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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:09 PM
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Check engine light came on after a drift?

Did some drifting in the snow tonight my 08 AT tls, I parked up with my friends and we chilled a bit and then I turned my engine off for about 15 min, after 15 min I started my engine and a check engine light came on?

Could it be because I switched to HFPC a few days ago and the O2 sensors are just tripping out?

Also I did put the tranny into 1st gear sportshift mode and did some donuts.

Before I go to my mechanic, what do you guys think it could be?
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 12:15 AM
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Don't mean to be rude, but WHY are you drifting in a FWD car in the first place?

There really is no point, unless you want to pretend like you're in Tokyo Drift and use the e-brake.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 01:14 AM
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If it was the HFPC I would think it would've came on a few days ago when you first had it installed.

Who knows what the issue could be, but if the light came on because of your antics, you deserve it.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 05:52 AM
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A check engine light can go on for over 2000 known reasons, none of us here, even I who is a certified technician for over 10 years can tell you why that light is on. You need to get it scanned. If you're worried about cost, take it to autozone they can scan it for you.

For the future, keep in mind that doing drifts in a FWD is a no. Get yourself a vehicle that can do so.

These transmissions are like glass, doing this in 1st gear and I'm sure you were bouncing off the rev limiter is a huge NO.

You also had VSA off. Lucky enough you didn't trip any VSA codes.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 07:03 AM
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the price you pay when you're out there hooning.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 07:19 AM
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN
A check engine light can go on for over 2000 known reasons, none of us here, even I who is a certified technician for over 10 years can tell you why that light is on. You need to get it scanned. If you're worried about cost, take it to autozone they can scan it for you.
This. Parts Source and maybe Canadian Tire can check/clear codes for you.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 07:55 AM
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If the car is still driving normally, keep driving it for a few days and see if it goes away. Usually after about 4-5 engine starts and an unknown number of miles, any engine code that has cleared itself will turn off the CEL light. Even before it clears, it doesn't hurt to take it to AutoZone or Jiffy Lube (or any Canadian equivalent) and have them scan the code for you.

Also, you have a Type-S, which means you have nav, so if it's a new code that your car has never experienced, the nav system should have told you what the code is right away, along with what the code means. If it didn't, that means that the code has been triggered before, so you'll have to go into the menu, find the diagnostic messages, and you'll see the code in there. If there's more than one, you won't really be able to know which one came up, so you'll still have to get it scanned.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 08:30 AM
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You said you have an 08 TLS which means you have nav, which means the car tells you what the code is. Why not look for yourself?
You can do some cool things in the diagnostic menu in the 07/08's. You can even erase the codes as well.
Woops, Bla8291 beat me to it^^^
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 09:17 AM
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For a second I thought I was just reading my comment over again haha.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 09:19 AM
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Drift............uh you mean power sliding in the snow

Go get it scan from Autozone like others stated.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by EvilVirus
Drift............uh you mean power sliding in the snow

Go get it scan from Autozone like others stated.


Why bother? The nav tells you the code.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 02:39 PM
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GUYS my nav doesn't tell me any codes... I pressed all 3 buttons and got into diagnosis screen and it's simply does not show a "XM module" like everyone claim to have? Why doesn't my nav shows it?
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pegon95
GUYS my nav doesn't tell me any codes... I pressed all 3 buttons and got into diagnosis screen and it's simply does not show a "XM module" like everyone claim to have? Why doesn't my nav shows it?
Because you don't have an XM module, being in Canada.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by polobunny
Because you don't have an XM module, being in Canada.
How else can I see the codes in the navi?
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pegon95
How else can I see the codes in the navi?
I don't know, I don't have a Navi, and I use an OBDII device to read codes.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 05:52 PM
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go to the same drifting spot and do it counter-clockwise. check engine light should go off after 15mins.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 10:50 PM
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Lol you guys are funny -_- i went to canadiantire and bought an OBDII tool and scanned the code and i got P0174 which apparently well I THINK at least i got from mixing 2 types of fuel...

What i mean is i spent $10 in petro canada and bought 91 fuel, then a day later i went to esso and bought $20 worth of 93 fuel... and my OBDII scanner said "fuel is too lean" it was really confusing but i guess lesson learned... don't mix 2 diff fuel type from 2 diff gas stations ..
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Pegon95
Lol you guys are funny -_- i went to canadiantire and bought an OBDII tool and scanned the code and i got P0174 which apparently well I THINK at least i got from mixing 2 types of fuel...

What i mean is i spent $10 in petro canada and bought 91 fuel, then a day later i went to esso and bought $20 worth of 93 fuel... and my OBDII scanner said "fuel is too lean" it was really confusing but i guess lesson learned... don't mix 2 diff fuel type from 2 diff gas stations ..
Not sure you'd be getting a P0174 out of mixing 2 types of fuel, though...

But you know, you could have told us you mixed two types of fuel to start with. It's hard to diagnose problems without knowing everything involved.




drift drift drift.... TOKYOOOOO
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 09:23 AM
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fuel is too lean because o2 sensors are failing.

not because of the mixed gas sources


actually, it IS BECAUSE OF YOUR HFPC's.
the o2 sensors are reading a lean condition.

mess with the o2 sensors, by unplugging them, plugging them. unscrewing them, screwing them in.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
fuel is too lean because o2 sensors are failing.

not because of the mixed gas sources


actually, it IS BECAUSE OF YOUR HFPC's.
the o2 sensors are reading a lean condition.

mess with the o2 sensors, by unplugging them, plugging them. unscrewing them, screwing them in.
Why would they start failing out of no where? And I can't really just mess with the O2 sensors they really aren't that easy to reach... well at least the rear one isn't
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 04:11 PM
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Because you don't have an XM module, being in Canada.
He has XM. XM was introduced to Canadian models in 2007.
That's why they have XM roof antennas but 04-06 canadian TLs don't.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pegon95
Why would they start failing out of no where? And I can't really just mess with the O2 sensors they really aren't that easy to reach... well at least the rear one isn't
Because they're electrical components that just fail sometime. They're hard but check it out and see whats going on soon.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 04:27 PM
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Because they're electrical components that just fail sometime. They're hard but check it out and see whats going on soon.
Do you have an idea where is the (bank 2) O2 sensor at? That's the one getting the error
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 05:13 PM
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this is the price we pay when we modify or deviate away from stock.
the car becomes "less reliable" per se.


the 02 sensor might not even be bad.
it's reading the correct levels of the car, ya know, because you do have High flowing cats....


I have pre-cat deletes.
once the car realizes that it's not reading the correct air fuel ratios; it'll throw the check engine light.
so, sometimes, I can trick the inspection and registration of the vehicle by resetting the check engine light.
it wont come on until after I pass emissions.

however; one day i took out the PCD's and re-installed them.
I must have positioned the 02 sensors differently or more tightly....
check engine light doesnt come on any more!!!!!

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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
this is the price we pay when we modify or deviate away from stock.
the car becomes "less reliable" per se.


the 02 sensor might not even be bad.
it's reading the correct levels of the car, ya know, because you do have High flowing cats....
So how does everybody else on this forums with HFPC deal with this problems lmao
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 05:20 PM
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you definitely need to check out whats going on with the 02 sensors by visually inspecting it, then physically checking it, making sure its in there tightly.


if after physically checking it, and its still throwing the code, I would buy a new one.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 05:24 PM
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bank 1 is near the firewall
bank 2 is near the radiator.

there's 4 02 sensors in total.
you'll need to know which sensor #1 or #2
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 05:27 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 05:31 PM
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It's not uncommon for an o2 sensor to fail. It may or may not be related to you HFPCs, but either way, if you replace the sensors you should be fine from then on.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 05:36 PM
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Also, have you checked to see if your Noz button is stuck? I'd be weary because it may throw a "danger to manifold" code on your navi screen. Worst case scenario, your passenger side floor pan drops and your engine smokes like crazy once you come to a stop.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 05:42 PM
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What justn said. Goodluck!
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
bank 1 is near the firewall
bank 2 is near the radiator.

there's 4 02 sensors in total.
you'll need to know which sensor #1 or #2
Thank you! When my mechanic was reconnecting my o2 sensors he gave me an advice and told me to wrap the wires with heat resisting tape? Because since I removed the heat shields it might fry my wires?

If i change my o2 sensors just as a precaution should I change all 4 of them just to be safe? And how much is an OEM one for our cars?
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 05:53 PM
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^nope, no reason to fix what's not broken.

after visual and physical inspection; I would only buy the one that is throwing the code.

Do you remember which sensor it was?
Bank 2 sensor __ ?
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 05:55 PM
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#9 #10 #11 #13 are the sensors.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
^nope, no reason to fix what's not broken.

after visual and physical inspection; I would only buy the one that is throwing the code.

Do you remember which sensor it was?
Bank 2 sensor __ ?
No clue :/ my OBDII never said which one it just gave a generic code
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Old Jan 8, 2015 | 11:53 AM
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Wouldn't high-flow/cat deletes cause O2 sensors to read rich? Not lean? And that's why O2 spacers are common with cat deletes?
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 09:27 AM
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I have had HFPC for over 3 years with no issues. I doubt its your cats so get the 02 sensors check like justn said. inspect them all; its only 4 sensors.
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 11:54 PM
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here in california, autozone will not read any codes for you, it has to do with some kind of law
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