2009 Acura TL/CL Type-S-Merged Threads-All 2009 topics will be merged here
06-11-2008, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TedN
Sorry but I have to disagree again. The average Subie makes equal to or more power than the average Acura and their most powerful car beat's Acura's currently most powerful car. Plus they are really catching up in the luxury department (I test drove a 2008 STi and Legacy GT Spec B) but don't make standard all that unnecessary junk that's just going to break as soon as your warranty runs out and weigh your car down such as navigation, dual-zone climate control, CD changer, 50 thousand buttons...
And a surprising amount of Lambos are coming out AWD nowadays.
And a surprising amount of Lambos are coming out AWD nowadays.
Acura:
RL - 290hp
TL - 258hp
TL-S - 286hp
TSX - 201hp
MDX - 300hp
RDX - 240hp
Total = 1575hp / 6 models = 262.5hp on average for Acura.
Subaru:
Outback - 170hp
Outback XT - 243hp
Outback R - 245hp
Legacy - 170hp
Legacy GT - 243hp
Legacy R - 245hp
Forester - 170hp
Forester XT - 224hp
Impreza - 170hp
Impreza WRX - 224hp
Impreza STi - 305hp
Tribeca - 256hp
Total = 2665hp / 12 Models = 222.1hp on average for Subaru.
06-11-2008, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by vincethe1
on average subaru is more powerful than acura? let's see.
Acura:
RL - 290hp
TL - 258hp
TL-S - 286hp
TSX - 201hp
MDX - 300hp
RDX - 240hp
Total = 1575hp / 6 models = 262.5hp on average for Acura.
Subaru:
Outback - 170hp
Outback XT - 243hp
Outback R - 245hp
Legacy - 170hp
Legacy GT - 243hp
Legacy R - 245hp
Forester - 170hp
Forester XT - 224hp
Impreza - 170hp
Impreza WRX - 224hp
Impreza STi - 305hp
Tribeca - 256hp
Total = 2665hp / 12 Models = 222.1hp on average for Subaru.
Acura:
RL - 290hp
TL - 258hp
TL-S - 286hp
TSX - 201hp
MDX - 300hp
RDX - 240hp
Total = 1575hp / 6 models = 262.5hp on average for Acura.
Subaru:
Outback - 170hp
Outback XT - 243hp
Outback R - 245hp
Legacy - 170hp
Legacy GT - 243hp
Legacy R - 245hp
Forester - 170hp
Forester XT - 224hp
Impreza - 170hp
Impreza WRX - 224hp
Impreza STi - 305hp
Tribeca - 256hp
Total = 2665hp / 12 Models = 222.1hp on average for Subaru.
06-11-2008, 06:57 AM
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Go to Car Talk or Ramblings if you want to compare Suby's and Acuras. Thanks.
06-11-2008, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by VtecTL
....nice. TedN got ownaged.
I give I give
I wanted make a comparison chart just like that one but don't have the time to do it so I was just going from memory and I forget about the sub-200 HP cars because for me those cars don't even exist so props to you for taking the time to put together that list! 
06-11-2008, 09:44 AM
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You know, I saw one of those on the road yesterday, and I thought...if the shape is kind of like that, but with more of an acura spin, that wouldn't be too bad at all would it?
06-11-2008, 11:03 AM
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I think the new TSX is FK'N UGLY. The baby robin bird beek grill, the flat bulging fenders, YUK BIG TIME.
The new 09 TL should offer a Type-S model the first year. Waiting until 2010 isn't an option for me.
I want SH-AWD, 330HP minimum, a 6 speed manual and NOT the looks of the TSX angled grill and UGLY rear end. WTF Acura.
A turbo 3.5 liter with 330hp and 330tq, manual and AWD would sell like HOT CAKES. Go to other brand forums and read. MOST people DO WANT MORE HP.
The new 09 SH-AWD 300hp automatic might do low 6's to 60, SHIT my Civic Si is that fast. And way too slow for me. It should do 5.5 or less to compete with every other car out there.
What a shame. The 07 TL-S I had was a great car, and I thought Acura would improve it in everyway with the 09. NOT.... Just adding AWD and ruining everything else. Bigger, heavier, slower, and UGLY AS FK.
The new 09 TL should offer a Type-S model the first year. Waiting until 2010 isn't an option for me.
I want SH-AWD, 330HP minimum, a 6 speed manual and NOT the looks of the TSX angled grill and UGLY rear end. WTF Acura.
A turbo 3.5 liter with 330hp and 330tq, manual and AWD would sell like HOT CAKES. Go to other brand forums and read. MOST people DO WANT MORE HP.
The new 09 SH-AWD 300hp automatic might do low 6's to 60, SHIT my Civic Si is that fast. And way too slow for me. It should do 5.5 or less to compete with every other car out there.
What a shame. The 07 TL-S I had was a great car, and I thought Acura would improve it in everyway with the 09. NOT.... Just adding AWD and ruining everything else. Bigger, heavier, slower, and UGLY AS FK.
06-11-2008, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by YoungCeo
You know, I saw one of those on the road yesterday, and I thought...if the shape is kind of like that, but with more of an acura spin, that wouldn't be too bad at all would it?
It will also be about 15k cheaper - looks like an affordable alternative to the GS, potentially with better electronics.
06-11-2008, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JD TL-S
I think the new TSX is FK'N UGLY. The baby robin bird beek grill, the flat bulging fenders, YUK BIG TIME.
The new 09 TL should offer a Type-S model the first year. Waiting until 2010 isn't an option for me.
I want SH-AWD, 330HP minimum, a 6 speed manual and NOT the looks of the TSX angled grill and UGLY rear end. WTF Acura.
A turbo 3.5 liter with 330hp and 330tq, manual and AWD would sell like HOT CAKES. Go to other brand forums and read. MOST people DO WANT MORE HP.
The new 09 SH-AWD 300hp automatic might do low 6's to 60, SHIT my Civic Si is that fast. And way too slow for me. It should do 5.5 or less to compete with every other car out there.
What a shame. The 07 TL-S I had was a great car, and I thought Acura would improve it in everyway with the 09. NOT.... Just adding AWD and ruining everything else. Bigger, heavier, slower, and UGLY AS FK.
The new 09 TL should offer a Type-S model the first year. Waiting until 2010 isn't an option for me.
I want SH-AWD, 330HP minimum, a 6 speed manual and NOT the looks of the TSX angled grill and UGLY rear end. WTF Acura.
A turbo 3.5 liter with 330hp and 330tq, manual and AWD would sell like HOT CAKES. Go to other brand forums and read. MOST people DO WANT MORE HP.
The new 09 SH-AWD 300hp automatic might do low 6's to 60, SHIT my Civic Si is that fast. And way too slow for me. It should do 5.5 or less to compete with every other car out there.
What a shame. The 07 TL-S I had was a great car, and I thought Acura would improve it in everyway with the 09. NOT.... Just adding AWD and ruining everything else. Bigger, heavier, slower, and UGLY AS FK.
Wow, such strong words, but, as stated before (by myself and others), not unlike the comments made by 2G TL owners about the 3G TL once spy shots and specs on it began to surface. Keep in mind the base 3G TL only has 10 hp more than the 2G TL-S. DAMN, HOW COULD ACURA HAVE DONE THAT? NO WAY A NEW MODEL TL SHOULD HAVE ONLY 10 HP MORE THAN THE OUTGOING TL-S. AN OUTRAGE, I SAY!!My recommendation: wait for the complete unveiling of the new TL models, take it all in, test drive them. If you allow yourself to, you may end up liking it more than the current TL. At this point, only time (and your willingness to have an open mind) will tell...
P.S. For those that don't know me, I use sarcasm frequently, but sans the red text. Just a heads up.
06-11-2008, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave04TL
It will also be about 15k cheaper - looks like an affordable alternative to the GS, potentially with better electronics.
Originally Posted by levon1830
My recommendation: wait for the complete unveiling of the new TL models, take it all in, test drive them. If you allow yourself to, you may end up liking it more than the current TL. At this point, only time (and your willingness to have an open mind) will tell...
06-11-2008, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cbusAcuracls
Any mention of cylinder deactivation on the 3.5L fwd and 3.7L awd TL like the 08 3.5L Accord has?
My neighbor has the 08 Accord V6 and is only getting 24-25ish highway. I hoping we aren't seeing similiar numbers on the new TL.
My neighbor has the 08 Accord V6 and is only getting 24-25ish highway. I hoping we aren't seeing similiar numbers on the new TL.
06-12-2008, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TedN
I give I give I wanted make a comparison chart just like that one but don't have the time to do it so I was just going from memory and I forget about the sub-200 HP cars because for me those cars don't even exist so props to you for taking the time to put together that list!
I wanted make a comparison chart just like that one but don't have the time to do it so I was just going from memory and I forget about the sub-200 HP cars because for me those cars don't even exist so props to you for taking the time to put together that list!
06-12-2008, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithL
I get better than that on my 08 TL-S, I get like 27-28 on HWY. I hear the 08 V6 Accords are rather thirsty even with cylinder activation, probably the extra weight.
I don't understand why the Accord doesn't do as well...maybe its the mix of extra weight plus the 87 octane gas. I wonder if you put premium in the Accord V6 it would be similiar #'s as your TL-S.
Anyways not to get off subject but I hope the 4g TL gets decent mpg #'s.
06-12-2008, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cbusAcuracls
Thats pretty good for the 3.5L TL-S. Thats pretty much exactly what I get in my 01 CL-S too.
I don't understand why the Accord doesn't do as well...maybe its the mix of extra weight plus the 87 octane gas. I wonder if you put premium in the Accord V6 it would be similiar #'s as your TL-S.
Anyways not to get off subject but I hope the 4g TL gets decent mpg #'s.
I don't understand why the Accord doesn't do as well...maybe its the mix of extra weight plus the 87 octane gas. I wonder if you put premium in the Accord V6 it would be similiar #'s as your TL-S.
Anyways not to get off subject but I hope the 4g TL gets decent mpg #'s.
I drive 72 and get 32mpg in an 02 CL type S
I hope the 09 is awd because when I am ready to get my next acura in a few years I would like an awd drive acura that is not a RL
06-12-2008, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by YoungCeo
You know, I saw one of those on the road yesterday, and I thought...if the shape is kind of like that, but with more of an acura spin, that wouldn't be too bad at all would it?
06-13-2008, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
how fast u driving?
I drive 72 and get 32mpg in an 02 CL type S
I hope the 09 is awd because when I am ready to get my next acura in a few years I would like an awd drive acura that is not a RL
I drive 72 and get 32mpg in an 02 CL type S
I hope the 09 is awd because when I am ready to get my next acura in a few years I would like an awd drive acura that is not a RL
06-13-2008, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
how fast u driving?
I drive 72 and get 32mpg in an 02 CL type S
I hope the 09 is awd because when I am ready to get my next acura in a few years I would like an awd drive acura that is not a RL
I drive 72 and get 32mpg in an 02 CL type S
I hope the 09 is awd because when I am ready to get my next acura in a few years I would like an awd drive acura that is not a RL
06-13-2008, 03:21 PM
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MPG on the TL will most likely be worse than the 3g TL and the 08 Accord.
More weight, AWD, and a powerful engine should see to that.
More weight, AWD, and a powerful engine should see to that.
06-13-2008, 09:22 PM
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06-13-2008, 10:49 PM
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Seriously, if one more person posts that C&D bs photoshop, I will hunt you down and kill you!
Moderators-Can we at least impose a 6 month ban on any idiots that post that crap?!
Moderators-Can we at least impose a 6 month ban on any idiots that post that crap?!
06-14-2008, 08:17 AM
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Hey guys, I just was reading through last months C&D and they had a great clear no-camo photo of the new TL. Amazing, it looks exactly like the new TSX!
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Don't shoot me tktommy.
I don't think we should be too hard on people posting these links. It seems obvious that it's an altered photo of the TSX, but, in th haste to share info, people probably don't notice.
I find it more amazing that C&D would have gone to print without more closely looking at this and questioning the source of the photo. Lost some respect for C&D magazine because anyone who looks at this photo for more than 5 minutes can see its a fraud.
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Don't shoot me tktommy.
I don't think we should be too hard on people posting these links. It seems obvious that it's an altered photo of the TSX, but, in th haste to share info, people probably don't notice.
I find it more amazing that C&D would have gone to print without more closely looking at this and questioning the source of the photo. Lost some respect for C&D magazine because anyone who looks at this photo for more than 5 minutes can see its a fraud.
06-14-2008, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tktommy
Seriously, if one more person posts that C&D bs photoshop, I will hunt you down and kill you!
Moderators-Can we at least impose a 6 month ban on any idiots that post that crap?!
Moderators-Can we at least impose a 6 month ban on any idiots that post that crap?!
Let me know when you will be in Jersey.
06-14-2008, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by markjrenna
Ass wipe.
Let me know when you will be in Jersey.
Let me know when you will be in Jersey.
You the ass wipe, faggot! He's right! Do a search first. This BS has been posted a million time b4!
It gets irritating after a while.
06-14-2008, 11:02 AM
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You the ass wipe, faggot! He's right! Do a search first. This BS has been posted a million time b4!
It gets irritating after a while.
It gets irritating after a while.
06-14-2008, 11:03 AM
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Ikko and Markjrenna: 
You are both this far away from a vacation.
Stay on topic and away from personal attacks and threats. If you are joking, you better put it in red font with a smilie.
Terms like "faggot" etc. will not be tolerated. Clean it up. Thanks.
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You are both this far away from a vacation.
Stay on topic and away from personal attacks and threats. If you are joking, you better put it in red font with a smilie.
Terms like "faggot" etc. will not be tolerated. Clean it up. Thanks.
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06-18-2008, 03:40 PM
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Colors!!
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=769060
Personally, i would have preferred red leather to the umber color, but hey, it looks nice too.
Personally, i would have preferred red leather to the umber color, but hey, it looks nice too.
06-18-2008, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by shubysingh
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=769060
Personally, i would have preferred red leather to the umber color, but hey, it looks nice too.
Personally, i would have preferred red leather to the umber color, but hey, it looks nice too.
06-18-2008, 07:13 PM
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I wonder if it is (Umber) going to be similar to BMW's Terra color?? I kinda like it.
06-18-2008, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by levon1830
Sweet! Further confirmation of the coming of SH-AWD to the TL.
Another good thing is that SH-AWD is an option and doesn't come standard in the new base TL (like on the current RL).
06-19-2008, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by levon1830
Sweet! Further confirmation of the coming of SH-AWD to the TL.
06-21-2008, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JJaber06
Why are the rear brakes bigger than the front? lol
sh-awd have something to do with it???
I know just drive backwards...problem solved!!!
06-21-2008, 03:46 AM
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they're not really bigger, look about the same size...it's cuz the ebake in the back is in the drum, so the rear disks have to be a little bigger, also, it's probably not ventilated.
however, no more 4 piston brembos as i see it...
however, no more 4 piston brembos as i see it...