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Old 03-06-2018, 10:11 AM
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What can I do to gain more/maximum Performance?

Hey Guys I have a UA6 08 Base Tl, I came here to ask and see what you guys think I can do or get to gain the most possible power since I know many of you guys on these forums know a lot more then me!
So far I have the following mods performance wise
-XLR8 Resonated Quad tip Catback Exhaust
-XLR8 V3 J-pipe
-AEM V2 CAI

All replies and ideas are appreciated!

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If you want a faster car, I'd suggest selling your automatic TL and buying something faster right out the box.

Also, consider that mods like an air intake don't create more power, necessarily. What they do is shift the power... so you have less down low power and a bit more upper end power. Being an auto TL, I highly doubt you're revving that car to red line all the time... if anything, it's likely a daily driver, meaning that down low power is more vital than the upper end power.

Save your money... buy something faster, right out of the box.
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I completely agree with Taco, sell your car and buy something designed from the factory to be faster; any money you spend (or have already spent) on your car will be (or was) pretty much wasted.
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hondata tune if you can. the tune is the biggest bang for your buck.
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Originally Posted by TacoBello View Post
If you want a faster car, I'd suggest selling your automatic TL and buying something faster right out the box.

Also, consider that mods like an air intake don't create more power, necessarily. What they do is shift the power... so you have less down low power and a bit more upper end power. Being an auto TL, I highly doubt you're revving that car to red line all the time... if anything, it's likely a daily driver, meaning that down low power is more vital than the upper end power.

Save your money... buy something faster, right out of the box.
Yea I understand, but I love my car and already spent 3-4k cosmeticly on it. I'm just looking for suggestions for my car specifically since I'm keeping it for the long run.
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hondata tune if you can. the tune is the biggest bang for your buck.
thanks bro, Would that be suitable for a 5 speed? One of my friends told me its pointless unless you have a 6-speed.
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Originally Posted by royalte99 View Post
thanks bro, Would that be suitable for a 5 speed? One of my friends told me its pointless unless you have a 6-speed.
that's because the automatic transmission SUCKS.
with that being said; it's pointless to mod the auto tranny because it sucks.
if you want to continue to spend $3-4k on the car to gain marginal power, be my guest!
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Truth be told... Anything you spend will be kind of pointless...

I'd say go boost. It's not cheap. But it'll get you what you want. Not sure how well the transmission is suited for a power bump like that, though. Keep in mind, for every pound-foot of torque you add, you're likely shortening the life of your transmission. They just were never built to handle power.

Alternatively... If you spent 3-4k on cosmetic mods, it might be worth stripping them and selling them off and trying to regain as much of your money back.

Beyond that... Other mods... I dunno, light weight crank pulley, whatever spacers you can add (throttle body spacer, etc). These all increase power minimally though. And again... That transmission...
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So in summary, there is no cheap and/or easy mods for power on this platform. Define your budget and goals and then go from there. There is a lot you can do for more power...just depends if it aligns with your budget.
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So in summary, there is no cheap and/or easy mods for power on this platform. Define your budget and goals and then go from there. There is a lot you can do for more power...just depends if it aligns with your budget.
Budget is not a really a concern
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Originally Posted by royalte99 View Post
Hey Guys I have a UA6 08 Base Tl, I came here to ask and see what you guys think I can do or get to gain the most possible power since I know many of you guys on these forums know a lot more then me!
So far I have the following mods performance wise
-XLR8 Resonated Quad tip Catback Exhaust
-XLR8 V3 J-pipe
-AEM V2 CAI

All replies and ideas are appreciated!

My instagram btw is Capo_Tony
For all you telling me I cant gain massive gains, I understand. All I asked is how can I gain MAXIMUM power for what i have already..
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Budget is not a really a concern
Spend the $10k to turbo the car and walk away with 400-500HP then.
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Originally Posted by royalte99 View Post
For all you telling me I cant gain massive gains, I understand. All I asked is how can I gain MAXIMUM power for what i have already..
NO ONE CAN TELL YOU THAT! only you can pick and choose what parts align with your budget.

browse parts at www.heeltoeauto.com
and https://excelerateperformance.com/store
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Originally Posted by justnspace View Post
NO ONE CAN TELL YOU THAT! only you can pick and choose what parts align with your budget.

browse parts at www.heeltoeauto.com
and https://excelerateperformance.com/store
Respect. Thank you
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Budget is not a really a concern
If budget really isn't a concern then your best bet is to follow the advice of the folks who've commented already, sell your car and buy something else. If you want to ignore the advice of folks who've learned the hard way and know very well what they're talking about, then good luck; you'll get wiser sooner or later. Or not.
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If budget really isn't a concern then your best bet is to follow the advice of the folks who've commented already, sell your car and buy something else. If you want to ignore the advice of folks who've learned the hard way and know very well what they're talking about, then good luck; you'll get wiser sooner or later. Or not.
All i asked is what I can do for my car specifically whether its gonna be an extra 5hp or an extra 200... If I wanted to buy a car fast from factory, I wouldve done that from the start and just bought a 370 or a wrx.
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Boost boost boost!!! Or spray. Either of those will get you lots of power as long as you have the money to tune, rebuild, and replace. There are plenty of threads that discuss various builds over the years with lots of tips, gripes, and sad stories in the Performance section.
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Boost boost boost!!! Or spray. Either of those will get you lots of power as long as you have the money to tune, rebuild, and replace. There are plenty of threads that discuss various builds over the years with lots of tips, gripes, and sad stories in the Performance section.
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All i asked is what I can do for my car specifically whether its gonna be an extra 5hp or an extra 200... If I wanted to buy a car fast from factory, I wouldve done that from the start and just bought a 370 or a wrx.
you are contradicting yourself. You just said you won't sell the TL because you put 3-4K into it, cosmetically, but then turn around and say when it comes to modding, the sky is the limit. Well if the sky is the limit, why are you sticking to the TL?

If we all received a dollar for every young guy that comes into AZ and said "my budget is unlimited" when it comes to modding, we'd each have 498 dollars. Yet out of those 498 guys, maybe 2 of them could actually say that.

I don't mean to bust your balls, but, this question has been asked a million times. All you had to do is search around AZ for 7 minutes. This is playing out like the 496 guys that all came before you and said the same

also... the 5at transmission is shit. I don't remember if it is 3rd gear, or 4th, but once you hit one of them, your car will only crawl forward. It is a tall gear made more for cruising than accelerating. There is no way around it, unless you go 6MT.

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Jesus Christ, this forum shits on anyone modding an AT car. On my fully bolted my AT Type-S, fastest quarter mile time I was able to pull off was high 13s. So yeah it really isnt a good platform, but Google EndlessRPM because they have almost anything you could want for your car.
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New TL member: Hey I am looking to get more power out of my TL
Acurazine Forum Members: Buy another car or go boost.
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Jesus Christ, this forum shits on anyone modding an AT car. On my fully bolted my AT Type-S, fastest quarter mile time I was able to pull off was high 13s. So yeah it really isnt a good platform, but Google EndlessRPM because they have almost anything you could want for your car.
You just literally said the same thing we all are saying in here

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Is there something wrong with this logic? The TLs strengths lie in its good looks. Spend money on cosmetics, not power... Because there isn't a ton of power to be had. Even if OP could hypothetically get 270whp out of a base 5at TL (not happening), he's still not going to be fast compared to a shit ton of other cars out there. What's the point on dropping several thousands on power mods, when a large number of generic cars will smoke you with zero mods? Might as well just get that generic car, if speed is what you want.

Stick to the strengths of the TL... Which are its looks! Improve the stereo, etc. Get an exhaust for sound, not the 6hp boost. Etc.
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Is there something wrong with this logic? The TLs strengths lie in its good looks. Spend money on cosmetics, not power... Because there isn't a ton of power to be had. Even if OP could hypothetically get 270whp out of a base 5at TL (not happening), he's still not going to be fast compared to a shit ton of other cars out there. What's the point on dropping several thousands on power mods, when a large number of generic cars will smoke you with zero mods? Might as well just get that generic car, if speed is what you want.

Stick to the strengths of the TL... Which are its looks! Improve the stereo, etc. Get an exhaust for sound, not the 6hp boost. Etc.
Yes, there will always be a faster car. You are getting lost in the dyno plot sauce and how fast a car runs a 1/4 mile. Even if you start modifying generic cars that are marginally faster you end up spending thousands of dollars to be marginally faster then the next faster car. It's a vicious cycle. The TL has the right amount of Honda soul that makes it fun to drive and easy to live with.

I say build a J36 with a tune and you will be surprised how quick a TL can be, yes it's not as fast as a Hellcat, but it doesn't cost as much either.
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You have good mods. At or Mt you’ll still make power with Good Tuner



Originally Posted by royalte99 View Post
Hey Guys I have a UA6 08 Base Tl, I came here to ask and see what you guys think I can do or get to gain the most possible power since I know many of you guys on these forums know a lot more then me!
So far I have the following mods performance wise
-XLR8 Resonated Quad tip Catback Exhaust
-XLR8 V3 J-pipe
-AEM V2 CAI

All replies and ideas are appreciated!

My instagram btw is Capo_Tony
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I understand there is always a faster car, but these 3G TL look so damn cool! So far I did the 3.7L intake manifold and throttle body, high flow pre-cats(HFPC), j pipe long version that deletes third cat. So far I like the improvement in power. Next I’m going to do a custom 4” intake, full exhaust and underdrive pulley.
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Funmonkey's got it.

HFPC's or PCD's - RV6
Lightweight Crank pulley - XLR8
Lighten up the car - search "site:acurazine.com tl diet". There are a number of things you can do to drop 100lbs. relatively easily. Lightweight battery, removal of spare tire, removal of all the plastic in the engine bay, etc.
And of course, maintain the car really well - DW1 drain/refill of the transmission frequently, good synthetic oil, etc.
TIRES! - Good quality tires are key. Continental DWS06's are popular. Michelin Super Sports are popular (but somewhat expensive) for the summer, there's a variety of others. NEVER cheap out on tires. I learned this the hard way.
Coilovers for handling if you aren't happy with your current suspension - a variety of vendors
3.7L IM and TB from the ZDX or TL-SHAWD.
ECU tuning as justn has said. I'm not experienced with this. It was less supported when I had my 3G. But according to him, and a few others, it results in some pretty good gains.

But as others have said, the "value" is pretty terrible. I've found that you'll spend on average, about $100 per 1hp. I've probably spent $4000 on my 4G and I'm hoping I've gained 40hp. I'll find out once my etune is finished and I go in for a dyno. You'll get much more power for the dollar with other platforms. But like you, I like my car a lot and have the funds so I figured what the hell.

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Originally Posted by losiglow View Post
Funmonkey's got it.

HFPC's or PCD's - RV6
Lightweight Crank pulley - XLR8
Lighten up the car - search "site:acurazine.com tl diet". There are a number of things you can do to drop 100lbs. relatively easily. Lightweight battery, removal of spare tire, removal of all the plastic in the engine bay, etc.
And of course, maintain the car really well - DW1 drain/refill of the transmission frequently, good synthetic oil, etc.
TIRES! - Good quality tires are key. Continental DWS06's are popular. Michelin Super Sports are popular (but somewhat expensive) for the summer, there's a variety of others. NEVER cheap out on tires. I learned this the hard way.
Coilovers for handling if you aren't happy with your current suspension - a variety of vendors
3.7L IM and TB from the ZDX or TL-SHAWD.
ECU tuning as justn has said. I'm not experienced with this. It was less supported when I had my 3G. But according to him, and a few others, it results in some pretty good gains.

But as others have said, the "value" is pretty terrible. I've found that you'll spend on average, about $100 per 1hp. I've probably spent $4000 on my 4G and I'm hoping I've gained 40hp. I'll find out once my etune is finished and I go in for a dyno. You'll get much more power for the dollar with other platforms. But like you, I like my car a lot and have the funds so I figured what the hell.
appreciate your reply bro!!
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