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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 07:44 AM
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Transmission issue?

Hey guys. For those who read my other thread about the B codes this has nothing to do with it. That issue was resovlved, a couple months back I got a LUK clutch installed, about a month after I started hearing a ticking noise coming from the transmission. I started a thread and most of you guys told me it was the throw out bearing. Well my car has been in the mechanic since yesterday and they brought my transmission down and replaced the throw out bearing in the clutch. The noise was still happening my mechanic said. He said it was something inside the transmission that it's nothing with the clutch. Also the 3rd gear problem was fixed in my car 2 months before I put in the clutch. When the Acura dealer fixed the 3rd gear issue they put the new modified tranny oil. When I installed my clutch my mechanic just put any tranny oil. I wonder if the ticking could be cause by this. I saw some videos of cars with bad throw bearings and the noise are a lot louder and obnoxious than mine is. You cant even here the ticking in my car with the windows up. And if I lay my foot on the clutch I don't even have to press it down the ticking stops. Since I'm still under warranty I was thinking of dropping the car of at the Acura dealer, what I'm
Scared of is that it has something to do with the clutch and they'll charge me for bringing the transmission down since the clutch wouldbt be covered under warranty. Everyone chime in and Lmk what you think I should do. Thanks
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 07:50 AM
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Btw this is an 06 Acura tl 6MT
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:45 PM
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Anyone please?
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 01:44 PM
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If you depress the pedal and the noise stops, it certainly isn't the throwout bearing. When the pedal is depressed is when the throwout bearing begins to move/turn and the transmission stops turning. So if you press down on the pedal and there is no noise, nothing to do with the clutch, pp, or pilot bearing, it's inside the trans. Let the pedal up, the trans input shaft starts the gears moving and noise is audible, need to pull the trans apart. At least that's my take.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by **WhItE-aNgEl**
And if I lay my foot on the clutch I don't even have to press it down the ticking stops. Thanks
Reading the thread again, just by placing your foot on the pedal and not depressing it down will not disengage the disc and stop the trans from turning, so this blows my assessment of the trans as long as the pedal isn't depressed. Only item that moves when the pedal is touched is the fork that is connected to the TO bearing. Maybe one of the PP spring fingers is sitting higher than the others, hitting the TO bearing and when some pressure is applied, the bearing begins turning. The fingers need to be all the same height when the diaphram is depressed and the cover tightened down.

I would assume the noise is RPM dependent, meaning that it changes with the RPM of the motor.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 07:34 AM
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Thanks for all your help turbonut. I really appreciate it. Heres the updated news, I got my car last night. They put new tranny oil, replaced the throw out bearing , and another bearing that's all the way behind the fly wheel. When I drove the car out of the mechanic no noise at all. I parked it at my house and let it sit for a while on, and still no noise so I was happy till this morning I go warm up my car before work go back in my house 10 mins later go back out side and there's that lil ticking noise again as I lay my foot On the clutch it goes away. I'm taking it to Acura this Friday, I just don't want them blaming it on the clutch when it's deff something else.

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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 04:47 PM
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When the noise is heard, pull up on the pedal to see if it changes. Also the bottom front (front side is foot contact side) of the pedal should be 7.52" from the floor with the mat removed.

Also, the TO bearing and pilot bearing (middle of the flywheel-simplistic explanation) will only start working when the pedal is depressed. When the pedal is at rest neither will be turning so it was certainly a waste of time.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 08:52 PM
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I wonder if they installed the PP correctly. The luk clutch still has the same self adjustment feature and if the fingers are not depressed with the special Honda tool while tightening the PP it will not seat properly. Or maybe as simple as a pedal adjustment...
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 09:04 PM
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https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/oem-clutch-replacement-tool-799072/
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 07:09 AM
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I measured it and it's at 7.52" . I tried pulling it up when it was making the sound but nothing happened. Only when I press the clutch. Is that lil hand called a PP or is that an abbreviation? I think that could be the problem.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 07:31 AM
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Best I could do, in a hurry:
http://compare.ebay.com/like/2906305...Types&var=sbar

Top-PP pressure plate or clutch cover
Bottom-clutch disc
Top Right-Throw out or clutch release bearing
Bottom Left-Clutch alignment tool and pilot bearing
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
Best I could do, in a hurry:
http://compare.ebay.com/like/2906305...Types&var=sbar

Top-PP pressure plate or clutch cover
Bottom-clutch disc
Top Right-Throw out or clutch release bearing
Bottom Left-Clutch alignment tool and pilot bearing
That's the same clutch I got same vendor.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 10:55 AM
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i wonder if the pressure plate was messed up due to improper installation (i.e. special tools mentioned above).
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
Best I could do, in a hurry:
http://compare.ebay.com/like/2906305...Types&var=sbar

Top-PP pressure plate or clutch cover
Bottom-clutch disc
Top Right-Throw out or clutch release bearing
Bottom Left-Clutch alignment tool and pilot bearing
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i wonder if the pressure plate was messed up due to improper installation (i.e. special tools mentioned above).
If the pressure plate was messed up I'm pretty sure I'd be getting different symptoms. The car runs fine, the tranny works perfect, I have no issues at all. It's that ticking noise that's annoying that sh*t out of me. This guy told me he had the same ticking on his Mitsubishi, and it's been 15 years and nothing wrong has happened to his car. I'll make a video of the ticking and what happens when I release the clutch and press it down. I'll have the video up by 6 Today
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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Quick question, is it bad to overfill the transmission? I think my mechanic put about a quart more than recommended
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 02:03 PM
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of course. just like overfilling oil in an engine there are specific tolerances for the amount of fluid inside.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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The only way you could hurt a 6mt from overfilling is if the fluid gets aerated and it's highly unlikely that could happen since the fluid is specifically designed to address this issue. You can get leaks and there's a very small chance you could run into shifting problems but it would be very hard to do permanent damage.

Did the noise start after the 3rd gear fix was done? I would highly suspect the dealer if they tore the trans apart. It's happened many times during the 3rd gear fix.

I can't remember the other threads, when does the noise occur?
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
The only way you could hurt a 6mt from overfilling is if the fluid gets aerated and it's highly unlikely that could happen since the fluid is specifically designed to address this issue. You can get leaks and there's a very small chance you could run into shifting problems but it would be very hard to do permanent damage.

Did the noise start after the 3rd gear fix was done? I would highly suspect the dealer if they tore the trans apart. It's happened many times during the 3rd gear fix.

I can't remember the other threads, when does the noise occur?
The problem occurred after my clutch was replaced about 2 months after the 3rd gear was fixed. And the noise occurred about 1 month after clutch was replaced. And I am getting small leaks, will the car burn the excess of tranny fluid?
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 07:43 PM
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Here's the video. It's not that great cuz it was raining but tomorrow should be nice out and I'll make a better one. But when you stop hearing the ticking that's when I had my foot on the clutch. It wasn't pressed down. My foot was just resting on the pedal.


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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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Hey guys, just an update. I haven't been getting the tick anymore! Wtf?! Anyone see the video?
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 12:51 AM
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are you talking about that high pitched squealing noise in the video?
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 08:55 AM
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You can really hear it in the beginning of the video. The video isn't that great but that loud noise you hear the first 3 secs is what I'm
Talking about
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 07:05 PM
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It came back!!! Some one please help me here's a better video
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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Does the sound stop when touching the clutch pedal or does the pedal need to be depressed slightly and if so how much?
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
Does the sound stop when touching the clutch pedal or does the pedal need to be depressed slightly and if so how much?
When I layed the phone on the engine bay and you hear the noise stop that's when I layed my foot on the clutch . If I hold the clutch the noise goes away until I release it
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 08:09 PM
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You can hear the noise stop also when I'm playing with my gears. And as soon as I let go of the clutch it comes back
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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I just went for a drive and noticed when I make right hand turns the noise stops, when I make left hand turns it doesn't stop. When I'm in a stop and Turn the steering wheel to the right it still makes the noise. Hmm now I'm really confused
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 08:44 PM
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Even though you checked the pedal to the carpet distance, I would make certain the rod has play before pushing on the master cylinder. Disconnect it from the pedal and see if there is any play before resistance is felt in the master cylinder. If there is no play you can adjust the rod to correct the condition but there are a couple of switches that might need to be adjusted also, as you can see them contacting the pedal. Just make certain that any movement or adjustment of the rod be noted for reference.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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Hey everyone I just found out that when I rev the car a lil not pass 3k the noise gets louder but disapates .when I let go of the accelerator the noise is gone than comes back slowly. This is at idle in neutral. So now idk if it's the trans or maybe just the engine valves. But why would it completely stop if I have the clutch pedal pressed? I'm extremely confused now. Any help? Oh also when I warm up the car in the morning there's no noise, but when I start driving and I stop at wawa for coffee and get out of the car you can here the noise again. Wtf can it be?
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 02:31 AM
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I have the same type of thing, but it's not as audible as yours. It almost sounds like it's chattering, but just lightly put your foot on the clutch and it stops.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Tehvine
I have the same type of thing, but it's not as audible as yours. It almost sounds like it's chattering, but just lightly put your foot on the clutch and it stops.
Do you by any chance know what the problem is?
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 05:18 PM
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The crankshaft thrusts forward usually when a load is applied. It shouldn't be more than a thousandth of an inch or two but it might be enough to make the noise in the trans or clutch come or go.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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That's puzzling. I watched the video and it sounds like a belt or pulley issue to me. Does it go away if you increase the revs? If it's the clutch, it may mean going back to a stock clutch, but that would be a pricey option with no guarantee the noise might stop.
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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Did you ever solve the problem? My 05 TL 6 speed also is making that sound. It also started after replacing the clutch, but about 8 months after. I replaced it with exedy oem clutch though, not luk. The noise also goes away when i press the clutch, and it usually only does it when the engine is cold.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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Hello - Any updates on this thread? I have a 2006 that makes a similiar noise any time the clutch pedal is not depressed slightly. I am guessing this is a throw out bearing but it would be good to know if the folks in this thread were ever able to pinpoint the problem.
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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my 98 prelude does that same noise, but mines is because the fork on the tranny is not tight, i put my finger on the fork and it goes away, it's vibrating more than normal
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 09:40 PM
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I wonder if white angel replaced the flywheel when the clutch was done?
mnm27mnm, when you did yours, did you replace your flywheel?
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