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High oil consumption is typical of European automobiles, especially Audi vehicles.

This has been since day 1.
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As fudge factors go, up to 2.5 quarts per 1,000 miles is as rich and chocolately as I've ever heard, even for high-performance M vehicles. That being said, we accumulated substantial mileage just after the oil change and haven't had to add any since."
2.5 quarts per 1000 miles... HOLY COW!

Remind me to NEVER EVER own a BMW as a daily driver (not that I was ever going to anyway).

To own a European car (sorry VW, you don't count), you need a lifestyle change, where you have to develop a personal relationship with your mechanic, much the same way your family doctor.

I'm just a working middle class guy, and I have no time for this BS, period. Too many other things going on in life; the car is one of my lower priorities.
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS View Post
High oil consumption is typical of European automobiles, especially Audi vehicles.

This has been since day 1.
This is true, I've had to add a quart every 4-5k in my 760, but nothing like these guys are reporting! I know with the F01/02 7-series, folks are going through a quart every 800 miles!

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2.5 quarts per 1000 miles... HOLY COW!

Remind me to NEVER EVER own a BMW as a daily driver (not that I was ever going to anyway).

To own a European car (sorry VW, you don't count), you need a lifestyle change, where you have to develop a personal relationship with your mechanic, much the same way your family doctor.

I'm just a working middle class guy, and I have no time for this BS, period. Too many other things going on in life; the car is one of my lower priorities.
BMW has been doing 75+ Hr repairs on 7-series because of massive oil consumption, turbo's failing, timing chain stretching, etc.

My 760 had over 55K worth of repairs from 2010-2015, not including what BMW paid for. You gotta pay to play
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Started a poll on the main 4G page to get some data on how many folks are experiencing the oil consumption issue. Here's the link to the thread. Would appreciate everyone's input.
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Congratulate me, solved the problem with oil consumption, there was 1/2 a court for 1000 miles, now 1/4 a court for 5000 milles)
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whats the secret recipe ?
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Clogged oil scraping rings and engine rinsing through oil
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Originally Posted by altair47 View Post
Clogged oil scraping rings and engine rinsing through oil
Did you find a way to fix that without an engine teardown?
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Did you find a way to fix that without an engine teardown?
Exactly!
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looks like carbon build up cleansing? did you use BG-109 or some thing??
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Originally Posted by the_razor View Post
looks like carbon build up cleansing? did you use BG-109 or some thing??
Yes, but BG-109 very weak and not effective for such a problem, I used a much more effective tool.
Russian folk method https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyl_sulfoxide

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Exclamation Finally!

After starting this thread in 2010, Acura admits 9 years later that the 3.7 L engine has oil consumption problems. Specifically, the oil control rings may become clogged with carbon deposits and restrict the ring's ability to return oil from the cylinder walls to the crankcase, resulting to excessive oil consumption.

Has anyone on this forum taken advantage of this recall (February 2019)?


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Old 03-03-2019, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by aphmd View Post
After starting this post in 2010, Acura admits 9 years later that the 3.7 L engine has oil consumption problems. Specifically, the oil control rings may become clogged with carbon deposits and restrict the ring's ability to return oil from the cylinder walls to the crankcase, resulting to excessive oil consumption.

Has anyone on this forum taken advantage of this recall (February 2019)?
I drove 15 thousand miles after washing, everything is fine, oil consumption is gone, the cheap method works. =)
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Old 03-03-2019, 11:34 AM
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Oil consumption test

I don't trust my dealer to perform an honest oil consumption test. In the past, they refused to acknowledge that my 09 TL had an oil consumption issue, and I have read the comments by other members regarding overfilling, under-reporting losses, etc. Should I take my car to another Acura dealer? Can I have this test done independently?
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Originally Posted by altair47 View Post
Yes, but BG-109 very weak and not effective for such a problem, I used a much more effective tool.
Russian folk method https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyl_sulfoxide
altair47, can you please give me directions for using DMSO?
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altair47, can you please give me directions for using DMSO?
A list of what you need:
1) 2 X DMSO Pure 99% Liquid 16 oz, I bought on Ebay
2) 13qt. cheapest 10W30 conventional oil, I bought on Walmart
3) 17qt. cheapest 5W20 syntetic cask oil
4) 5 X cheapest oil filters.
5) Forceps locking clamps

1.Warm up the engine and completely drain the old oil, and change the oil filter, fill in 6.5 quarts of oil 10w30.
2.Pinch the PCV hose using forceps locking clamps, start and after two minutes of idling fill in 16oz DMSO (be sure to heat the DMSO to 70 degrees, because its freezing temperature is 65 degrees).

3.Move the car outside and idle for one hour, it is better not to do it in the garage, because the exhaust smell is bad.
4.Drain the oil and replace the oil filter, pour 6.5 quarts of 10w30 oil and 16 ounces of warm DMSO, move the car out and set 1500rpm and wait one hour.
5.Drain the oil, change the filter, fill in 6 quarts of 5W20, give 20 minutes idle, and repeat the procedure with drain and oil filling, and changing the filter, wait another 20 minutes at idle.
6.Drain the oil, change the filter, fill in the last 5 quarts of 5W20, remove the clamps from the PCV hose and drive, the remaining vapors of DMSO will remain in the engine, so the next 50 miles on the road may be weak detonations during acceleration.
7. 100 miles after all the procedures we do the usual oil and filter change, reset the odometer, check the dipstick, and after 1000, 2000, 3000 miles check the oil level =)
P.S, I spent more than an hour to write all this instruction, a link to my auto blog https://www.drive2.ru/c/489797246875861011/ and the continuation https://www.drive2.ru/l/502853947455701060/

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In Russia, dimexide is much stronger than in the USA, but its effect is still enough to get rid of oil consumption https://www.drive2.ru/c/517671241029517735/.
I forgot the most important thing.
Be sure to work in rubber gloves!
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Originally Posted by aphmd View Post
After starting this thread in 2010, Acura admits 9 years later that the 3.7 L engine has oil consumption problems. Specifically, the oil control rings may become clogged with carbon deposits and restrict the ring's ability to return oil from the cylinder walls to the crankcase, resulting to excessive oil consumption.

Has anyone on this forum taken advantage of this recall (February 2019)?

I have experienced this issue for many years and I'm happy Acura has finally acknowledged it.
I called my dealer today and they stated they will perform a free oil consumption test at my next oil change. I expect them to fix this issue as I'm burning 1 quart at approx. every 1k miles. We'll see what happens.
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Volume to Dip Stick

Hello,

Do you guys know how much oil does the dip stick indicate? For example, if i filled to the top and it shows the bottom of the 'read' section, how much volume is that?
I'm at maybe 20- 30% fromt he bottom, and my oil counter in the ECU says 40% oil life left...

Is that something i shoudl be worried about?
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^^^^^

Please note that the actual engine oil level (inside the engine) is NOT related to the oil life percentage readout on the dash display.
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Thank you Edward, i understand that

my question is, if i filled up my oil at the beginning of the oil change (100%), is it normal for my drip stick to show 20-30% when my indicator is showing oil life at 40%? Would that be excessive?

i guess most people relate oil assumption it to km instead of oil life indicator.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "is it normal for my drip stick to show 20-30% when my indicator is showing oil life at 40%?". Oil life indicator % has nothing to do with how much oil is being used. When the oil has just been changed it should be at the top mark on the dipstick. When the oil level drops to the lower mark then the oil is 1 quart low. So however many miles you drove since the oil change is how many miles it took to use up 1 quart
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Thanks Dragfan, you had answered my question. from the top of the marker to the bottom of the marker is 1 qt.
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Originally Posted by Hymen Chu View Post
Thank you Edward, i understand that

my question is, if i filled up my oil at the beginning of the oil change (100%), is it normal for my drip stick to show 20-30% when my indicator is showing oil life at 40%? Would that be excessive?

i guess most people relate oil assumption it to km instead of oil life indicator.
Never look at the oil indicator, it only works from engine run hours. To determine the oil consumption.
1)Make sure that after the oil change, the level at the maximum mark with a hot engine. Remember the mileage after the oil change.
2)Check the dipstick after every thousand mileage (when the engine is hot) and then you can measure the level of oil consumption.
3)Always check the oil when the car is standing on a horizontally flat surface.

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Old 03-06-2019, 12:50 AM
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Agree with altair47 , it is much helpful to use the actual mileage to compare between oil consumption rate.

The oil life indicator readout depends on many other vehicle operation factors beside the actual vehicle mileage, and therefore will skew the oil consumption comparisons.
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Never look at the oil indicator, it only works from engine run hours. To determine the oil consumption.
1)Make sure that after the oil change, the level at the maximum mark with a hot engine. Remember the mileage after the oil change.
2)Check the dipstick after every thousand mileage (when the engine is hot) and then you can measure the level of oil consumption.
3)Always check the oil when the car is standing on a horizontally flat surface.
Are you sure about this? My understanding was that it's a quart between the top and bottom of the hashed section of the dipstick, not the absolute bottom.
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Yes, it's 1 quart from the top of the hashed section to the bottom of that section, not the bottom of the dipstick. Dipsticks have been that way forever.
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Originally Posted by meowmeows View Post
Are you sure about this? My understanding was that it's a quart between the top and bottom of the hashed section of the dipstick, not the absolute bottom.
After 400 miles will be doing an oil change, and send you a proof about the measurement of oil
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So I had an oil change done under this program at 113395 miles. I believe they overfilled during oil change.
995 Miles later Service advisor said its most likely under a quart and wont qualify.
Service tech ended up putting 1.2 qts of oil. I had to pay for extra oil. Service advisor started official claim with the Acura corporate.
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I am currently going through this test right now.

For those who have gone through it, after your oil level reached the lower mark of the dipstick and the technician refilled your oil to the top.

Did you have to continue the test to see how long it takes for the oil to reach the lowever mark of the dipstick?

If you did have to continue the test, how many more times did you have to do the test before they confirmed that your engine is indeed consuming too much oil.

My service advisor mentioned that this had to be done three times.
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As you service adviser correctly stated, it is 3 times.

Then they will average it out by adding up the total miles driven over those 3 tops up and divide by 3 and make a final decision.
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According to my local service department Acura now admits that anything over 1 quart per 3000 miles is excessive. After just a single visit on the oil consumption test they scheduled the repair. First appointment was to change the oil and start the test. Came back in at about 1000 miles, they determined my car consumed 1.8L of oil and they scheduled the repair.

Simple process.

I am happy about the way they finally admitted to this and are taking care of the problem. I also had the Air Bag issue and Acura gave me a rental car for a few months waiting for the parts. So, I may be unhappy that my car has this issue and that it took them so long to admit it was a problem. But, at least they are owning up to it and not trying to screw people around. I hope most everyone has the same experience. Makes me rethink my probable decision that this is my last Acura. I just don't like the current offerings or the TLX. I'm trying, but also not ready to buy a new car right now.
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Interesting, it looks like my vehicle has consumed about 1 litre of oil in a span of roughly 3,000 KMs. Based on some of the threads I am reading it looks like my vehicle may not qualify for the repairs.

Either way, I'll bring it back to the dealer to see what they say.
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It does seem that everyone's experience is different based on what dealership they're going to. But ive never heard of them scheduling the repair after just one return visit. Acuras oil consumption test work sheet clearly needs 3 litres of oil burned before a decision is made. Ive gone for an oil top up twice and am expecting to get the repair scheduled once I go back for the third time. First litre was burned in 1500km, second was in 1250km and im burning my third liter now. I asked for a copy of the sheet.


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Are you sure about this? My understanding was that it's a quart between the top and bottom of the hashed section of the dipstick, not the absolute bottom.
You are right, today I filled 4 quarts and there was a lower lane, add 1 quart and got the maximum, by the way, it drove 3200 miles, oil on the maximum lane, I don’t know why the dealer doesn’t do this flushing.


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You are right, today I filled 4 quarts and there was a lower lane, add 1 quart and got the maximum, by the way, it drove 3200 miles, oil on the maximum lane, I donít know why the dealer doesnít do this flushing.

So after Demexid treatment you still have oil consumption issues?
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So after Demexid treatment you still have oil consumption issues?
The oil consumption is completely gone, in the photo the dipstick after 3200 miles and 6 months after the last oil change

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