4G TL Speed Governor
08-15-2010, 07:04 PM
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4G TL Speed Governor
I was out today (on a completely open stretch of road with no cars around in the middle of the Rockies), and I decided to open my '10 TL A-Spec up.... and was completely disappointed when the governor kicked in at around 220km/h. The car felt like it was going to keep on pulling more and more, and my tires (Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's) are rated to go in excess of 300km/h.
Now... is there any way to remove the governor on the 4G TL?
Now... is there any way to remove the governor on the 4G TL?
08-15-2010, 07:21 PM
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And for my 1000th post:
It's only limited in Canadian. There's no limit in mph
It's only limited in Canadian. There's no limit in mph
08-15-2010, 09:24 PM
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08-15-2010, 09:28 PM
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Sorry man, it was a joke. There is no easy / quick fix.
08-15-2010, 11:32 PM
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Technology advances more and more everyday lol
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08-15-2010, 11:40 PM
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08-16-2010, 12:09 AM
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Yea - agree with all the above - there is a reason they don't make it possible/easy to remove the governor. Even on a track I don't think I would feel comfortable exceeding those speeds without a roll cage and proper safety equipment.
08-16-2010, 08:12 AM
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Do you plan on maxing the speedo often, or is this thread just letting us know you did?
08-16-2010, 10:56 AM
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And it's not to let everyone know I did - 220 is no feat at all.
I just find it frustrating that a Mazda 3 can reach 240... but an Acura TL can't. It's not the fact that I want to open er' up often. It's just knowing my car can - if you know what I mean.
08-17-2010, 08:36 AM
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Kooty...Find a track day for street rides in your area. If you really are driving that fast (twice the average highway cruising speed) on a road designated by a number, you are putting other peoples lives in danger.
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08-17-2010, 04:29 PM
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yeah unfortunately due to technology advancing everyday ecu are getting harder and harder to crack. 3rd gen tl's, and 2004-2011 accords have speed govenors. my ecu being a 2003 6-speed accord ecu has no speed govenor. 
08-17-2010, 05:46 PM
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op did NADA wrong...good lord big bro lives on Acurazine...
08-17-2010, 09:16 PM
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08-17-2010, 09:38 PM
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Governor is not applicable when vehicle is driven off cliff...... just make sure its high enough to reach maximum velocity...... or is it terminal velocity....... either way its a one time thing.
08-18-2010, 03:34 AM
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I'm more interested in mod chips rathers than removing the governor. Here in Hawaii I'll hit the beach before I can even open it up in any direction fuckin aye. Besides I have a motorcycle for that kind of speed. Love my baby too much to rap her to a tree or side rails. Cruise control baby cruise control
08-18-2010, 05:36 AM
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^^ if u mean ecu chips there are no chips. im not sure if anyone successfully used a f/IC on a 4th gen tl, but 3rd gen tl's and 7th gen accord can be tuned decently with the AEM f/IC.
08-19-2010, 02:19 PM
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Another old TL driver....it figures...Yes I have both...But what does that have to do with the OP "I was out today (on a completely open stretch of road with no cars around in the middle of the Rockies)"...ok never ever drive above the speed limit...just stay in the right lane/ MOVE B...GET OUT THE WAY
08-19-2010, 03:23 PM
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Another old TL driver....it figures...Yes I have both...But what does that have to do with the OP "I was out today (on a completely open stretch of road with no cars around in the middle of the Rockies)"...ok never ever drive above the speed limit...just stay in the right lane/ MOVE B...GET OUT THE WAY
08-20-2010, 01:03 PM
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Another old TL driver....it figures...Yes I have both...But what does that have to do with the OP "I was out today (on a completely open stretch of road with no cars around in the middle of the Rockies)"...ok never ever drive above the speed limit...just stay in the right lane/ MOVE B...GET OUT THE WAY
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08-22-2010, 06:58 PM
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Highway 40... just past Highwood Pass until Longview. It's a commonly known road here where Sport Bikes go to hit 300km/h easy.
On the other hand, when you are driving on a deserted stretch of highway, where you can see for miles, and no embankments where deer/wildlife can hide - I see no problem with hitting 200...250... or even 300. What makes it more dangerous than hitting those speeds on a track with other cars around you?
If you even hit 200-210km/h in the TL... you'd know it is rock solid stable. I've toyed around with the car at that speed - seeing how it handles, seeing how the car's braking is like. There's a difference with doing those speeds in a pickup truck, and a expensive import sport sedan.
I guess each to his own, eh?
Another old TL driver....it figures...Yes I have both...But what does that have to do with the OP "I was out today (on a completely open stretch of road with no cars around in the middle of the Rockies)"...ok never ever drive above the speed limit...just stay in the right lane/ MOVE B...GET OUT THE WAY
08-22-2010, 07:03 PM
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I'm more interested in mod chips rathers than removing the governor. Here in Hawaii I'll hit the beach before I can even open it up in any direction fuckin aye. Besides I have a motorcycle for that kind of speed. Love my baby too much to rap her to a tree or side rails. Cruise control baby cruise control
A rock on the road can throw your bike off course, and even worse what if you start to experience chatter at that speed? Or you get a huge wind gust that throws you in oncoming traffic?
08-22-2010, 08:11 PM
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"What makes it more dangerous than hitting those speeds on a track with other cars around you?" -kooky
Saftey, and a common agreement between everyone on the track! Lucky for me, there is almost 800 miles and a border between us.
I live close to a great track that offers street days and even a race school. The irony is SO DO YOU! It's a much better alternative to wrecking or hurting yourself, or someone else on the road. See Link:
http://www.racecity.com/index.php?op...d=17&Itemid=98
Saftey, and a common agreement between everyone on the track! Lucky for me, there is almost 800 miles and a border between us.
I live close to a great track that offers street days and even a race school. The irony is SO DO YOU! It's a much better alternative to wrecking or hurting yourself, or someone else on the road. See Link:
http://www.racecity.com/index.php?op...d=17&Itemid=98
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08-22-2010, 09:13 PM
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"What makes it more dangerous than hitting those speeds on a track with other cars around you?" -kooky
Saftey, and a common agreement between everyone on the track! Lucky for me, there is almost 800 miles and a border between us.
I live close to a great track that offers street days and even a race school. The irony is SO DO YOU! It's a much better alternative to wrecking or hurting yourself, or someone else on the road. See Link:
http://www.racecity.com/index.php?op...d=17&Itemid=98
Saftey, and a common agreement between everyone on the track! Lucky for me, there is almost 800 miles and a border between us.
I live close to a great track that offers street days and even a race school. The irony is SO DO YOU! It's a much better alternative to wrecking or hurting yourself, or someone else on the road. See Link:
http://www.racecity.com/index.php?op...d=17&Itemid=98
There's a difference between street racing and driving fast by yourself in safe conditions.
08-22-2010, 09:32 PM
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You're telling me that driving alone on a deserted highway with not a single car in sight is more dangerous then on a track... potentially driving with your friends - with the whole intent and purpose of beating them/their time?
There's a difference between street racing and driving fast by yourself in safe conditions.
There's a difference between street racing and driving fast by yourself in safe conditions.
I had written you a tort-full response about personal responsibility and so on. However, I’m editing that out because I don’t want to make this a personal attack. I’m just offering you a safe alternative, (Like I said, I’m no angel myself).
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08-23-2010, 09:46 AM
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I really honestly don't see wearing a helmet on a track making it safer than driving as the single car on a deserted highway.
08-23-2010, 09:58 AM
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A track has a clean smooth road to drive on to ensure that you are driving in a safe condition.
A track is an enclosed course to prevent wild animals or debris from crossing your path.
BTW, a helmet will sure as hell protect you in the event of a crash. Have you seen what a head does when it hits the side glass or windshield? If not, Ill tell you that it doesnt do to well.
Have you seen what happens when you blow a tire at speeds above 100mph caused by a rock on the road, uneven pavement, potholes...... I guarantee you wont find those things on a track.
Have you seen what happens to a car when you hit a coyote at speeds above 100mph? Not only is your car fucked, but your initial reaction is going to be to swerve or brake, either of which could throw you into an uncontrollable situation.
Do you need more????
08-23-2010, 10:21 AM
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A track always has an ambulance/fire team on hand in the event of a fire or crash.
A track has a clean smooth road to drive on to ensure that you are driving in a safe condition.
A track is an enclosed course to prevent wild animals or debris from crossing your path.
BTW, a helmet will sure as hell protect you in the event of a crash. Have you seen what a head does when it hits the side glass or windshield? If not, Ill tell you that it doesnt do to well.
Have you seen what happens when you blow a tire at speeds above 100mph caused by a rock on the road, uneven pavement, potholes...... I guarantee you wont find those things on a track.
Have you seen what happens to a car when you hit a coyote at speeds above 100mph? Not only is your car fucked, but your initial reaction is going to be to swerve or brake, either of which could throw you into an uncontrollable situation.
Do you need more????
A track has a clean smooth road to drive on to ensure that you are driving in a safe condition.
A track is an enclosed course to prevent wild animals or debris from crossing your path.
BTW, a helmet will sure as hell protect you in the event of a crash. Have you seen what a head does when it hits the side glass or windshield? If not, Ill tell you that it doesnt do to well.
Have you seen what happens when you blow a tire at speeds above 100mph caused by a rock on the road, uneven pavement, potholes...... I guarantee you wont find those things on a track.
Have you seen what happens to a car when you hit a coyote at speeds above 100mph? Not only is your car fucked, but your initial reaction is going to be to swerve or brake, either of which could throw you into an uncontrollable situation.
Do you need more????
- Once you get into the open, neither myself nor anyone I know has ever seen a animal on the road. If you take a look at this picture you'd understand that you would be able to spot one VERY early as well.
The whole point I'm trying to make here - is 'public road' doesn't always equate to 'dangerous'. There are times and places where going 10km/h above the speed limit is suicide (mid-winter going 30km/h below is suicide on the highway). I absolutely wholeheartedly agree that in most situations the track is the best place to do it. But there are places - albeit very, very few - which allow for safe high-speed driving off-track.
Speaking of track - I've always wondered if insurance coverers incidents on the track? It keeps me from pushing my car too much most of the time. Anyone comment on this?
08-23-2010, 10:45 AM
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Well, you should really watch for flying fish from that pond 
Actaully, that road looks better than a lot of tracks that I have seen
The main benefit of the track is the on site emergency response. That road looks like it would take an EMT an hour to find you lol.
Actaully, that road looks better than a lot of tracks that I have seen
The main benefit of the track is the on site emergency response. That road looks like it would take an EMT an hour to find you lol.
08-23-2010, 11:09 AM
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- Regarding the roads - the road I push the speed barrier on is closed for over half the year during winter months, and it's not a trucking route so the road conditions are absolutely amazing. I'm not the only one that goes out there for this reason.
- Once you get into the open, neither myself nor anyone I know has ever seen a animal on the road. If you take a look at this picture you'd understand that you would be able to spot one VERY early as well.
The whole point I'm trying to make here - is 'public road' doesn't always equate to 'dangerous'. There are times and places where going 10km/h above the speed limit is suicide (mid-winter going 30km/h below is suicide on the highway). I absolutely wholeheartedly agree that in most situations the track is the best place to do it. But there are places - albeit very, very few - which allow for safe high-speed driving off-track.
Speaking of track - I've always wondered if insurance coverers incidents on the track? It keeps me from pushing my car too much most of the time. Anyone comment on this?
- Once you get into the open, neither myself nor anyone I know has ever seen a animal on the road. If you take a look at this picture you'd understand that you would be able to spot one VERY early as well.
The whole point I'm trying to make here - is 'public road' doesn't always equate to 'dangerous'. There are times and places where going 10km/h above the speed limit is suicide (mid-winter going 30km/h below is suicide on the highway). I absolutely wholeheartedly agree that in most situations the track is the best place to do it. But there are places - albeit very, very few - which allow for safe high-speed driving off-track.
Speaking of track - I've always wondered if insurance coverers incidents on the track? It keeps me from pushing my car too much most of the time. Anyone comment on this?
Your a good canidate for a BBK. See this thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/4g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-295/aftermarket-bbks-big-brake-kits-766621/
Yes, track time is not covered by your car insurance. I know a guy who wrecked his 911 at PIR and State Farm would not cover him even after he denied being at the track. Unfortunatly for him they sent a claim adjuster out in the field to (PIR) that documented wrecked vehicles.
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08-23-2010, 11:33 AM
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OK, fine, that is a better road then my first 130MPH run. It still doesn't make it right, and there is another car in the pic.
Your a good canidate for a BBK. See this thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=766621
Yes, track time is not covered by your car insurance. I know a guy who wrecked his 911 at PIR and State Farm would not cover him even after he denied being at the track. Unfortunatly for him they sent a claim adjuster out in the field to (PIR) that documented wrecked vehicles.
Your a good canidate for a BBK. See this thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=766621
Yes, track time is not covered by your car insurance. I know a guy who wrecked his 911 at PIR and State Farm would not cover him even after he denied being at the track. Unfortunatly for him they sent a claim adjuster out in the field to (PIR) that documented wrecked vehicles.
And in that picture situation I wouldn't push it... not even with a car in the car distance. I've seen too many idiots here locally who pull out to pass without seeing if there's a car in front and/or with no sense of depth perception whatsoever.
Ouch. He must have been hating his luck. I guess a minor fender bender would be alright but not a wreck. Well I'm going to keep on driving on the cautious/safer side while at track.
I've put my name down on the BBK wishlist. I'd go out and purchase a Brembo BBK in a heartbeat if they were avaliable.
08-23-2010, 05:02 PM
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No, it absolutely doesn't make it 'legal' or right. But possibly safer? Yes.
And in that picture situation I wouldn't push it... not even with a car in the car distance. I've seen too many idiots here locally who pull out to pass without seeing if there's a car in front and/or with no sense of depth perception whatsoever.
Ouch. He must have been hating his luck. I guess a minor fender bender would be alright but not a wreck. Well I'm going to keep on driving on the cautious/safer side while at track.
I've put my name down on the BBK wishlist. I'd go out and purchase a Brembo BBK in a heartbeat if they were avaliable.
And in that picture situation I wouldn't push it... not even with a car in the car distance. I've seen too many idiots here locally who pull out to pass without seeing if there's a car in front and/or with no sense of depth perception whatsoever.
Ouch. He must have been hating his luck. I guess a minor fender bender would be alright but not a wreck. Well I'm going to keep on driving on the cautious/safer side while at track.
I've put my name down on the BBK wishlist. I'd go out and purchase a Brembo BBK in a heartbeat if they were avaliable.
Check out this thread...The first video could be your car at Race City...
https://acurazine.com/forums/4g-tl-2009-2014-123/tl-sh-awd-track-videos-786808/
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