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Old May 12, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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TL-S...break pad question

I'm driving a 08 TL-S....right now i just hit 11K miles...

when i brought in my car for inspection, the dealer told me my front break pad is super thin...and they would require $500 to fix.

my questions are:

1) is it normal for the TL-S break pad to get super thin at 11K miles only?
2) is $500 too expensive, should i fix it thru them?
3) i'm thinking of buying the pads on my own and bring to local shop to fix. if so, anyone knows where and what model i should get?

thx a bunch....i need some info!
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Old May 12, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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u can buy the pads for 150 and do them yourself its a very very very very easy install and shouldnt take you more than an hour tops
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Old May 12, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Yes it is normal, buy them yourself and swap them, is very easy.
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Old May 12, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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get some that doesnt have as much brake dust as the stock ones..i hate brake dust
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Old May 12, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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can anyone direct me to a site to buy?
thx a lot!
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Old May 12, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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http://www.heeltoeauto.com/Heeltoe-B...-pr-40007.html

http://store.excelerateperformance.c...s/c-10044.aspx
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Old May 12, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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thx!

but it sux if i need to change pads for every 10K miles~
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Old May 12, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by zyx0987
thx!

but it sux if i need to change pads for every 10K miles~
aftermarket pads may last a bit longer...i think others have had a longer life with RacingBrake pads for example. no Brembos for me so no clue...
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Old May 12, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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My original pads lasted me around 48K miles

I got new pads and new drilled rotors for $220 shipped and installed them myself so yes $500 for pads is ridiculous and they should last way longer than 11K miles
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Old May 12, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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My current pads have been on for 40k miles. BRAKE pads that get worn out in 10k miles means you don't know how to drive, and drive recklessly.
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Old May 12, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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$69, Duralast CMAX Golds. Excellent pads. Love mine, and they are quiet, no dust and should last a lot longer.

My stock pads had 36k on them, and very little life left.
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Old May 12, 2010 | 04:47 PM
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my stock pads lasted about 18k miles. Then i bought some cheapy werner pads from advanced auto... According to Rodney they lasted about 3 weeks and they were terrible. get what u pay for i assume
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Old May 12, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Xiomaro
my stock pads lasted about 18k miles. Then i bought some cheapy werner pads from advanced auto... According to Rodney they lasted about 3 weeks and they were terrible. get what u pay for i assume
Not all the time as the $69 ones I got were highly recommended here. Pleased I did.
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Old May 12, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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I am not sure how anyones pads wear out so fast unless you have rotors that are worn and groved??

the pads im running now stop decent maybe a lil harder than stock but they creat very little brake dust at all as where the stock brembos made so much dust worth the trade off
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Old May 12, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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My current pads have been on for 40k miles. BRAKE pads that get worn out in 10k miles means you don't know how to drive, and drive recklessly.
Auto or manual? My 5at brakes were less than halfway worn down at 90,000 when I pulled them to install the BBK.

10K seems early even for the manual.

Aftermarket pads will cure the problem. Search around for a more aggresive pad. Most track pads will last forever but may be harder on the rotors. I highly suggest looking at Cobalt pads if they make them for the 6mt. Very good pads and you can select from their chart from 4 different pads, each one more aggressive than the next. You can choose how much bite and the heat range.
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Old May 13, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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1. No. You should "normally" get around 20k - 25k miles. Maybe more if you're easy on brakes; a bit less if you're hard on 'em.

2. WAY, WAY too much. You can get a full set of after-market slotted rotors (F & R), upgrade pads (F & R) and SS brake lines (F & R) for that price.

3. DIY. The Brembo's are designed for quick, easy pad changes.
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Old May 13, 2010 | 02:24 PM
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thx all...i'll search for it.

and one comment...let say i really dunno how to drive...but it's just impossible to worn out the pads at 10K miles~

the dealer told me after inspection...my front pads are "super thin"
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Old May 13, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
1. No. You should "normally" get around 20k - 25k miles. Maybe more if you're easy on brakes; a bit less if you're hard on 'em.

2. WAY, WAY too much. You can get a full set of after-market slotted rotors (F & R), upgrade pads (F & R) and SS brake lines (F & R) for that price.

3. DIY. The Brembo's are designed for quick, easy pad changes.
So 20k on pads isn't that bad? And when should it be for rotors?
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Old May 13, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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So 20k on pads isn't that bad? And when should it be for rotors?
Thats for the 6mt and tl-s brembos. I believe you have the 5at, right? You should get at least 100,000 miles out of them judging by how mine were less than half worn when I upgraded at 90K.
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Old May 13, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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yea, thats insane- changing at the 11k mark, I am at 32k and looking at changing them at the 35 mark- and from what I have read on this site, the reviews, I will be going with the CMAX Gold- brake dust FTL.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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mine is 5auto.

hmmm, if it truly doesnt sense at 11K...i should get it inspected again...and making sure nth is wrong w/ the car itself
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Old May 14, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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I got 27k on my first set of stock Brembos. You can definitely change the pads out yourself, but you can't resurface the rotors yourself.

Go somewhere that resurfaces the rotors while their mounted on the car. That's the best way to do them.

Don't listen to people that say you don't need to resurface the rotors, either. New pads need a even surface to bed them on. For best performance and longevity, new pads should be used on new/resurfaced rotors.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by princelybug
I got 27k on my first set of stock Brembos. You can definitely change the pads out yourself, but you can't resurface the rotors yourself.

Go somewhere that resurfaces the rotors while their mounted on the car. That's the best way to do them.

Don't listen to people that say you don't need to resurface the rotors, either. New pads need a even surface to bed them on. For best performance and longevity, new pads should be used on new/resurfaced rotors.
Sorry but that is not true. If the rotors are smooth and do not vibrate, then you can just replace the pads and be fine.

The only time rotors need to be resurfaced if they have heavy groves, or vibrate.

And to the OP, it's BRAKE not break.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
Sorry but that is not true. If the rotors are smooth and do not vibrate, then you can just replace the pads and be fine.

The only time rotors need to be resurfaced if they have heavy groves, or vibrate.

And to the OP, it's BRAKE not break.
You're going to get grooves no matter what. New brake pads SHOULD BE used with resurfaced rotors.

Like I said, you "CAN" go without rotating them, but it's not advised.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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You would think that would be a concern for people who race like I use too just slapping on different sets of pads on the same rotors for racing then back to street pads...and they require a lot more abuse. Again, what I said stands.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
You would think that would be a concern for people who race like I use too just slapping on different sets of pads on the same rotors for racing then back to street pads...and they require a lot more abuse. Again, what I said stands.
If you read what I posted, I said that this is the RIGHT way to do things. You SHOULD resurface your rotors. You don't HAVE to, but you SHOULD. By not doing so, you're not going to get the life out of the pads that you can be.

Being a racer doesn't mean you know everything.

I chase cones and road race regularly, in my UA7, as well.

Rotors will get grooves in them. Maybe not deep ones, but grooves nonetheless. Resurfacing them will allow new brake pads to bed in properly, with the maximum amount of surface area possible being in contact with each other. This will improve performance, as more pad surface is being utilized to actually stop the car. It'll also give more longevity to the brake pad, because of the even wear it'll get, as opposed to using a new pad on a non-rotated rotor. Grooves prevent even that small portion of the brake pad to be utilized.

It's simple.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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The dealership in San Antonio sells the Brembos for $230. I did a search on ebay yesterday and found them a lot cheaper. So you may be better off buying them yourself to save some money. Here's one of the sellers on ebay that sells them for cheap.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...T#ht_500wt_956
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Old May 14, 2010 | 05:28 PM
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Just ask our vendor, Tim. You'll get a better price than that, most likely.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bhavin3623
get some that doesnt have as much brake dust as the stock ones..i hate brake dust

Agreed x 10! I hate and can't believe the amount of brake dust the stock pads create. I just bought my TL-S a few weeks ago and the dealership replaced the pads as part of the "certified process". I already can't wait to replace/upgrade.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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Duralast CMAX Gold Brake Pads FTW from Autozone. OEM brake pads blow.
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Old May 21, 2010 | 01:00 AM
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BRAKE pads
LOL! I'm glad somebody else noticed it. Now back to eating my peanut butter sandwitch.
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Old May 21, 2010 | 01:19 AM
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My 08 TL-S front brake pads last 32000km before i changed them. I also agree that you should machine rotors with every brake pad change. BMW and Mercedes suggest you change rotors every time you change pads.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 12:08 PM
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I have an 06 tl in Toronto. Do the American and canadian Acura brake parts differ?
Will the Brembo pads on E-Bay go on a stock TL?
Thanks
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Old May 22, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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I don't like machining rotors. It just removes material and makes them more prone to warping and fading under hard use.

Assuming they look ok, it's not necessary to replace them everytime. Break-in may take just a little longer but it beats paying for new rotors everytime.

There's nothing wrong with hitting them with some sandpaper but machining them should be a last resort. IMO it's much worse than doing nothing at all.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 09:56 AM
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I had the stock brembos on my 08 tl s also. I decided not to get another set of brembos, but instead got the EBC 2000 series, they occasionally make some noise but have great stopping power. They have lasted 15K and counting no problems yet. They are a lot cheaper then the brembos and to be honest i cant really tell a difference in stopping power. Only bad thing to these brakes is the amount of dust they make.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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I have 78K on my 06 MT TL's stock Brembo's, getting low but probably have another 10K left in them.
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Old May 29, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bhavin3623
get some that doesnt have as much brake dust as the stock ones..i hate brake dust
brake dust is good.....if you have a pad that doesnt make much dust...it means your rotors are getting wore away
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