Do I really need TPMS for winter rim's?
11-10-2010, 06:04 PM
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Do I really need TPMS for winter rim's?
Was wondering if it's really necessary to have tpms on my winter rim's. I drive the sh-awd 2010 and the dealership says it's very important because track control wont work...can anyone tell me why I should invest an other 250$ total for TPMS and if their any consequence?
11-10-2010, 11:12 PM
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I am not familiar with the traction control issue and don't really buy it. The only thing that would drive me crazy would be the warning orange light staying on the dash.
I've seen tpms on the bay for less than $100 for all 4. You just have to keep checking but they do come up.
I've seen tpms on the bay for less than $100 for all 4. You just have to keep checking but they do come up.
11-11-2010, 10:57 AM
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Drifting
Yea, the traction control thing sounds like BS, but I wouldn't drive without them. First, you'll get an alert and always have an orange light on your dash (would drive me nuts), and then also, you'll need to keep a close eye on your tire pressure. For $100, I personally don't think the savings are enough for the downsides.
11-11-2010, 11:00 AM
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I did not order them when I got my winter tires & wheels. Last winter was the first winter and had no issues with the car.
Yes the light is a pain, but I can live with it.
And I don't see how it has anything to do with the traction control.
Yes the light is a pain, but I can live with it.
And I don't see how it has anything to do with the traction control.
11-11-2010, 11:42 AM
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TPMS does affect VSA, but not as the dealer described.
If the TPMS detects a low pressure situation (Check Tire Pressure message) or the TPMS malfunctions (Check TPMS System messge), VSA and Traction Control is turned on, and you cannot turn it off even if you press the VSA button off. This is a safety related issue with one or more tires not acting the same as the others, the logic is to ensure VSA and Traction Control are on to help prevent roll overs, etc.
This is all in the manual.
We know that driving with varying tire or wheel sizes may cause the VSA to malfunction, but a low pressure tire situation is different.
The manual cautions when replacing tires, including winter tires, make sure they are the same size (i.e., rolling diameter) and type (i.e., load rating and speed rating) as your original tires. If you install winter tires, make sure they are the same size (i.e., rolling diameter) as those that were originally supplied with your vehicle.
Parenthetically, this turning on the VSA and Traction Control is a lot better logic than the Toyotas I have owned in the past. When the check engine light came on because of you forgot to tighten the gas cap all the way, the traction control and VSA would be turned off automatically. On the other hand, short of turning those systems off manually, it was the only time you could waste your tires and lay down some rubber on the road...
If the TPMS detects a low pressure situation (Check Tire Pressure message) or the TPMS malfunctions (Check TPMS System messge), VSA and Traction Control is turned on, and you cannot turn it off even if you press the VSA button off. This is a safety related issue with one or more tires not acting the same as the others, the logic is to ensure VSA and Traction Control are on to help prevent roll overs, etc.
This is all in the manual.
We know that driving with varying tire or wheel sizes may cause the VSA to malfunction, but a low pressure tire situation is different.
The manual cautions when replacing tires, including winter tires, make sure they are the same size (i.e., rolling diameter) and type (i.e., load rating and speed rating) as your original tires. If you install winter tires, make sure they are the same size (i.e., rolling diameter) as those that were originally supplied with your vehicle.
Parenthetically, this turning on the VSA and Traction Control is a lot better logic than the Toyotas I have owned in the past. When the check engine light came on because of you forgot to tighten the gas cap all the way, the traction control and VSA would be turned off automatically. On the other hand, short of turning those systems off manually, it was the only time you could waste your tires and lay down some rubber on the road...
11-11-2010, 08:54 PM
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Very helpful guys...Following your advice, I went out an purchased 4 TPMS for Acura tl 2010 for only 95$ including shipping on ebay!!! What a bargain compare to the dealer who was charging 63$ each. They are like new coming from a demo car...I hope I don't need to have this installed and programmed at the dealer...They say they are the only one's who can do this....My local tire warehouse (FCP Wheels) says they can do it also...You guys think it's necessary to get this done at Acura?
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11-12-2010, 04:23 PM
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Just put TPMS on my SH-AWD with 17" rims and Blizzaks. Drove about 1/2 mile at 30 MPH and they automatically programed. The dash display reads like it should and the pressures change from cold and low in the morning to hotter and higher latter in the day or after driving a few miles. No programing just drive.
11-13-2010, 10:38 AM
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Very helpful guys...Following your advice, I went out an purchased 4 TPMS for Acura tl 2010 for only 95$ including shipping on ebay!!! What a bargain compare to the dealer who was charging 63$ each. They are like new coming from a demo car...I hope I don't need to have this installed and programmed at the dealer...They say they are the only one's who can do this....My local tire warehouse (FCP Wheels) says they can do it also...You guys think it's necessary to get this done at Acura?
11-13-2010, 01:34 PM
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Drifting
WOW! This is good information - thanks! As I am ordering my tires/wheels from Tire Rack now (not arriving due to the wheels not immediately available), they are charging $168 for a set of TPMS there!
Can I easily install the TPMS myself? If so, perhaps I can cancel that TPMS order there, get them much more cheaply on eBay and then have them installed locally! What do you think?
Can I easily install the TPMS myself? If so, perhaps I can cancel that TPMS order there, get them much more cheaply on eBay and then have them installed locally! What do you think?
11-13-2010, 01:36 PM
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Drifting
TPMS does affect VSA, but not as the dealer described.
The manual cautions when replacing tires, including winter tires, make sure they are the same size (i.e., rolling diameter) and type (i.e., load rating and speed rating) as your original tires. If you install winter tires, make sure they are the same size (i.e., rolling diameter) as those that were originally supplied with your vehicle.
The manual cautions when replacing tires, including winter tires, make sure they are the same size (i.e., rolling diameter) and type (i.e., load rating and speed rating) as your original tires. If you install winter tires, make sure they are the same size (i.e., rolling diameter) as those that were originally supplied with your vehicle.
11-13-2010, 03:59 PM
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Like I said, got them on ebay for 95$ and my local tire shop programs it for free if I by and install my tire and rims there...acura was charging 25$ each wheels...Wow, thanks for all the advice...You guys rock
11-13-2010, 04:58 PM
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WOW! This is good information - thanks! As I am ordering my tires/wheels from Tire Rack now (not arriving due to the wheels not immediately available), they are charging $168 for a set of TPMS there!
Can I easily install the TPMS myself? If so, perhaps I can cancel that TPMS order there, get them much more cheaply on eBay and then have them installed locally! What do you think?
Can I easily install the TPMS myself? If so, perhaps I can cancel that TPMS order there, get them much more cheaply on eBay and then have them installed locally! What do you think?
11-13-2010, 05:00 PM
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I am sure they will program for free, because all it takes is to install them in the wheel and thell you to drive. MY shop (bought tires only) installed the TPMS for free, in rims I bought off Ebay. It takes about 3 minutes per wheel to install TPMS.
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