Cap'n Preshoot

How much of a theft deterrent is the pushbutton start feature? I hear conflicting stories. One says you absolutely can't start the car w/o the fob, others say it's only a minor deterrent. What's the scoop?

g37guy01

Mr Marco

Pretty hard, if not impossible to start the car without a fob. And if someone is going to sit in a mall parking lot waiting for a RF code so they can steal my TL \\ Let ‘em have it.

OP, you drive a TL, not a GT3. There’s not much demand for a hot TL.

EazyRider562

what she said! ^

Edward'TLS

It's not hard nowadays to steal vehicles equipped with keyless entry systems. High tech thieves are equipped with radio receivers/repeaters that can fool keyless systems into thinking that the key fob is in close-proximity/inside the vehicles with such systems.

CNN had an article on it many months back, saying these high tech thieves were roaming around in the New York areas. It even offered a solution to this keyless system security loophole, which was to disable the key fobs from constantly transmitting, by placing them inside a metal shielding container whenever the drivers locked the doors and left their vehicles.

Edward'TLS

It doesn't matter what brand and what model of a vehicle. As long as it has a keyless entry system (all that is needed is a radio receiver/repeater), then the vehicle automatically becomes an easy target to steal for maybe joyride or as a robbery getaway car, since there is no key lock to pick and no security system to defeat.

lji

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7...TheCarTechblog

potmilkz

no one is going to jack your tl!!! get over it!

EazyRider562

My TL is better than yours imo.

potmilkz

.. your opinion doesnt matter... lol

and yes, your tl is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than mines.. im soo jealous of all your tickets your TL attracts..

EazyRider562

Well at least you understand fully where you are situated in this relationship!!!! Me being better than you and all. I think you would agree!

Enough said on this subject! lol

potmilkz

THE TROLL STRIKES AGAIN!!


if i was your friend (which wont happen in this life time or the next) id shoot myself for being associated with you..

Edward'TLS

Please don't force the mods to close down more and more threads !

EazyRider562

That's not very nice.

Mr Marco

People will steal any car. And it can be relative to your situation; In the 70's my parents had a 67 Chevy Impala conv with a 327 that got stolen for the motor. It was a financial hardship for our family at the time because my parents didn't have adequate insurance coverage. However, I have full coverage on both cars, even thought the RDX is paid off, because I can't afford to loose a car. If you are still covered by your (good) insurance, they will buy you another TL.


Top stolen vehicles in America:
Honda Civic (1995)
Honda Accord (1991)
Toyota Camry (1989)
Ford F-150 (1997)
Chevrolet C/K 1500 (1994)
Acura Integra (1994)
Dodge Ram Pickup (2004)
Nissan Sentra (1994)
Toyota Pickup (1988)
Toyota Corolla (2007)

EazyRider562

Mr Marco,

Let me first by starting off by saying that what you said is correctly incorrect about car insurance, saying "they will buy you another TL if its stolen".

I worked as an insurance adjuster for almost 10 years, so I think I know a thing or two...

Basically they will give you Actual Cash Value of the car from when it was stolen, minus your deductible.

So lets say you have a 2009 Acura TL with close to 100K miles, it's not the same as a 2009 TL with 30K on it, right?

So they see how much a 2009 Acura TL is with worth with 100K miles on it, pay you that ACV minus your deductible.

Just wanted to clarify because the way you say it is, they'll go out and buy you another 2009 TL, untrue!

Cap'n Preshoot

I disagree.

While your insurance company will try to "offer" you an ACV (Actual Cash Value) settlement as an expeditious way of disposing of your claim, nowhere is it written that you must accept it. Also your deductible is the amount for a 'comprehensive' loss. With State farm you can have separate deductibles for Comp. & Collision. My Collision deductible was $500 but my Comp. deductible was only $50 - State Farm is one of the few companies that will let you separate these.

Several years ago a Corvette I owned was stolen & stripped. They wanted the motor, transmission, wheels & tires. The INS. co. made me an ACV offer based on age & mileage of the car. I rejected their offer on the basis that (1) my policy stated "repair or replace with like kind and quality" and (2) nowhere on God's green Earth could I as a private individual "replace" the car with an identical Corvette (same age & approximate mileage) for the amount of their ACV offer. I put the burden of replacement on them & had my family atty send them a very nice letter reaffirming my resolve to obtain a proper settlement. A couple weeks later the adjuster called me to show me a car he had found at a dealership about 40 miles away. I said sure, let's take a ride & go look at it. The car in fact was a year newer than the one I lost & also had 5k fewer miles & new rubber. I asked what it was going to cost them. The adj. was under no obligation to tell me the number, but he did. It was $9k higher than their original settlement offer. So I asked if he'd give me a check for the higher amount and he said yes.

Moral of the story, don't be too quick to settle.

Cap'n Preshoot

Thanks! That's kind of what I thought too when I declined the sales pitch to put a LoJack system on the car. You just don't hear about TLs being stolen. At one time the HID headlights were a hot item, as are air bags and some catalytic convertors, certain aftermarket wheels, etc. but in general the car theives are not boosting TLs unless maybe it's an Sh/AWD + 6MT.... then maybe.

Secondly as mentioned in another post if someone really wants it badly enough, they're going to get it. One such method is with a flatbed tow truck. You snatch it, drag it onto the tip-bed and it's yours. In one recent car theft even the tow truck itself had been reported stolen.

Bottom line I think with pushbutton start and reasonable common sense about leaving things of value in plain site that I'm as safe as I can be.

sockpuppet

I can only assume by this comment that you believe that TL is not "worth" stealing (as opposed tyo higher end vehicles).

You might want to do yourself a favour and take a look at the list of most frequently stolen vehicles year by year. I'm pretty sure the GT3 doesn't appear.

potmilkz

what marco is saying is that the 4g tl is not in the the market of stolen vehicles.

you can probably get away with taking headlights, taillights and wheels, but that pretty much goes for any car.

again, there is no market for 4g TL parts.

thieves go for lower end models due to that it is easier, and faster to take

sockpuppet

I clearly misunderstood what was meant by GT3, then...I thought he was referring to a Porsche. My bad.

hotwilli

Thieves don't just steal cars to strip down and sell for parts. Some do it because: 1)they can or want to prove they can 2)they use it to commit crimes 3)they want to go joy riding 4)the opportunity was there etc...

Greggsg

If they really want your car, they are just going to come with a flatbed and take it. It seems that no one will stop the a tow truck, but will take notice to the suspicious character hanging out by the car