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Old 04-22-2012, 12:15 PM
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Intermediate shaft bearing blown??

Hey Guys,

I have a 2006 Acura TL 5AT w/ 101k miles. I've been fighting a high speed vibration issue for quite some time now. I was under my car yesterday inspecting the axles and intermediate shaft. I notice on the passenger side where the axle meets the intermediate shaft it looks as though the bearing "popped" and grease is bulged out around that area. Has anyone had this issue? Were vibrations the symptoms?

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Yes, a bad or worn intermediate shaft will cause severe vibration...I went through the same thing...I changed both axles and vibration was still there.I went ahead and changed the intermediate shaft and problem solved...good luck
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Originally Posted by bluetl04
Yes, a bad or worn intermediate shaft will cause severe vibration...I went through the same thing...I changed both axles and vibration was still there.I went ahead and changed the intermediate shaft and problem solved...good luck
Thanks man...I will report back with the results after I replace the bearing.
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Originally Posted by 2k6ATL
Thanks man...I will report back with the results after I replace the bearing.
Is the high speed vibrations over 60mph and felt through the floor and steering wheel? Please describe it a bit more and please post after you try the change! Thanks!
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Originally Posted by egprelude
Is the high speed vibrations over 60mph and felt through the floor and steering wheel? Please describe it a bit more and please post after you try the change! Thanks!
I expected the worst and I got the worst. My vibrations were anything greater than 70MPH felt in the entire car including the steering wheel. The steering wheel would also really vibrate hard when braking. The dealer called back today and informed me that I need the following:

Intermediate Shaft
Front Lower Compliance Bushings & Alignment
Brake Job

TOTAL: $1700....NOT HAPPENING

Intermediate Shaft and Lower Compliance Bushings will be replaced by my local mechanic for $600 including alignment. I'll do the brakes myself. Will keep you updated within the next few days if these new parts fix my problem. I'll be taking the 2012 Acura TL loaner they gave me out for a joyride tonight!
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Just wanted to give everyone an update. I got a new midshaft and new LCA compliance bushings. High speed vibration has been eliminated and braking vibrations have been reduced. Once I replace my rotors they should be 100% eliminated. Happy with the results!
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Do you mind taking a picture of the intermediate shaft problem?
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Originally Posted by egprelude
Do you mind taking a picture of the intermediate shaft problem?
Unfortunately I can't take a picture of the old shaft because I don't have it. All I can do is describe the busted part of it. Grease was oozing out of the area where the passenger side axle meets the midshaft. It was very easy to see that something was wrong and there was play where the axle met the midshaft.
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im having the same prob but mine starts after 30mph just changed the wheel bearings no change both shafts look good...
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Bump.

What exactly is the intermediate shaft? Does anyone have an OEM Part # or an alternative name I can find on RockAuto or something?

Having this problem right now my car started shaking like crazy yesterday on acceleration. I've been slammed on Tein SS for a month the vibration was minimal before but it got really bad now. Gonna change the axles and looking for this Intermediate Shaft if someone can help me. Thanks!
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your vibration issue sounds more like a byproduct of being lowered vs. the intermediate shaft. The suspension geometry has no effect on the int. shaft.

The intermediate shaft isnt affected by how high or low your car is. Your axles/CV joints however, are.

you can find the intermediate shaft under the car, connected to the passenger side axle.
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Originally Posted by azeezp13
Bump.

What exactly is the intermediate shaft? Does anyone have an OEM Part # or an alternative name I can find on RockAuto or something?

Having this problem right now my car started shaking like crazy yesterday on acceleration. I've been slammed on Tein SS for a month the vibration was minimal before but it got really bad now. Gonna change the axles and looking for this Intermediate Shaft if someone can help me. Thanks!
This:



That's the intermediate shaft.

If you're doing the axles might as well do the shaft, it's another $200 and you need to remove the J-Pipe to get it out.

Also that little pry bar in the photo is a huge help when popping out the axles or intermediate shaft.

Its on the passenger side, between the inner CV joint and the trans case. Driver's side axle goes straight to the hub from the trans, but the passenger side needs this to be a little longer to make it to the trans.

I picked it up from delray when I did mine, search their site under the Driveshaft - halfshaft.

http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/jsp/catdisplay.jsp

They have a 5% off discount for AZ members too, coupon code ACURAZINE just typed into the comments box.

I went with raxles when I did mine (if you have an auto trans), its a lot cheaper than OEM and uses OEM parts. The crap you'll get at autozone or somewhere like that is going to be junk, for major components with bearings I stick with OEM unless I can find a better alternative, which is not often.

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Bumping this 4 year old thread.

If any of you are still around, I owe you all a huge thanks! I was haunted for 7 months by an issue that everyone kept telling me was a bad inboard axle joint. Symptoms are going to be the exact same, except even after replacing my axles, the shaking during acceleration never went away. I had several shops blame the "aftermarket" axles on my car. I trusted that my Raxles weren't the issue since I had the same issue before and after replacing both axles. My intermediate shaft looked very similar to mzilvar's except there was a bit more grease sprayed around on it. Once I got the intermediate shaft out, I noticed there was a ton of play in it. The shaking symptoms were somewhat intermittent for me. Sometimes the car would accelerate smooth, but other times it felt terrible. It seemed to be worst when getting back on the accelerator after coasting at low (parking lot) speeds.

Hopefully this thread can help someone else! This seems to be a RARE issue and hard to diagnose. I had multiple Honda/Acura mechanics tell me they have never replaced an intermediate shaft before. I would say my car is 95% smoother now. Still not perfect, but it is 11 years old with 113k miles and probably needs a few other parts replaced.
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I'm getting my 10 TL check out because I telly believe I'm having a problem with my intermediate shaft. My car shakes when I accelerate above 70 mph. I'll keep yall posted.
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Originally Posted by bluetl04
Yes, a bad or worn intermediate shaft will cause severe vibration...I went through the same thing...I changed both axles and vibration was still there.I went ahead and changed the intermediate shaft and problem solved...good luck
I would change both axle shafts and intermediate Bearing at the same time.
I did mine, when I replaced the c.v. axle shafts only, the vibration got worse.
Apparently it all wore evenly slitting the slop if you will,
Once exles were replaced, the bearing took the brunt of it all and vibrated the car at about 60mph or slightly more very bad.
I replaced the intermediate bearing and now it runs smoothly, zero vibration.
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Originally Posted by jpowers357
I'm getting my 10 TL check out because I telly believe I'm having a problem with my intermediate shaft. My car shakes when I accelerate above 70 mph. I'll keep yall posted.
Reviving an ancient thread here: How did this end up going for you??

I just picked up a 2006 Acura TSX with 140,000km on it (80,000 miles). Bad wobbling with acceleration, replaced left and right CV axles with aftermarket parts. It's MUCH, MUCH better, but there's still a tiny wobble at 40km/hr-ish. Acura dealership says the intermediate shaft should be next, but reading all sorts of horror stories about aftermarket CV axles, and how the culprit is always the CV inner joint (https://www.heeltoeauto.com/news/04-...and-fixed.html). Would love to hear experiences if you got'em.

Cheers!
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i have a 2010 tl and im having a problem finding a intermediate shaft. all i can find is for a manual transmission, which is about 2mm thicker and slightly longer i think. am i better off just trying to find the bearing? most of the shafts ive found on the internet dont state if it is for a manual or auto but the ones that do are for manual. thanks
if anyone knows how i can get a part # that would be a great help

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Originally Posted by dee_snutts;[url=tel:16831443
16831443[/url]]i have a 2010 tl and im having a problem finding a intermediate shaft. all i can find is for a manual transmission, which is about 2mm thicker and slightly longer i think. am i better off just trying to find the bearing? most of the shafts ive found on the internet dont state if it is for a manual or auto but the ones that do are for manual. thanks
if anyone knows how i can get a part # that would be a great help
Reviving this ancient thread once again. It’s time for me to change out my intermediate shaft as well. If I am wrong, hopefully the next person will correct me, but good luck finding an aftermarket intermediate shaft. Couldn’t find one on Rock Auto, AutoZone…hell I even went to the shop that my buddy works at and he couldn’t find it anywhere in his parts system. You’ll have to buy from the dealer. PN:

44500-SJA-000


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Originally Posted by trevy021
Reviving this ancient thread once again. It’s time for me to change out my intermediate shaft as well. If I am wrong, hopefully the next person will correct me, but good luck finding an aftermarket intermediate shaft. Couldn’t find one on Rock Auto, AutoZone…hell I even went to the shop that my buddy works at and he couldn’t find it anywhere in his parts system. You’ll have to buy from the dealer. PN:

44500-SJA-000


Why change out the entire intermediate shaft?
It's (most likely) just the bearing that's bad that can be purchased and replaced separately. I would do the seals too.
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I have a 2007 Acura TL 3.2 base made in America/dash is in miles,

I got the complete axle twice and both times it did not fit. I tried using a 2006 axle the intermediate half shaft was too short I got a 2007 and the shaft is 1/2’ to long. How many different axles does the 2007 Tl base have, I’m in Vancouver Canada. Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated. Issue at first was i was installing new cv axle and the half shaft can was seized so in process of removing it the entire axle came off breaking the shafts bracket.
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Originally Posted by twokexlv6coupe
Why change out the entire intermediate shaft?
It's (most likely) just the bearing that's bad that can be purchased and replaced separately. I would do the seals too.
Not sure how I'm just seeing this! I don't have a press, but I suppose I could bring it to a shop and have them press the new one in. I already ordered the intermediate shaft, but if the dealer allows me to return it, I'll definitely get the bearing and save myself $300.
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Originally Posted by trevy021
Not sure how I'm just seeing this! I don't have a press, but I suppose I could bring it to a shop and have them press the new one in. I already ordered the intermediate shaft, but if the dealer allows me to return it, I'll definitely get the bearing and save myself $300.

I did mine without a press as well. Just heat, hammer, and circlip pliers.
And put the new bearing in the freezer prior to installation
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Good to know it can be done without a press. Thanks for the tips!!!
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Originally Posted by TJ B
I got the complete axle twice and both times it did not fit. I tried using a 2006 axle the intermediate half shaft was too short I got a 2007 and the shaft is 1/2’ too long. How many different axles does the 2007 Tl base have.
Your issue is likely this:
there is only 1 each of axles and intermediate shaft for the 2007. BUT, in 2006 there were 2 different Left axles, 2 different right axles, and 2 different intermediate shafts depending on which transmission was in the car, 5AT or 6MT.
Also note that the 5AT in the 07/08 is not the same unit as in the 04-06, so it’s possible that No combination of 06 axles/intermediate shafts will work in an 07.
just buy the right one for the 2007:

Shaft Assembly, Half - Acura (44500-SJA-000)



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Originally Posted by Sacto Civic
just buy the right one for the 2007:

Shaft Assembly, Half - Acura (44500-SJA-000)


I explained that the 44500-SJA-000 was the one to get for his TL in his thread below:
Intermediate shaft woes…. - AcuraZine - Acura Enthusiast Community
Never received a response, otherwise.
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