSE V6 0-60 5.8seconds
2018 Accord 2.0T TOURING 0-60 5.7 seconds
1/4 mile 14.3seconds, 99.3mph
1.5T CVT 0-60 mph in 7.6 seconds,
1/4 mile 15.9 seconds at 89.3 mph
2.0 T 6 MT Sport 0-60 6.2 seconds
1/4 mile 14.8, 96.2mph
Camry is 300lb heavier.
Design wise, the camry does it for me. With the Pano roof, quad exhaust pipes, it looks way more aggressive.
But the Accord 2.0T with the man pedal, has me sold.
#258
2018 Camry SE, 4 CYL, 0-60 7.9 seconds
1/4 mile, 16.2 90mph
Camry XSE V6 0-60 5.8seconds
2018 Accord 2.0T TOURING 0-60 5.7 seconds
1/4 mile 14.3seconds, 99.3mph
1.5T CVT 0-60 mph in 7.6 seconds,
1/4 mile 15.9 seconds at 89.3 mph
2.0 T 6 MT Sport 0-60 6.2 seconds
1/4 mile 14.8, 96.2mph
Camry is 300lb heavier.
Design wise, the camry does it for me. With the Pano roof, quad exhaust pipes, it looks way more aggressive.
But the Accord 2.0T with the man pedal, has me sold.
1/4 mile, 16.2 90mph
Camry XSE V6 0-60 5.8seconds
2018 Accord 2.0T TOURING 0-60 5.7 seconds
1/4 mile 14.3seconds, 99.3mph
1.5T CVT 0-60 mph in 7.6 seconds,
1/4 mile 15.9 seconds at 89.3 mph
2.0 T 6 MT Sport 0-60 6.2 seconds
1/4 mile 14.8, 96.2mph
Camry is 300lb heavier.
Design wise, the camry does it for me. With the Pano roof, quad exhaust pipes, it looks way more aggressive.
But the Accord 2.0T with the man pedal, has me sold.
But... 0-60mph is not real world acceleration to me, 5-60 is.
#259
I like the new Accord 2.0T with the manual transmission. But they need to make leather available with the manual transmission. I really hate Honda for pick and choose their combos. Let consumers choose, even if special order from factory. This has been a complain for the last 10-15 years.
On a side note, I saw a new 2018 Camry XLE the other day in white and man, that car has the premium look like the Lexus ES. Camry and Accord are definitely better than ever.
On a side note, I saw a new 2018 Camry XLE the other day in white and man, that car has the premium look like the Lexus ES. Camry and Accord are definitely better than ever.
#260
The only complaint I have is with the 9 speed on my late build 2015. It's still somewhat quirky, after all the updates. Might need to argue to get it replaced....
#261
I'll also be interested in seeing real world mpg results. Unlike a lot of manufacturers, Hondas almost always outperform their EPA numbers. Our 9G Accord (with 6MT) is rated at 34 highway, but routinely puts up numbers from 37-42+ mpg on the highway. On the other hand, I think the real world experience with a lot of the new turbo 4s is that that they love the EPA test, but fail to deliver their gaudy mpg numbers on the street. I recently rented a new Malibu on a business trip (boy, has Chevy ruined that car). It was a 4 cylinder turbo (1.6L, I think) and was anemic, while delivering really poor fuel mileage. It never returned an average in a week's worth of driving (including a lot of freeway miles in New Mexico) over 27 mpg. Our Accord gets over 27 mpg on a short trip to the grocery store.
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#264
Here’s a good demo of the heads-up display on the Touring trim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXNU1svfQXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXNU1svfQXw
#266
I need to buy my wife a van so if I could get 2 cars out of the deal, that would be great.
#267
I'm the same way. I'm tempted to not sell my Accord and just wait for the 18 to come out, just to see. I know the owner at a local dealer, so I always get a good deal on Honda's.
I need to buy my wife a van so if I could get 2 cars out of the deal, that would be great.
I need to buy my wife a van so if I could get 2 cars out of the deal, that would be great.
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new 2018 2.0T6MT
game over
#269
I submit from some angles it looks okay - from others it makes me pine for a Chevy Malibu!
#271
It's funny - I've watched about 10 reviews of the Accord over the past few days while riding the stationary bike and I think half of them have said something to the effect of "With regards to the exterior stylling - uh - it will have to grow on you..."
I submit from some angles it looks okay - from others it makes me pine for a Chevy Malibu!
I submit from some angles it looks okay - from others it makes me pine for a Chevy Malibu!
#275
The real disappointment for me was they were marketing it as an all new bold design etc etc - and they pull the tarp off to reveal the Chevy Malibu!!
#276
Depending on the specs of the 19s they come with, I'd keep those. Best wheels, other than the Accord Sport/Touring, wheels I've seen on the Accord.
#278
The MT with the 2.0T sounds very appealing. I wish that they kept the same rims on the Sport....loved those. The interior looks great, esp the head unit. The rear is not my favorite but it is OK. Sounds like the torque is always available. Waiting for this to arrive in November, and then the new RDX in the spring.
#279
2.0 is kind of a sweet spot for 4 cylinder engines. You will seldom see one over 2.4 as the pistons start to be big. Its not hard for a good engine company to get 325HP out of a 2T as long as the engine has been designed as a turbo to start. The MB-CLA has a 2.0T rated at 355HP.
HONDA has done well with small displacement racing turbos & most likely has built a few high power 2.0T's for testing.
A while back some big brain guys did a number of simulations & came up with 500cc per cylinder as being the ideal displacement for a 4.
HONDA has done well with small displacement racing turbos & most likely has built a few high power 2.0T's for testing.
A while back some big brain guys did a number of simulations & came up with 500cc per cylinder as being the ideal displacement for a 4.
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