Nokiaboy808's up-coming plans
08-12-2008, 01:27 PM
#82
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Originally Posted by Wseminuk
Its a VIP/EURO style. It look tite and it allows you to run crazy sizes and offsets and still be low.
"The origin of hipari, as far as I know, is twofold. One: drifters/touge drivers wanted a way to get great steering feel out of normal street tires. Thus, they stretched them to make the sidewalls stiffer, without having to pony up the cash for more expensive tires. Two: drifters/touge drivers want to run as low as possible, and with the current trend of big, wide, low-offset wheels, stretching the tires and running tons of negative camber is the only way to get the necessary clearance..."
More can be found at: Drifting.com
08-12-2008, 01:47 PM
#83
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Mug & wostring. Yall need to chill out. Nokiaboy is my hommie and yall talkin shit about like he dont know what hes doing. Theres ALOT of differnt "styles" out there. Maybe you dont understand. maybe you do. Sorry if i hurt your feelings Mug. Didnt really mean to. Its a forum and people will talk shit. you need to let it go in one eye and out the other LOL
Wostring: Sir, stop comming out of left feild with that stupid lil picture with the guy running from the bike. Its OBVIOUSLY meant for you. You sit there and say "I dont understand why people stretch tires" wellllllll........YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING!. Not me, I obviously understand why his tires are stretched. and you dont. so that picture is meant for you
Wostring: Sir, stop comming out of left feild with that stupid lil picture with the guy running from the bike. Its OBVIOUSLY meant for you. You sit there and say "I dont understand why people stretch tires" wellllllll........YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING!. Not me, I obviously understand why his tires are stretched. and you dont. so that picture is meant for you
08-12-2008, 01:51 PM
#84
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Skwatoe, I also know its a drift "style", BUT, since were dealing with sedans and a VIP look. I failed to mention the sporty drift style, and only try to describe our VIP style cars. But yah your right. BUT! i was right about wanting to be low as possible to try and get agressive rims to actually fit.
08-12-2008, 02:00 PM
#85
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Werd. I just needed to throw in a spec of my unhealthy love for the Japanese car culture, lol. If I had the extra $$$, this thread would have a 2nd AM TL dumped, VIP'ed and stretched!
08-12-2008, 02:45 PM
#86
Burning Brakes
Well, I don’t talk “shit” and I never once talked “shit” about anyone. My post was not directed towards anyone. My references to costs and looks were simple included in my post so that my question could be better answered. Wseminuk did answer my question from an aesthetic point of view, but Skwatoe answered it with more depth and history (oh, and he didn’t insult my car or my knowledge base). Everyone has a right to voice their opinion and should never be insulted for asking a question.
08-12-2008, 03:05 PM
#87
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Originally Posted by Mug
Well, I don’t talk “shit” and I never once talked “shit” about anyone. My post was not directed towards anyone. My references to costs and looks were simple included in my post so that my question could be better answered. Wseminuk did answer my question from an aesthetic point of view, but Skwatoe answered it with more depth and history (oh, and he didn’t insult my car or my knowledge base). Everyone has a right to voice their opinion and should never be insulted for asking a question.
It's inevitable, there's sooo many cultures and sub-cultures that make up certain looks, styles, or schools of thought, that you're bound to step on someone's toes. It's like when I put Lexus IS-F rims on a TL; big no-no, lol!
This thread is a perfect example of this; I love this style, and my close friend with a TL-S is disgusted by it! It's not for everyone I guess.
08-12-2008, 09:07 PM
#88
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Originally Posted by Mug
Everyone has a right to voice their opinion and should never be insulted for asking a question.
That being said, let's keep it civil gentlemen.
08-13-2008, 01:55 AM
#90
So I'm having this debate with someone. I have a friend who swears the Stretch tire trend was started by the Volkswagon camp, due to some tire width regulation of somewhat in Europe. I, on the other hand, believe that it was started by the Low Rider community.
Anyone wanna lay down the true history on Tire stretching.
BTW, I dig Stretch tires on aggressive offset wheels. I fell in love with that look back in the early '90s (possibly late '80s) when my uncles and their friends were rocking it on their VW's and BMWs. It was almost a taboo to pull that look on Hondas/Acuras back in the days, but now it seems accepted.
Some like Performance, some like styles. Nokiaboy is going for the best of both worlds! Good Luck on the build. BTW, are you planning on putting her in the StreetCar showoff this year?
Anyone wanna lay down the true history on Tire stretching.
BTW, I dig Stretch tires on aggressive offset wheels. I fell in love with that look back in the early '90s (possibly late '80s) when my uncles and their friends were rocking it on their VW's and BMWs. It was almost a taboo to pull that look on Hondas/Acuras back in the days, but now it seems accepted.
Some like Performance, some like styles. Nokiaboy is going for the best of both worlds! Good Luck on the build. BTW, are you planning on putting her in the StreetCar showoff this year?
08-13-2008, 07:28 AM
#92
06 6spd TL BAGGED
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mug- im going for the vip style look thats popular in japan and is being popular in the states now. its all about the stance and fitment of the wheels and suspension pretty much being the car is luxury. not everyone likes it, especially if they dont know why it's like that but to each his own.
rodney- yes i chose the tire size just for the looks pretty much, but i will be adding spacers to make the fitment for the rear the widest it can go w/o rubbing when slammed. their's probably around 8 mm's or around there to fill up but i never really took the time to measure it.
808night - yeah wseminuk helped me out with the vs-xx's, he did a ok job buffing out the haze. after that, they were sold to my friend and now its on a silver g35.
as for the car show.. well i was going to enter it in this months one but i never have enough funds for re-painting the front bumper and time to black out the headlights. =( hopefully it should be ready for the next one! we should all enter our tl's in the next one? ohh and as for the supercharger.. well i might need to sell it now because i need some scrillas.. soooo i might be selling it SOON if anyones interested?!
those are the only pictures i have as of now but i will be having a photo shoot so i'll be updating everyone again in the future.
thanks for everyone elses comments, it's much appreciated!
rodney- yes i chose the tire size just for the looks pretty much, but i will be adding spacers to make the fitment for the rear the widest it can go w/o rubbing when slammed. their's probably around 8 mm's or around there to fill up but i never really took the time to measure it.
808night - yeah wseminuk helped me out with the vs-xx's, he did a ok job buffing out the haze. after that, they were sold to my friend and now its on a silver g35.
as for the car show.. well i was going to enter it in this months one but i never have enough funds for re-painting the front bumper and time to black out the headlights. =( hopefully it should be ready for the next one! we should all enter our tl's in the next one? ohh and as for the supercharger.. well i might need to sell it now because i need some scrillas.. soooo i might be selling it SOON if anyones interested?!
those are the only pictures i have as of now but i will be having a photo shoot so i'll be updating everyone again in the future.
thanks for everyone elses comments, it's much appreciated!
08-13-2008, 07:54 AM
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Love the rims and the stretched tires you have on now.... Except I love your old rims more.
<3 mesh rims.
It's too bad to hear that you may be selling the SC.
Wish I had money to buy it from you... but being a student and 19 in Dec, money doesn't come so easily when I need to pay for the car as well. =[
Oh well, guess I'll have to wait for another opportunity when I have enough cash.
<3 mesh rims.
It's too bad to hear that you may be selling the SC.
Wish I had money to buy it from you... but being a student and 19 in Dec, money doesn't come so easily when I need to pay for the car as well. =[
Oh well, guess I'll have to wait for another opportunity when I have enough cash.
08-13-2008, 03:17 PM
#95
Do any of the hawaii guys have a crew they rep. Do you guys do alot of car cruises. I mostly hang out with the suby guys since i had a suby but would like to see all the tl's on the island. I just purchased my car like 2 months ago so i am very new to AZ scene.
08-13-2008, 04:30 PM
#96
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^^ Im guessing your on oahu? If so, and youd like to do cruz's then go to postjunky.com and go to the TL/CL/TSX section, there arnt many cruz's but it does happen.
08-13-2008, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 808nighthawkua6
So I'm having this debate with someone. I have a friend who swears the Stretch tire trend was started by the Volkswagon camp, due to some tire width regulation of somewhat in Europe. I, on the other hand, believe that it was started by the Low Rider community.
Anyone wanna lay down the true history on Tire stretching.
BTW, I dig Stretch tires on aggressive offset wheels. I fell in love with that look back in the early '90s (possibly late '80s) when my uncles and their friends were rocking it on their VW's and BMWs. It was almost a taboo to pull that look on Hondas/Acuras back in the days, but now it seems accepted.
Some like Performance, some like styles. Nokiaboy is going for the best of both worlds! Good Luck on the build. BTW, are you planning on putting her in the StreetCar showoff this year?
Anyone wanna lay down the true history on Tire stretching.
BTW, I dig Stretch tires on aggressive offset wheels. I fell in love with that look back in the early '90s (possibly late '80s) when my uncles and their friends were rocking it on their VW's and BMWs. It was almost a taboo to pull that look on Hondas/Acuras back in the days, but now it seems accepted.
Some like Performance, some like styles. Nokiaboy is going for the best of both worlds! Good Luck on the build. BTW, are you planning on putting her in the StreetCar showoff this year?
"The history behind hipari style stretched tires is two fold as poor people have been stretching tires onto wheels that don’t belong forever while euro tuners in Germany and Belgium started stretching their tires out of legal necessity. Local laws there require that the tire tread be within the fender line and with wider or lower offset wheels that can cause problems. To maintain the wide wheel fashion and keep the car street legal, narrow tires are stretched over the wide wheels."
It's hard to say who started it first. I guess you could look up when Europe began enforcing that law, and compare that date to the first records of when touge/dorifto hipari came into play.
08-13-2008, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bforbrian
i'm confused... what's the point of slamming the car that low if the fender's hiding the stretch look of the tire?
08-13-2008, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ecliptics
its only that low when hes parked.. car's on bags
08-14-2008, 01:57 AM
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ok I am gonna take a quick guess and say they mount the tires this way
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M0GNLvPmAg
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M0GNLvPmAg
08-14-2008, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
ok I am gonna take a quick guess and say they mount the tires this way
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M0GNLvPmAg
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M0GNLvPmAg
08-14-2008, 09:30 AM
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haha yeah thats one way but its dangerous. my friend works at bmw as a tech and used their tire mounting machine. it's a state-of-the-art one so we got it on with out using that method on youtube
08-16-2008, 04:00 PM
#106
Originally Posted by Skwatoe
From DriftJapan:
"The history behind hipari style stretched tires is two fold as poor people have been stretching tires onto wheels that don’t belong forever while euro tuners in Germany and Belgium started stretching their tires out of legal necessity. Local laws there require that the tire tread be within the fender line and with wider or lower offset wheels that can cause problems. To maintain the wide wheel fashion and keep the car street legal, narrow tires are stretched over the wide wheels."
It's hard to say who started it first. I guess you could look up when Europe began enforcing that law, and compare that date to the first records of when touge/dorifto hipari came into play.
"The history behind hipari style stretched tires is two fold as poor people have been stretching tires onto wheels that don’t belong forever while euro tuners in Germany and Belgium started stretching their tires out of legal necessity. Local laws there require that the tire tread be within the fender line and with wider or lower offset wheels that can cause problems. To maintain the wide wheel fashion and keep the car street legal, narrow tires are stretched over the wide wheels."
It's hard to say who started it first. I guess you could look up when Europe began enforcing that law, and compare that date to the first records of when touge/dorifto hipari came into play.
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