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Old 02-03-2008 | 12:16 PM
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Rust On Wheels / Brake Parts

All four of my wheels on my 2007 TL have rust of them. The brake parts on my TL also have rust. Is this normal for a car that's only 1 year old? How would I go about fixing this problem? Take it to the dealer?







Yes, I know. My car hasn't been washed due to the cold weather.
Old 02-03-2008 | 12:25 PM
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Ya, it does seem unusual - especially on the lug nuts. However, it depends on where are you located. Where u?
Old 02-03-2008 | 12:44 PM
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I'm in NJ. Would the dealer cover this under warranty? It's a 2007 TL with 8,400 miles (purchased 12/2006). Also, all 16 of my lug nuts are like that!
Old 02-03-2008 | 01:12 PM
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Is there a simple and safe DIY fix for this?
Old 02-03-2008 | 01:13 PM
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My lug nuts are rusting too, I got my car in November of '06 so my car is a year and 3 months old. Brake rust on the rotors is normal, almost every car in the NE has that, and the calipers look like they're oxidizing too, I'm not sure if mine are, I'll check later. Yeah you're lugs are a bit more rusted than mine.
Old 02-03-2008 | 01:16 PM
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This is what happens to cars that get salt on them from those hard winter days. Brake rotors will rust like that. Looks like the lugs are in need replacing. Try to keep the salt off the car.
Old 02-03-2008 | 01:46 PM
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Would a rust remover (e.g., WD-40) work on the lug nuts or will it cause more harm than good?
Old 02-03-2008 | 01:56 PM
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rust on calipers and rotors is normal. the lug nuts have too much rust though.

once the rust is removed, you have to cover/coat the area to prevent future rust.
Old 02-03-2008 | 01:59 PM
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I understand rust on the rotors and calipers - but this much on the lugs and lock in one year? I agree with mmade22 - it must be the harsh chemicals in your area. I don't think a rust remover/cleaner will do it - won't restore the finish coat.
Old 02-03-2008 | 02:30 PM
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I understand rust on the rotors and calipers - but this much on the lugs and lock in one year? I agree with mmade22 - it must be the harsh chemicals in your area. I don't think a rust remover/cleaner will do it - won't restore the finish coat.
My TL's lugnuts are rust-free, but my last car -- a 2000 Accord -- developed the same problem yours has when it was a year or two old. The Honda dealer replaced the lugnuts free of charge.
Old 02-03-2008 | 02:33 PM
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I'm in NJ. Would the dealer cover this under warranty? It's a 2007 TL with 8,400 miles (purchased 12/2006). Also, all 16 of my lug nuts are like that!
My TL's lugnuts are rust-free, but my last car -- a 2000 Accord -- developed the same problem yours has when it was a year or two old. The Honda dealer replaced the lugnuts free of charge.
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damn where in NJ u at? seems like theres alot of snow salt in that area
Old 02-03-2008 | 04:49 PM
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Has anyone tried WD-40 or any other rust remover on lug nuts? Or should I just take it to the dealer? They'll probably just tell me it's a normal characteristic of the car.
Old 02-03-2008 | 05:03 PM
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Take it to the dealer and ask them to replace the lug nuts. Although it's common for the rotors to have rust I'd say that that's an excessive amount of rust on the lug nuts for a 1 year old car. Unless you've had your wheels taken on and off several times in that 1 year.

It’s an eye sore and it's nothing for the dealer to replace.
Old 02-03-2008 | 05:12 PM
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Thats what they make caliper paint for, puts an end to the surface rusting and can be used on the exposed parts of the rotor as well. $10 for a kit at parts stores
Wax your wheels and lugs with synthetic- liquid wax is easy to use here- and that should help prevent further probs.

Warning to NJ drivers- desper's 05 spent 2 years there, and the rotors were stuck on like you could not believe. Pull everything apart and apply caliper grease to anything not being painted! Especially- remove rotor and grease where it contacts the metal ring in the center.
When you go to change brakes later you will understand
Old 02-03-2008 | 05:20 PM
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Thats normal rust on the nuts .. dealer won't replace them .. its your job to keep them clean.

Also of the nuts have been removed with an impact that stars the rust process.

Take them off one at a time and clean them with NevrDul then give them a coat od NuFinush Liguid sealant..
Old 02-03-2008 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TLMcLovin
...unless you've had your wheels taken on and off several times in that 1 year...
The only time my wheels came off in that year was when I had my A1 service done (tire rotation). I have to go to the dealer to get some rattles looked and I'll make sure to point this out. I would understand if it was only 1 or 2 lug nuts, but all 16?! This bad?! If the dealer doesn't do anything for me, how much would it cost to replace 16 lug nuts? I tried finding them on the Honda eStore, but I couldn't.
Old 02-03-2008 | 05:34 PM
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Will NEVR-DULL take all the rust off? Also, this is definitely not normal for a car that's only a year old. I checked all the cars in my driveway and none of them are like this.
Old 02-03-2008 | 05:35 PM
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In most cases it will .. depends on if it surface or not .. if past that nothing will.
Old 02-03-2008 | 05:58 PM
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yeah .. that look a bit excessive to me .. remind me of the old Chicago winter days ...
Old 02-03-2008 | 06:52 PM
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[QUOTE=Jesstzn]Thats normal rust on the nuts .. dealer won't replace them .. its your job to keep them clean. QUOTE]

Sorry I have to disagree. I'll be returning my 04 TL that I've had since Feb 2004. My lug nuts have seen the impact many times. Many tire rotations, tire replacements in the 4 years and they are not rusting like slicks are.

Slicks car is 1 yr old its not much at all to ask the dealer to replace them when he's in for his next service (tire rotation).
Old 02-03-2008 | 06:57 PM
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I noticed that my 07 TL-S is starting to do the same thing on the lug nuts. Mine was delivered in July 2007.
Old 02-03-2008 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by S L I C K
The only time my wheels came off in that year was when I had my A1 service done (tire rotation). I have to go to the dealer to get some rattles looked and I'll make sure to point this out. I would understand if it was only 1 or 2 lug nuts, but all 16?! This bad?! If the dealer doesn't do anything for me, how much would it cost to replace 16 lug nuts? I tried finding them on the Honda eStore, but I couldn't.
They're not very expenisve.

BTW you would have 20 lugnuts includng the locks.
Old 02-03-2008 | 07:18 PM
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I agree with TLMcLovin. I have the following cars parked in my driveway and none of them are showing rust on the lug nuts.

1. Lexus GS
2. Mazda 3
3. Honda Civic
4. BMW X5
5. BMW 7 Series
6. Jeep Liberty

All of the above cars are older than my TL. The Mazda 3 is my girlfriend's and the Honda Civic is my sister's. They never clean or take care of their cars. I just cleaned my car 3 weeks ago. I just hope that the dealer replaces them because I really don't want to spend $75 - $100 on lug nuts ( I might be way off on the price, but that's what I assume they'll cost ).
Old 02-03-2008 | 07:53 PM
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I am seeing a trend, possibly subpar metals used when the manufacturer made a certain batch of nuts?!

Take it to the dealer, they may change them out in good faith. You go to the dealer for your service? Thats usually when they do it without hesitation
Old 02-04-2008 | 06:41 PM
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Does anyone know where I can get OEM Acura lug nuts if the dealer doesn't replace them?
Old 02-04-2008 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by S L I C K
Has anyone tried WD-40 or any other rust remover on lug nuts? Or should I just take it to the dealer? They'll probably just tell me it's a normal characteristic of the car.

WD-40 is not a "rust remover". It displaces water (WD = Water Displacement), thereby delaying rust formation.

But, if the chrome/coating is deteriorated, they'll just rust again.
Old 02-04-2008 | 07:16 PM
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did you know the 40 part was because it was test formula #40
the things you learn on acurazine !
And its real secret is finding 40 things it Wont Do~
not a deodorant,
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Old 02-04-2008 | 10:38 PM
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Take it to the dealer, they may change them out in good faith.
This makes the most sense to me.
Wadding polish will also remove rust stains, as does WD-40. The petroleum distillates (kerosene) in both products, will remove most stains, just like it helps loosen old stubborn nuts (dont get funny on me) with rust. It will also help prevent it by displacing water before it has a chance to settle with other petroleum products. But you would have to keep it on there for it to work. WD-40 is an amazing product, and should be in every trunk or glove box. Need to remove a quick water stain? Try a little WD on a Microfiber and dab, then wipe away. It will help dissolve the calcium and lime in hard water. (Try it on shower doors (if you can handle the scent. It really breaks through hard water and soap scum).
Another option is, if you wash the car, make sure you take it for a spin around the block after you have dried and quick detailed it. This will help in removing any standing water in sensitive areas.
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Had the exact same problem with my 07 TL (rusty lugnuts), took it in to the dealer today and they replaced all the lugnuts. I went to Autozone and bought some nanotech wheel wax and applied that to all the wheels/lugnuts hopefully that keeps em clean for a while.
Old 02-27-2008 | 09:33 PM
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My car is only 5 months old and i have the same problem...its definitely an eye sore. I'm going to have to go to the dealer and get them replaced during the A1 service. Hopefully they replace them!
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Originally Posted by S L I C K
Has anyone tried WD-40 or any other rust remover on lug nuts? Or should I just take it to the dealer? They'll probably just tell me it's a normal characteristic of the car.
You could try to use WD40 to get the rust off and then put a silicon on them to prevent the rust from further happening. Or I would go to the dealer and have them replace them and then put something like Silicon on them. I do this with my mountain bike and it works great.
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about the areas near the brake hubs and other suspension compnents under the car etc. that rust....

It just shouldn't be so....My car is just 1 1/2 yrs. old and has the same problem as everyone else's. How do I know? I look at every other TL and they all have the same problem; and it is considered "normal". Why do we have to put up with this? It makes our cars look so cheap. Mercedes owners would shriek if someone told them it was "normal" for theis cars.

Anyone who has painted these parts, has it successfully stayed rust-free for a long time? I had the same problem on a car I used to own back in college and I painted all those parts silver. Every 6 months I had to touch it up though. I am planning on tackling it the same time when I paint my calipers.
Old 03-01-2008 | 06:33 PM
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about the areas near the brake hubs and other suspension compnents under the car etc. that rust....

It just shouldn't be so....My car is just 1 1/2 yrs. old and has the same problem as everyone else's. How do I know? I look at every other TL and they all have the same problem; and it is considered "normal". Why do we have to put up with this? It makes our cars look so cheap. Mercedes owners would shriek if someone told them it was "normal" for theis cars.

Anyone who has painted these parts, has it successfully stayed rust-free for a long time? I had the same problem on a car I used to own back in college and I painted all those parts silver. Every 6 months I had to touch it up though. I am planning on tackling it the same time when I paint my calipers.
Ya its called normal .. especially in winter climates .. My TL has it .. My VW had it .. My 4Runner had it .. all my Chevs had it ....My son-in-laws 500 SL had it .. his Ferarri 355 has it. And neither are winter driven. His Mirano had it and his Ridgline has it.

As far as the OP and the lug nuts ... well thats a little different.
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i had my A1 service today and the dealer replaced all of my lugs since they were rusted. just a little heads up for anyone else that has this problem.
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yes you can paint the center and outer edges of rotors as well as the caliper brackets and the calipers themselves.
Warning- some parts get very hot- like the edge of the rotor
Use BBQ 1100 degree paint as a base there- then some duplicolor caliper paint if you want a gloss finish- regular caliper paint good to 600 degrees.
If its metal- rough up the surface- mask off other parts and have at it~
Give the rims 3 coats of synthetic car wax to help cut down brake dust problems
Some members even get plastic paint and do the inner fender liner panels too.
You can use synthetic car wax on the mudguards to- keeps them shiny and cleaner
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