2015 Acura TLX - Success or Fail?
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I'm fine with the hidden tailpipes, but I think many in the lux market are not. Here's hoping they do a quick change on that for the 2016 model year.
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^^ I don't see that happening on all the TLX's as this is now their corporate image (MDX, ILX, RDX, RLX and TLX)....The only tail pipe we'll see could be on a Type-S version of their cars. Why can't Acura do something similar to Lexus by having a sport version from the factory (Like the F sport) which is just a few esthetic changes and maybe driveability tweaks here and there.
It could do SO MUCH for the brand and the enthusiasts that want sprinkles on their vanilla cone and are willing to pay for these damn sprinkles.
It could do SO MUCH for the brand and the enthusiasts that want sprinkles on their vanilla cone and are willing to pay for these damn sprinkles.
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Because spring is a key selling season leading into end of model year sales. Mid winter sales usually need an extra boost with better rates. If the rates effect sales they will come down. Lot depends on what they perceive as their real competition rates are doing.
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MB sets the bar high, +15% for the first quarter2015. C class is carrying a lot of the load.
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2015 YTD sales for TLX: 25,702+2931 = 28,633*
Approximately the total 2015 sales will be 55,000-60,000 units. I think in this competitive market, aggressive interest rates and dealers amazing lease terms. TLX is doing pretty well. I don't think TLX, Q50 or IS can sell BMW's numbers.
*US+Canada
Approximately the total 2015 sales will be 55,000-60,000 units. I think in this competitive market, aggressive interest rates and dealers amazing lease terms. TLX is doing pretty well. I don't think TLX, Q50 or IS can sell BMW's numbers.
*US+Canada
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Is that sales of the 2015 model from last August? If so I'd say it was not a complete failure but not a success either.
If that is sales from January to present, I'd say it was a success provided they sold at least 20,000 last year as well.
Considering competitors are selling about 50,000 to 100,000 of their 2015 model and that this really should represent sales of the ILX and TLX together they'd need at least 55,000 in sales of the 2015 models (including last year) to be remotely successful IMHO. Ferrari's sales model doesn't require a high volume but Toyota, BMW, etc. do.
Fanboys will of course say there is no competitor or this (ANY) car isn't in the same category so it isn't an apples to apples comparison. I'd say realistic people will consider the BMW 3 series, the Lexus ES and IS series and the Infiniti Q the BMW and even the Honda Accord and Toyota Avalon as competitors. Some are less expensive and some are more but they are all competitors. I wouldn't consider 1985 Yugo a competitor but the others do compete. Fanboys will say the economy or a tsunami or the stars are to blame but those don't seem to impact the competitors.
If that is sales from January to present, I'd say it was a success provided they sold at least 20,000 last year as well.
Considering competitors are selling about 50,000 to 100,000 of their 2015 model and that this really should represent sales of the ILX and TLX together they'd need at least 55,000 in sales of the 2015 models (including last year) to be remotely successful IMHO. Ferrari's sales model doesn't require a high volume but Toyota, BMW, etc. do.
Fanboys will of course say there is no competitor or this (ANY) car isn't in the same category so it isn't an apples to apples comparison. I'd say realistic people will consider the BMW 3 series, the Lexus ES and IS series and the Infiniti Q the BMW and even the Honda Accord and Toyota Avalon as competitors. Some are less expensive and some are more but they are all competitors. I wouldn't consider 1985 Yugo a competitor but the others do compete. Fanboys will say the economy or a tsunami or the stars are to blame but those don't seem to impact the competitors.
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Is that sales of the 2015 model from last August? If so I'd say it was not a complete failure but not a success either.
If that is sales from January to present, I'd say it was a success provided they sold at least 20,000 last year as well.
Considering competitors are selling about 50,000 to 100,000 of their 2015 model and that this really should represent sales of the ILX and TLX together they'd need at least 55,000 in sales of the 2015 models (including last year) to be remotely successful IMHO. Ferrari's sales model doesn't require a high volume but Toyota, BMW, etc. do.
Fanboys will of course say there is no competitor or this (ANY) car isn't in the same category so it isn't an apples to apples comparison. I'd say realistic people will consider the BMW 3 series, the Lexus ES and IS series and the Infiniti Q the BMW and even the Honda Accord and Toyota Avalon as competitors. Some are less expensive and some are more but they are all competitors. I wouldn't consider 1985 Yugo a competitor but the others do compete. Fanboys will say the economy or a tsunami or the stars are to blame but those don't seem to impact the competitors.
If that is sales from January to present, I'd say it was a success provided they sold at least 20,000 last year as well.
Considering competitors are selling about 50,000 to 100,000 of their 2015 model and that this really should represent sales of the ILX and TLX together they'd need at least 55,000 in sales of the 2015 models (including last year) to be remotely successful IMHO. Ferrari's sales model doesn't require a high volume but Toyota, BMW, etc. do.
Fanboys will of course say there is no competitor or this (ANY) car isn't in the same category so it isn't an apples to apples comparison. I'd say realistic people will consider the BMW 3 series, the Lexus ES and IS series and the Infiniti Q the BMW and even the Honda Accord and Toyota Avalon as competitors. Some are less expensive and some are more but they are all competitors. I wouldn't consider 1985 Yugo a competitor but the others do compete. Fanboys will say the economy or a tsunami or the stars are to blame but those don't seem to impact the competitors.
Jan 2015 to July 2015. YTD!
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Think 2015 US sales will be about 44,000 if they can average 4,000 a month for the rest of the year. The 2016's in the market should help getting any model year holdouts.
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Agreed...as I mentioned earlier in this market selling 50K units is not bad at all. If Acura adds a Type S, I am sure the sales will go even higher. Not by 1000s of units but 300-500 units/month.
They need a car with different suspensions, tires, engine and few extras here an there. Back in 2004, their Tups S was very successful.
They need a car with different suspensions, tires, engine and few extras here an there. Back in 2004, their Tups S was very successful.
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