4G TL Speed Governor
08-23-2010, 09:12 PM
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Hey KS,
Check out this thread...The first video could be your car at Race City...
https://acurazine.com/forums/4g-tl-2009-2014-123/tl-sh-awd-track-videos-786808/
Check out this thread...The first video could be your car at Race City...
https://acurazine.com/forums/4g-tl-2009-2014-123/tl-sh-awd-track-videos-786808/
I promise to take my car to the Race City.Bu...but...but... then I'll really want to get rid of that darn ECU speed governor.
Hes looking out for your best interest as well as everyone who reads this.
08-23-2010, 10:30 PM
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I could go out daily and do 150 safely on some of the roads around here. If i could get past the 150 limiter on my TL id do it in heart beat. Ive hit it so many times its not even funny.Some act as though they never did any thing wrong. Lets get back on topic of is there a way and not you shouldnt do it.
08-23-2010, 11:01 PM
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How about several posts back where someone said there was a user who HAS done it?
08-23-2010, 11:05 PM
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That was on a 3g right..... checking..... actually there were no specifics, no vehicle type, just wired something up lol.... not very definitive.
I guess research would be the next thing to do, or be a pioneer and figure something out, just dont make a flux capacitor.... wait..... do make a flux capacitor lol.
I guess research would be the next thing to do, or be a pioneer and figure something out, just dont make a flux capacitor.... wait..... do make a flux capacitor lol.
08-24-2010, 09:56 AM
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I could go out daily and do 150 safely on some of the roads around here. If i could get past the 150 limiter on my TL id do it in heart beat. Ive hit it so many times its not even funny.Some act as though they never did any thing wrong. Lets get back on topic of is there a way and not you shouldnt do it.
08-24-2010, 10:44 AM
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I could go out daily and do 150 safely on some of the roads around here. If i could get past the 150 limiter on my TL id do it in heart beat. Ive hit it so many times its not even funny.Some act as though they never did any thing wrong. Lets get back on topic of is there a way and not you shouldnt do it.
08-24-2010, 11:41 AM
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08-24-2010, 12:09 PM
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08-24-2010, 12:24 PM
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I'm sure with a "custom tune" on the ECU you could raise or remove the SG. Any speed shop with the software could do this.
I read somewhere that CTS owners were doing this because they were limited to 100MPH.
I read somewhere that CTS owners were doing this because they were limited to 100MPH.
08-24-2010, 12:43 PM
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After reading the Caddy threads and sifting through their back and forth name calling, I stand corrected, the SG MPH is 130 on the CTS. It also looks as though changing the SG is not that easy.
“Back when I made the statement abotu the Tech 2, I was unaware of the flash programmin modeule availabe for it. I don't hink it was availabel to the public, being proprietary technology and what not. That kiton that website might just be ble to do it. The thing is, that alot of the "reprogramming" capabilities of teh Tech 2 in the past, were thingts liek changing tires sizes to compensate for the ABS and stuff. With this "Flash" attachement, it might be possible, but i still kinda doubt it. Maybe someone should buy one and try it out. Anyone wanna lend me $4k.
As for the dealer reflashing it, you basically gotta have a freind there, who's a tech and who's also willing to take the chance that they might get fired. It would probably have to be written up as a repair for a TSB or something. Then they would have to find a way to do it, within making known exactly what was going on. Finally, it's not cheap. It's at least a couple hundred dollars to do it. After all this, it might just be easier to invest in the proper equipment (if infact it can be precured), unless of course you happen to know a guy at the dealer.” –danbuc 06-24-06 02:12 AM Cadillac Owners.com
You should read the caddy forums...holy toledo!
“Back when I made the statement abotu the Tech 2, I was unaware of the flash programmin modeule availabe for it. I don't hink it was availabel to the public, being proprietary technology and what not. That kiton that website might just be ble to do it. The thing is, that alot of the "reprogramming" capabilities of teh Tech 2 in the past, were thingts liek changing tires sizes to compensate for the ABS and stuff. With this "Flash" attachement, it might be possible, but i still kinda doubt it. Maybe someone should buy one and try it out. Anyone wanna lend me $4k.
As for the dealer reflashing it, you basically gotta have a freind there, who's a tech and who's also willing to take the chance that they might get fired. It would probably have to be written up as a repair for a TSB or something. Then they would have to find a way to do it, within making known exactly what was going on. Finally, it's not cheap. It's at least a couple hundred dollars to do it. After all this, it might just be easier to invest in the proper equipment (if infact it can be precured), unless of course you happen to know a guy at the dealer.” –danbuc 06-24-06 02:12 AM Cadillac Owners.com
You should read the caddy forums...holy toledo!
08-25-2010, 09:04 PM
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After reading the Caddy threads and sifting through their back and forth name calling, I stand corrected, the SG MPH is 130 on the CTS. It also looks as though changing the SG is not that easy.
“Back when I made the statement abotu the Tech 2, I was unaware of the flash programmin modeule availabe for it. I don't hink it was availabel to the public, being proprietary technology and what not. That kiton that website might just be ble to do it. The thing is, that alot of the "reprogramming" capabilities of teh Tech 2 in the past, were thingts liek changing tires sizes to compensate for the ABS and stuff. With this "Flash" attachement, it might be possible, but i still kinda doubt it. Maybe someone should buy one and try it out. Anyone wanna lend me $4k.
As for the dealer reflashing it, you basically gotta have a freind there, who's a tech and who's also willing to take the chance that they might get fired. It would probably have to be written up as a repair for a TSB or something. Then they would have to find a way to do it, within making known exactly what was going on. Finally, it's not cheap. It's at least a couple hundred dollars to do it. After all this, it might just be easier to invest in the proper equipment (if infact it can be precured), unless of course you happen to know a guy at the dealer.” –danbuc 06-24-06 02:12 AM Cadillac Owners.com
You should read the caddy forums...holy toledo!
“Back when I made the statement abotu the Tech 2, I was unaware of the flash programmin modeule availabe for it. I don't hink it was availabel to the public, being proprietary technology and what not. That kiton that website might just be ble to do it. The thing is, that alot of the "reprogramming" capabilities of teh Tech 2 in the past, were thingts liek changing tires sizes to compensate for the ABS and stuff. With this "Flash" attachement, it might be possible, but i still kinda doubt it. Maybe someone should buy one and try it out. Anyone wanna lend me $4k.
As for the dealer reflashing it, you basically gotta have a freind there, who's a tech and who's also willing to take the chance that they might get fired. It would probably have to be written up as a repair for a TSB or something. Then they would have to find a way to do it, within making known exactly what was going on. Finally, it's not cheap. It's at least a couple hundred dollars to do it. After all this, it might just be easier to invest in the proper equipment (if infact it can be precured), unless of course you happen to know a guy at the dealer.” –danbuc 06-24-06 02:12 AM Cadillac Owners.com
You should read the caddy forums...holy toledo!
I also have been asking around locally. Another buddy of mine lives downstairs from me... used to work for Honda, but now works for a car-mod/car parts dealer says someone at work can most likely do it for me. Should I give it a shot?
Speaking of bickering. I'm heading down to Race City next week. If I total my car on the track, I'm sending you the bill
(Obviously joking, stop hiding behind your car)
08-26-2010, 10:06 AM
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Ahh snap. I've got a contact over at the dealership, but unfortunately he's in Sales and probably doesn't have too much pull over in Service. I wonder if it has to be an Acura dealership to remove the SG? An authorized repair location?
I also have been asking around locally. Another buddy of mine lives downstairs from me... used to work for Honda, but now works for a car-mod/car parts dealer says someone at work can most likely do it for me. Should I give it a shot?
Speaking of bickering. I'm heading down to Race City next week. If I total my car on the track, I'm sending you the bill (Obviously joking, stop hiding behind your car)
I also have been asking around locally. Another buddy of mine lives downstairs from me... used to work for Honda, but now works for a car-mod/car parts dealer says someone at work can most likely do it for me. Should I give it a shot?
Speaking of bickering. I'm heading down to Race City next week. If I total my car on the track, I'm sending you the bill
(Obviously joking, stop hiding behind your car)It would seem to me that eventually someone will offer an ECU flash for the 4G TL. Lack of demand for an aftermarket solution dictates the empty hole. The model is so new and many may not want to void the warrantee. (Although, they would have to prove that you drove the car at 7,000rpm for 5min and burnt that valve in the process) You can get a Hondata reflash for the 07-08 RDX, so the 4G TL can’t be that far away. We plan on getting it, but not until our 6yr/70K BTB has expired. (45K now)
P.S. RDX sales are up 44% in July. This brought Acura total sales up for July. Sales of Honda’s, on the other hand, were down.
08-29-2010, 06:01 PM
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The only contact I have at our dealer is a very by-the-book service rep. He's a great guy and will put me in whatever loaner I want, but that is it.
It would seem to me that eventually someone will offer an ECU flash for the 4G TL. Lack of demand for an aftermarket solution dictates the empty hole. The model is so new and many may not want to void the warrantee. (Although, they would have to prove that you drove the car at 7,000rpm for 5min and burnt that valve in the process) You can get a Hondata reflash for the 07-08 RDX, so the 4G TL can’t be that far away. We plan on getting it, but not until our 6yr/70K BTB has expired. (45K now)
P.S. RDX sales are up 44% in July. This brought Acura total sales up for July. Sales of Honda’s, on the other hand, were down.
It would seem to me that eventually someone will offer an ECU flash for the 4G TL. Lack of demand for an aftermarket solution dictates the empty hole. The model is so new and many may not want to void the warrantee. (Although, they would have to prove that you drove the car at 7,000rpm for 5min and burnt that valve in the process) You can get a Hondata reflash for the 07-08 RDX, so the 4G TL can’t be that far away. We plan on getting it, but not until our 6yr/70K BTB has expired. (45K now)
P.S. RDX sales are up 44% in July. This brought Acura total sales up for July. Sales of Honda’s, on the other hand, were down.
By the way, I went to Race City a few days back before I left to Tokyo. Apparently when I asked they said they don't open up the oval/track for public use often? I'm damn sure there's a track there but there's no information available online.
08-29-2010, 07:19 PM
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From what I've heard, Acura ECU's are notoriously impossible to mess with. Although I hope that I'm wrong about the 4G TL's ECU. I know CT-Engineering is working on being able to manipulate the ECU but I don't know about any progress that they've made with it.
09-09-2010, 08:52 AM
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Marco,
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-173371.html
Check that link out. Makes me think twice about wanting to go to Race City. Potholes? Gophers running across the track? Seriously?
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-173371.html
Check that link out. Makes me think twice about wanting to go to Race City. Potholes? Gophers running across the track? Seriously?
09-09-2010, 12:12 PM
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When I want to go all out, I'll do a trackday on my bike.
That said, the speed governor worries me. The TL is not sold in Europe, more specifically Germany where you can do long stretches at 240km/hr and will occasionally get passed by faster traffic even then. They do sell the TSX as a Honda Accord, no governor but only as a 158 hp model.
You won't find speed governors on any of the European car makes because the're designed with a chassis that can handle the engine. Most german sedans don't come into their own and shine until you're doing at least 90-100km/hr ; they're essentially overengineered for North American use.
It's not that I will ever attempt to wring out the full potential of my TL, but what is Honda implying when they put speed governors on their cars ?
That said, the speed governor worries me. The TL is not sold in Europe, more specifically Germany where you can do long stretches at 240km/hr and will occasionally get passed by faster traffic even then. They do sell the TSX as a Honda Accord, no governor but only as a 158 hp model.
You won't find speed governors on any of the European car makes because the're designed with a chassis that can handle the engine. Most german sedans don't come into their own and shine until you're doing at least 90-100km/hr ; they're essentially overengineered for North American use.
It's not that I will ever attempt to wring out the full potential of my TL, but what is Honda implying when they put speed governors on their cars ?
09-11-2010, 06:32 PM
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Marco,
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-173371.html
Check that link out. Makes me think twice about wanting to go to Race City. Potholes? Gophers running across the track? Seriously?
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-173371.html
Check that link out. Makes me think twice about wanting to go to Race City. Potholes? Gophers running across the track? Seriously?
When I want to go all out, I'll do a trackday on my bike.
That said, the speed governor worries me. The TL is not sold in Europe, more specifically Germany where you can do long stretches at 240km/hr and will occasionally get passed by faster traffic even then. They do sell the TSX as a Honda Accord, no governor but only as a 158 hp model.
You won't find speed governors on any of the European car makes because the're designed with a chassis that can handle the engine. Most german sedans don't come into their own and shine until you're doing at least 90-100km/hr ; they're essentially overengineered for North American use.
It's not that I will ever attempt to wring out the full potential of my TL, but what is Honda implying when they put speed governors on their cars ?
That said, the speed governor worries me. The TL is not sold in Europe, more specifically Germany where you can do long stretches at 240km/hr and will occasionally get passed by faster traffic even then. They do sell the TSX as a Honda Accord, no governor but only as a 158 hp model.
You won't find speed governors on any of the European car makes because the're designed with a chassis that can handle the engine. Most german sedans don't come into their own and shine until you're doing at least 90-100km/hr ; they're essentially overengineered for North American use.
It's not that I will ever attempt to wring out the full potential of my TL, but what is Honda implying when they put speed governors on their cars ?
09-19-2010, 02:02 PM
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Open source...
...find an Open Source tuner and pay to have him hack into your ECU. Then both of you could possible sell tunes for our cars. Be careful though, you could easily f-up your ride if you don't know what you are doing. Give Trey Cobb a call from Cobb Tuning. He may be able to help ou or point you in the right direction.
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09-21-2010, 02:08 PM
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When I want to go all out, I'll do a trackday on my bike.
That said, the speed governor worries me. The TL is not sold in Europe, more specifically Germany where you can do long stretches at 240km/hr and will occasionally get passed by faster traffic even then. They do sell the TSX as a Honda Accord, no governor but only as a 158 hp model.
You won't find speed governors on any of the European car makes because the're designed with a chassis that can handle the engine. Most german sedans don't come into their own and shine until you're doing at least 90-100km/hr ; they're essentially overengineered for North American use.
It's not that I will ever attempt to wring out the full potential of my TL, but what is Honda implying when they put speed governors on their cars ?
That said, the speed governor worries me. The TL is not sold in Europe, more specifically Germany where you can do long stretches at 240km/hr and will occasionally get passed by faster traffic even then. They do sell the TSX as a Honda Accord, no governor but only as a 158 hp model.
You won't find speed governors on any of the European car makes because the're designed with a chassis that can handle the engine. Most german sedans don't come into their own and shine until you're doing at least 90-100km/hr ; they're essentially overengineered for North American use.
It's not that I will ever attempt to wring out the full potential of my TL, but what is Honda implying when they put speed governors on their cars ?
10-15-2010, 11:28 PM
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I have to admit something. I went out a couple weeks back to what we Calgarians call "Range Roads" (or Township Roads). They are in the middle of nowhere and are completely straight, flat, and perfect for pushing the top speed.
Here is an example of one:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...,0.090809&z=14
I had my car pinned at 215km/h (133mp/h) for at least 2 minutes. I wanted to see how the engine performed at 'factory' full load... temp, RPMs on hills, and tire pressure.
My temps stayed lower than where they would on a mild summer day, my Tire Pressure wouldn't go above 255kpa (roughly 2.5bar), and the car was glued to the road. I want to stress this point to everyone who hasn't pushed the TL to the max. The car is completely glued. I've drove a few cars to 200km/h+ (in completely safe conditions) including a 2007 Mustang GT, Mazda 3, and 330i. The TL doesn't seem like it's going fast.
There is no reason whatsoever the TLs should be speed governed. My HPT tires are rated for 300km/h+. The engine has more pull, and the aerodynamics on the car are perfectly suited for higher speeds.
(Disclaimer: This is just my rant - by no means think I am one of those assholes that rides your ass on the highway and goes 40km/h over constantly. I pick my time and places. And I have a child on the way - I've got too much to loose. I've pushed the TL slowly... step by step)
Here is an example of one:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...,0.090809&z=14
I had my car pinned at 215km/h (133mp/h) for at least 2 minutes. I wanted to see how the engine performed at 'factory' full load... temp, RPMs on hills, and tire pressure.
My temps stayed lower than where they would on a mild summer day, my Tire Pressure wouldn't go above 255kpa (roughly 2.5bar), and the car was glued to the road. I want to stress this point to everyone who hasn't pushed the TL to the max. The car is completely glued. I've drove a few cars to 200km/h+ (in completely safe conditions) including a 2007 Mustang GT, Mazda 3, and 330i. The TL doesn't seem like it's going fast.
There is no reason whatsoever the TLs should be speed governed. My HPT tires are rated for 300km/h+. The engine has more pull, and the aerodynamics on the car are perfectly suited for higher speeds.
(Disclaimer: This is just my rant - by no means think I am one of those assholes that rides your ass on the highway and goes 40km/h over constantly. I pick my time and places. And I have a child on the way - I've got too much to loose. I've pushed the TL slowly... step by step)
10-16-2010, 07:34 AM
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Find an Open Source Tuner...
...who can/will hack into out ECU and be able to remove the governor and amongst more important thing PRO tune our cars with whatever mods we have!
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I opened source my old car ('05 Legacy GT)...walked away with 389whp/412wtq!
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I opened source my old car ('05 Legacy GT)...walked away with 389whp/412wtq!
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This is bs if I can get my ford focus over a 170 mph I should be able to get a TL to do it. We need to focus on getting this done!!
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